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Author: Subject: Speaking of Miles Davis...Any guesses on the possible Beacon tune?

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:09 PM
In case you missed it... ...here is a quote from Butch from the recent Jambands.com interview about possibly playing a Miles Davis song this coming Beacon run. Just wanted to see what all of your guesses are as to what song he might be referring to. Based on Butch's description of the song in question, my guess is "In a Silent WaY" which I LOVE by the way - GREAT album from Miles . Any other thoughts from you guys as to what it might be. I love the Jazzy direction the band has been going in lately so I am pretty excited about this possibility...



Anyway, here is the basic quote from Butch...

MG: Do you have any new covers in the works for this year?

Butch Trucks:
Now, I have an idea for this year and it is way out there. Weíve been really liking playing this progressive jazz stuff lately. We are and getting back to the Blues and Jazz which is what we were all about. When we started the band it was that combination of blues-based jazz improvisation that made us original and Iím quite proud of it and Iím very glad to be getting back to it. Iíve got an idea for a Miles Davis song this year. Iím hoping that I can get everyone to go along with it. My idea is this: we normally come out and we start the first song of the first night with something really bombastic, but I thought it would be a really cool idea to come out with something incredibly mellow. This track doesnít even have any drums on it in the beginning, just nothing but guitars. Itís real smooth and real mellow to start it off---set everything up and get everything really smooth and then kick in with the next song and I think itíd be much more powerful. But, weíll see, itís just an idea.

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:12 PM
SO WHAT

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:14 PM
Round Midnight or So What

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:20 PM
Nice guess Linnie...and I'll take it. By the way Jaimoe has stated that he uses a similar drum pattern in "Dreams" as Jimmy Cobb used in "All Blues" from the "Kind Of Blue" album, so that tune also is possible.

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:21 PM
gotta get Ron Holloway on this one....

http://www.johncoltrane.com/automat/swf/main.htm

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:24 PM
Good topic Eddie. I'd be in hog heaven if i got an all-jazz set from the ABB.....damn....thats a good idea for a compilation disk if it hasnt been done already.....


 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:26 PM
My guess would be All Blues too, but that is mostly from wishful thinking. Actually, anything off of Kind of Blue would be great, BUT, if they really wanted to "steal your face", they could do one of the jams from Bitches Brew!!!! Now that would be AWESOME!!!! And original, not many people could cover a song like that.


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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:27 PM
I also loved the following answers Butch gave to these questions...

...especially when he mentioned he was moved to tears following an amazing "Mountain Jam" to open the show.
Gotta Love Butch opening up about that VERY special emotional moment and sharing it with us.


MG: One of the most surprisingly guests to emerge at the Beacon last year was Roy Haynes. Can you talk about that collaboration?

Butch Trucks:
He had a F***k ing ball. He had never been to a rock show in his life. He was expecting three-chords and he was sitting there, listening to us play, and he said, ďGod damn, these guys can play,Ē and then he started getting nervous, and then he came out and I just got up off my drums, and said, ďitís all yours.Ē I wasnít about to try to play with Roy. Ainít no way I could keep up with him! I just got off and we just told him to start playing. So, he just played for a while and then we started that ďAfro BlueĒ song and it just blew the place apart and he had a ball. And, I guarantee that heíll be back this year. What I love about the Beacon is that probably every single night itís gonna be someone else.


MG- How did last yearís Beacon run compare with your previous residencies?

Butch Trucks:
Iíll also say that I have never been through an experience like last year. You play a group of shows and, normally, out of 10 or 12 shows maybe 3 or 4 click and just really hit the note---everybody is right there. And the rest of them are good, and you canít just really nail it. Last year we had 15 in a row, Iím talking every single one of them. For instance, one night we started with ďMountain Jam.Ē It was in such a powerful pocket that I was just playing my body was just doing it and I wasnít thinking at all. And it was just right in the pocket. We finished a song, and I cut off the timpani and I just broke down and started crying, it was so powerful. And, I sat down my drum, with tears running down my cheeks, and I looked up at Marc and said, ďNow what the F***K do we do?Ē It was the first song of the night. And he said, ďI guess we go home.Ē And it was like that all 15 shows. Every single night was just, just hitting the note. Iíve never ever had a musical experience like that in my life.




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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:55 PM
After reading BUtch's amazing story about crying at the end of the 25-minute set opener version of Mt Jam on 3/25, I went back and listened to it last night after getting kicked off the Web site. LOL.

And it really IS all that ...

and a bag o' chips!



It's amazing.

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 04:56 PM

Our guesses so far....

In A Silent Way
So What
Round Midnight
All Blues

any others?


 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 05:07 PM
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After reading Butch's amazing story about crying at the end of the 25-minute set opener version of Mt Jam on 3/25, I went back and listened to it last night after getting kicked off the Web site. LOL.

And it really IS all that ...

and a bag o' chips!

It's amazing.

The Mountain Jam from 3/18/06 wasn't to shabby either PeteMan...I think I might cried after that one and all I didn't even play on it - listening was good enough . It really was THAT good!

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 05:27 PM
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After reading Butch's amazing story about crying at the end of the 25-minute set opener version of Mt Jam on 3/25, I went back and listened to it last night after getting kicked off the Web site. LOL.

And it really IS all that ...

and a bag o' chips!

It's amazing.

The Mountain Jam from 3/18/06 wasn't to shabby either PeteMan...I think I might cried after that one and all I didn't even play on it - listening was good enough . It really was THAT good!




That 3/18 show is the best show I've seen by any band.

For the Miles tune:
Since Warren has mentioned his fondness for the Miles Davis Quintet with Shorter,Hancock,Williams and Carter, I'll make a guess of "Circle"

It is mellow and starts with the drums laid back.

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 05:38 PM
I dont think it can be So what since Butch said that it had a long intro with two guitars.. I still think its one of the two songs from In A Silent Way album. Bitches Brew would be nice too but i dont think it fits with this band since the keys have a huge role and Gregg doesnt improvise that much ..

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 06:07 PM
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I dont think it can be "So What since Butch said that it had a long intro with two guitars... I still think its one of the two songs from In A Silent Way album.


Very true. THere are no guitars in "So What". I am sicking with "In a Silent Way" which was my first guess right off the bat...

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 09:21 PM
Although any extended improv by the Brothers of some Miles material will be the cherries, Call It Anything I think would be soo slammin'...

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 10:45 PM
All Blues was the first tune that I thought of when I read Butch's comment and hadn't read the rest of the thread...

 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 11:41 PM
In a Silent Way was composed by Joe Zawinul. Circle would be nice...but Herbie has some big shoes on that one. I think the Bros. would be best suited to post second quintet Miles material. I think they could pull off the dense ensemble sounds of Bitches Brew and the elastic instrumentations of that album and the Jack Johnson stuff.
 

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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 11:51 PM
Like I said earlier, Round Midnight can be done. I can see Derek doing the intro

Butch said "but I thought it would be a really cool idea to come out with something incredibly mellow. This track doesnít even have any drums on it in the beginning, just nothing but guitars. Itís real smooth and real mellow to start it off---set everything up and get everything really smooth"

Take a listen!




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  posted on 2/23/2007 at 11:59 PM
I also think it will be So What.

It's modal, has a mellow beginning like Butch described. It seems to fit the ABB better than Round Midnight. Although, Round Midnight would be VERY cool!

 

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  posted on 2/24/2007 at 05:44 AM
Round Midnight would be fantastic if they could figure out a solid arrangement for it. Its a very intricate tune with a lot of chord changes... a genius composition by master composer, Thelonious Monk. I feel like Derek and Warren have the sensitivity to play it well. The three drummers could be a hinderance, however, to the ballad setting in which the tune is traditionally cast.

I wouldn't mind hear them play a prett simple blowing tune like "Cheesecake" by Dexter Gordon which Derek has done with his band. I think they could really flex their improvisational muscles on a tune like that. I know that Warren has played "Milestones" with the Phil Lesh Band. That is a very catchy tune with a simple modal structure with lots of room for creative soloing and expression. "Seven Steps to Heaven" also comes to mind with regard to great blowing tunes that Miles composed.

 

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  posted on 2/24/2007 at 10:32 AM
A great Miles song that they would actually be able to do pretty easily would be "Right Off" from the "Jack Johnson Sessions" album. THis is obviously not the one Butch was referring to since "Right Off" does not have a smoothe, mellow beginning. In fact it's pretty Rockin' with John McGLaughlin hitting some power chords right from the start. It is very modal though - in the key of E- and The Brothers would just NAIL it! GRegg could easily handle the keyboard parts too...

 

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  posted on 2/24/2007 at 10:51 AM
.......given how great the band is playing,i'll be happy with any Miles tune

 

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  posted on 2/24/2007 at 11:07 AM
this is a great thread.

the influence of Miles on the band over the years is so evident and the respect from all band members is so high for Miles Davis.

as far as what tune???......I am kinda clueless about what to think it might be really.

the kind of blue songs All Blues & So What I do not think will be the one played.

either would be tremendous............Trane Tracks had good thoughts and the idea of them playing "Right Off" from the Jack Johnson album is right on the money - it would be tres intense and it has some serious guitar tracks right off! Ha.

they will not play it but - here is a new one to consider perhaps > the Milestones LP has a track named "Miles"............wow = check it out.

right now I am playing in a trio and we are doing All Blues, So What and this tune called Miles.........it plays on the 4........and it jumps right out atcha from the get go - bee-bop nearly.

if I had to pick the one I really want - All Blues.

 

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  posted on 2/24/2007 at 06:40 PM
So What???...No, I mean "So What"...Miles and Coltrane, right here doing it cool - just doesn't get any better.
Grab your self a brew or a glass of wine and maybe a little hit or two and watch this video clip...just makes you say Ahhhhhhhhhh!
I could totally see The Brothers doing a bit of this or some other Miles at The Beacon like Butch said...hope it really happens.

You know, call me a little crazy - wouldn't be the first time - but when I hear Derek and Warren going back and forth on a tune like "Desdemona", "Illness" or "Dreams" its amost like modern day Miles/Trane duo, but on guitars with amps instead of horns. Call it HEAVY Jazz...or Growth Hormone Jazz. but our guys play it as well as anyone ...anyway, I love Jazz and I just really dig Derek and Warren together! ...and Butch and Jaimoe keeping that fine beat like great Jazz drummers do...beautiful.

Enjoy the clip....



Miles and Trane - "So What"








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  posted on 2/24/2007 at 07:04 PM
EddieP--thanks for posting---great to hear that again---it's been a few months!!

 

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