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  posted on 2/21/2007 at 12:05 AM
I've read variety of threads about beginning guitar and I've posted also. I've been playing for 6 months now I guess...since September. In college I don't have a lot of time or money to get lessons, but there is a music shop in town where I could get them. I feel as though I've made and am making sufficient progress, but that a professional may help me a good bit. How many people here have taken professional lessons? If so do you think it would significantly help over online tutorials some books about blues guitar and playing along with recordings? Thanks

 

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  posted on 2/21/2007 at 12:54 AM
I taught myselft guitar, but I had already had 10 years of piano. (and took two more)

Started with a piano teacher that taught theory, writing, ear training as well as traditional lessons.

A teacher like that is invaluable.

ALso trombone and voice (choir) training didn't hurt.

My guitar teachers were David Gilmour and Jimmy Page. (records, music books)

I am glad I can read music and understand theory, though many get by without this.

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  posted on 2/21/2007 at 08:08 AM
I've pretty much taught myself (nobody's fault but mine!), but I've certainly picked a lot of brains here and there. If you're a picker, and I get 5 minutes of your time - you KNOW what kind of stuff we'll be discussing!

 

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  posted on 2/21/2007 at 10:04 AM
I have been blessed to have very talented and sharing friends. Over half of what I know has been shown to me. I hope to never forget that and continue the circle of knowledge.

 

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  posted on 2/21/2007 at 10:59 AM
Plenty of free lessons right here man. Don't "fret" over asking any questions either. Look through this section of the forum & you may find plenty of things to keep you busy for quite a while.

As for self-taught, I have had a mix of both- I took beginners guitar in high school & pretty much knew everything they covered which really pissed off the teacher. My friends taught me a bunch of stuff & I picked up very quickly the ability to learn by watching them play & asking the right questions. At a certain point things begin to make sense on their own & you will be on your way!

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  posted on 2/21/2007 at 12:32 PM
Pretty much self taught since I hit 12 years old, or like Brother Kunio told me " Duane Allman and Dickey Betts taught me how to play the guitar. "

 

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  posted on 2/21/2007 at 02:50 PM
Haisija wrote:
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Pretty much self taught since I hit 12 years old, or like Brother Kunio told me " Duane Allman and Dickey Betts taught me how to play the guitar. "




Haisija:

I didn't recognize you in the class photo from guitar school when we were teenagers. Is that you with the pony tail and press-on nails in the 2nd row?

I am the short dorky looking kid with the cheap black straw cowboy hat sitting cross-legged on the floor with the 16 RPM phonograph and worn out Live at the Fillmore East(s).

Was Kunio the asian kid that always sat at the front of the class and never came out on the weekends?

Man oh Man, we had the same teachers in the same school, and didn't even know it.

I also attended the Keef and Mick Taylor summer camp in 1973 and you'll recognize me in the same pose in the camp picture except instead of LAFE on the record player, it's Get Yer Yah Yah's Out.



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  posted on 2/21/2007 at 03:15 PM
i've been playing for four years. totally self taught...although i took a year of theory at college. one important thing i've learned is to learn to play EVERYTHING you can hear...jingles on TV, licks from ABB stuff, sax lines, anything. learn as much as you can, then toss it. when you're playing, you can bring stuff out that you forgot you had.
 

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  posted on 2/21/2007 at 03:16 PM
For the most part I tought myself. Now I take lessons once a week. I taught myself how to read tab and most of the open chords. I also went and learned all of my favorite riffs/licks.

 

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  posted on 2/24/2007 at 10:28 PM
greetings:

I taught myself drums with a turntable and a neighboorhood full of guitar and bass players No formal lessons... lots of watching other players and lots of hours just figuring stuff out.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2007 at 06:52 AM
Hey,
I'm new to the forum, so hello everyone. I've been a fan of the allman family for over ten years. luckily i was introduced to the band by my HS girlfriend's dad. i was hooked right away, so it was just a matter of time before i got a guitar(an acoustic fender that came in a box, with other starter stuff) after hearing Liz Reed acoustic on the IRSA cd i knew i wanted to play the allmans style on an acoustic. I didn't take any lessons in person but i did get the vhs of warren haynes hot licks electric blues and slide.(eventhough i had an acoustic i still learned those licks and solos, but i soon got an electric). It took me a bit of time but once i finished that one i got the second hot licks video by warren,acoustic slide and the art of electric improvisation. Once you learn these video from the guitar master you should be ready to take on anything. The guide to slide guitar which came out later is also great. Besides a great instructional videos these videos are a must for anyone who wants to sit back and watch a bluesmaster at work. I know thy reissued the dvd of the first hot licks vhs and it has slow motion and regular time of all the exercises (this would be better for a beginner)

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  posted on 2/25/2007 at 11:47 AM
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I'm new to the forum, so hello everyone. I've been a fan of the allman family for over ten years. luckily i was introduced to the band by my HS girlfriend's dad. i was hooked right away, so it was just a matter of time before i got a guitar(an acoustic fender that came in a box, with other starter stuff) after hearing Liz Reed acoustic on the IRSA cd i knew i wanted to play the allmans style on an acoustic. I didn't take any lessons in person but i did get the vhs of warren haynes hot licks electric blues and slide.(eventhough i had an acoustic i still learned those licks and solos, but i soon got an electric). It took me a bit of time but once i finished that one i got the second hot licks video by warren,acoustic slide and the art of electric improvisation. Once you learn these video from the guitar master you should be ready to take on anything. The guide to slide guitar which came out later is also great. Besides a great instructional videos these videos are a must for anyone who wants to sit back and watch a bluesmaster at work. I know thy reissued the dvd of the first hot licks vhs and it has slow motion and regular time of all the exercises (this would be better for a beginner)

Remember to have fun and keep playing.




Learned a lot of slide from the Haynes videos. Both are great.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2007 at 05:15 PM
Me = totally self taught. Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
 

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  posted on 2/26/2007 at 09:48 PM
I have done both, and there are advantages and disavdantages. I didn't start to play guitar until I was about 21, but I have always listened to good music and considered myself to have a good ear. In some ways, I think lessons & studying music got in the way of using my natural aptitude for music. I have a tendency to over-think things, and it took me awhile to trust my ear. The year before I strated playing guitar, I taught myself some blues harp by ear, and that was working well for me. I sort of abandoned that method when I started playing guitar.

On the other hand, lessons & studying theory has been extremely helpful in developing technique and in recognizing scales, etc, once I opened myself up to listening again & not just intellectualizing music.

As a guitar player, one of my most helpful teachers was a saxaphone player. Taking lessons with him forced me to listen instead of watching his hand positions, etc., like I would with another guitar player.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 04:49 AM
I'm basically self taught although i did take theory lessons from a piano teacher wich helped me heaps.Working songs and licks out from listening to records/cds will certainly be the best training for your ear and feel. You sound like your happy with your progress so far, give it a few more months and see where your at then, if you find yourself a bit stagnant or frustrated then check out some local teachers and tell them what you want and see if they can map out a learning path that will suit your needs & pocket.Books are good too, there are some great books out there,DVD,s are also a good teacher,and theres heaps of TABS on the net although sometimes there not always right.Chadwick just learn your major & minor chords & scales in all keys and jam away with the ABB recordings and plenty of Blues music and enjoy yourself and in time the rest will follow.Happy Picking.
 

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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 03:17 PM
I taught myself to play bass, then switched to guitar.

I took lessons for about a month before I realized I could listen to the damn CD myself and learn the songs!!!

As far a theory, I don't know crap though

 

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  posted on 2/27/2007 at 10:05 PM
I learned my self and I am still young. My dad showed me a couple of licks and we jam all night long now.

 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 04:04 PM
I feel like in the rock guitar community there is a certain stigma about studying music, or taking lessons. I feel like learning from someone who has dedicated themselves to the pursuit of mastering their instrument is extremely beneficial and should not be viewed as a cop out. There are many great players out there, learn from them. Even if it you don't have the time or money to take lessons in a formal capactiy, hook up with people and jam. Listen to what they play and talk to them about their perspectives and insights into making music. I know that I would not be close to where I am as a player without the help and guidance of several teachers and mentors.
 

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  posted on 3/1/2007 at 04:12 PM
Some of the greatest players in the world have confessed to not only never having taken lessons, but being unable to read music or even identify the notes and chords that they play. Music lessons are a wonderful thing and they can help you understand the theory behind music. But "feel playing" (by ear, by gut -whatever) can produce some of the most soulful sounds that you'll ever hear. When you hear these notes, you can feel the joy or misery that's in the heart of the person playing.

Years ago, a couple of violinists from the Alabama Symphony Orchestra use to show up whenever my friend B.A.'s band was playing. These guys were world-class, trained musicians - and they couldn't understand how anybody could get up and play 20 - 50 tunes without sheet music in front of them.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 08:39 AM
Self taught on guitar and mandolin. Taught myself to read music too, which I absolutely suck at.
I rely on my ears.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 09:13 AM
There are also two types of teachers (guitarists). One, who is basically a self taught play-by-ear guitarist who can run the gamut of being just slightly better than you to a barroom star. Two, a schooled musician who can read, knows theory, has proper technique, can play in time and able to play a variety of styles. Someone who could play in a host of different situations requiring said skills. There are obviously more of the former than the latter. But I believe that the there are more of the latter making a living at playing music. Also twos could have started out as ones. And generally regardless of whether one or two anybody who plays well always wants to learn more.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 09:18 AM
i.e. William Hung, self taught singer.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2007 at 02:13 PM
I don't think that ignorance of theory/lack of education diminishes emotional content in playing at all. Listen to John Coltrane, listen to Miles, Herbie, Shorter, Zawinul....Bird? These cats had the love. They also have knowledge. If you think that Warren and Derek are up there on stage guessing...you would be wrong about that as well.
 

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  posted on 3/3/2007 at 11:53 PM
thanks for the input guys. I'm still considering taking lessons. I'm determined to learn how to read music well. Learn the notes on the fretboard and know why the scales are displayed the way they are. I'm working on playing along with everything I can trying to figure out keys really. Playing the pentatonics mostly. I feel as though things might be beter if I have a professional advising me along my way and providing me with goals and things to play at my level. I'm almost surprised how many are self taught because any media that shows up in here of the people that play is always pretty impressive. For now I'm just jamming with my friends, most of whom know a lot of both theory and ear, so its really helpful. All I know is playing is more fun than anything else...

 

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  posted on 4/9/2007 at 12:18 PM
im still taking lessons.
however ive taught myself slide, and retaught myself to play in open E
my teacher is kind of a van halen nut, so i learn more of the hard rock/classic rock style from him and blues and jazz on my own.

 
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