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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 12:48 AM
Ok so as some of you know, I live in LA........ Let me state that I am NOT a scientologist by any means....

How many people have had any sort of interaction with them?

I recently got f**ked over by this a**hole and i'm not too happy about it (it had nothing to do with joining the church). It seems everyone I have ever met that has had contact with a scientologist has never had a happy ending with them. Plus, aren't the celebrities who are scientologists a tad annoying or is it just me?

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 01:03 AM
I can't think of the name of the song by Shooter Jennings but it has a line that goes " and Scientologists make no sense to me"

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 02:45 AM
I remember being in the Navy, meeting some of those people. They tried to get me into Scientology, but I thought it was to much of a "cult thing", so that was the end of that.

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 07:54 AM
Has the spaceship landed and taken them away?
Com'on already

I've walked past there NYC headquarters a number of times when I am in town for a show. Nice BIG building.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 08:33 AM
Tom Cruise is solely responsible for giving Scientologists a bad name. He's a nut....and a publicity whore. One Scientologist I can think of who is pretty low key is John Travolta.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 10:55 AM
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Tom Cruise is solely responsible for giving Scientologists a bad name.
No, I'm gonna have to say L. Ron Hubbard shares much of the blame.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 11:02 AM
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Tom Cruise is solely responsible for giving Scientologists a bad name.
No, I'm gonna have to say L. Ron Hubbard shares much of the blame.


I'd have to say that right about now, ol' L. Ron is thinking, "oops".

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 12:35 PM
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Tom Cruise is solely responsible for giving Scientologists a bad name.
No, I'm gonna have to say L. Ron Hubbard shares much of the blame.


I'd have to say that right about now, ol' L. Ron is thinking, "oops".


I thought he was dead.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 12:42 PM
Better to join the First Church of Appliantology.




Frank Zappa - A Token Of My Extreme Lyrics

Act II



SCENE NINE

A TOKEN OF MY EXTREME



Arriving at L. Ron Hoover's modernistic office / cathedral /
ware-house /condominium complex, Joe is greeted by a pre-recorded message
and a dramatically illuminated image on a wall-sized TV screen...



L. RON HOOVER:

Welcome to the First Church of Appliantology!

The WHITE ZONE is for loading and unloading only!



Don't you be

Tarot-fied

It's just a token of my extreme

Don't you be

Tarot-fied

It's just a token of my extreme

Don't you never try to look behind my eyes

You don t wanna know what they have seen

Don't you never try to look behind my eyes

You don't wanna know what they have seen



JOE: (thinking to himself)

Some people think

That if they go too far

They'll never get hack

To where the rest of them are

I might be crazy

But there's one thing I know

You might be surprised

At what you find when ya go!



And thus, having rationalized his expedition to L. Ron's
modernistic office /cathedral / warehouse / condominium complex, JOE seeks The
Answer to his problem...



JOE:

Oh oh oh

Mystical Advisor

What is my problem, tell me

Can you see?



L. RON HOOVER:

Well, you have nothing to fear, my son!

You are a Latent Appliance Fetishist, It appears to me!



JOE:

That all seems very, very strange

I never craved a toaster

Or a color T. V.



L. RON HOOVER:

A Latent Appliance Fetishist

Is a person who refuses to admit to his or herself

That sexual gratification can only be achieved

Through the use of MACHINES... Get the picture?



JOE:

Are you telling me

I should come out of the closet now Mr. Ron?



L. RON HOOVER:

No, my son!

You must go into THE CLOSET

And you will have

A lot of fun!

That's where they all live

So if you want an

Appliance to love you

You'll have to go in there

N' get you one



JOE:

Well...that seems simple enough...



L. RON HOOVER:

Yes, but if you want a really GOOD one,

You'll have to learn a foreign language...



JOE:

German, for instance?



L. RON HOOVER:

That's right...

A lot of really cute ones come from over there!

(Fifty bucks, please)



And a cheerful group of Appliantologists dance into the room
wearing aluminum foil lab smocks, lock arms in a circle around JOE,
making sure he pays in full, all the while singing with L. RON as he
delivers his final instructions...



L. RON HOOVER:

If you been

Mod-O-fied,

It's an illusion,

an yer in between

Don't you be

Tarot-fied,

It's just a lot of nothin,'

So what can it mean?

If you been

Mod-O-fied,

It's an illusion,

an yer in between

Don't you be

Tarot-fied,

It's just a lot of nothin,

So what can it mean?

(etc., etc., etc.)



JOE leaves the First Church of Appliantology and sets out to try
L. RON s expensive advice



CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER:

This is the CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER... Joe has just learned to
speak

German Now, get this, heres why he did it! He's gonna go to this
club on

the other side of town, it's called THE CLOSET...

And they got these Appliances in there that really go for a guy
dressed up like a housewife who can speak German (you know what I mean)...
so Joe's learned how to speak German, he goes in this place and he
sees these little Kitchen Machineries dancing around with each other,
and he sees this one...that looks like it's a cross between an
industrial vacuum cleaner and a chrome piggy bank with marital aids stuck all over
its body...

it's really exciting...and when he sees it, he BURSTS INTO
SONG...

[Edited on 1/30/2007 by PhotoRon286]

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 01:06 PM
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Tom Cruise is solely responsible for giving Scientologists a bad name.
No, I'm gonna have to say L. Ron Hubbard shares much of the blame.


I'd have to say that right about now, ol' Photo Ron is thinking, "oops".


I thought he was dead.


apparently, you're still amongst the living.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 01:32 PM
My CEO is a scientologist, Sky Dayton, creator of EarthLink and CEO of HELIO. Met him a few times but did not talk about anything regarding that.
 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 01:44 PM
SCAMMERS.

And I'm sorry, but total idjits too... yeah, here comes the space ship... please...

Ron, you got your old handle back! Yeah, Zappa's take on it is GREAT!

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 01:50 PM
i don't know enough about it to make any real opinion on the subject, but thanks to wiki i found this out:
Scientology
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scientology
quote:
Scientology is a body of teachings and related techniques developed by American science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard. It began in 1952 as a self-help philosophy, an outgrowth of his earlier self-help system, Dianetics, and later described itself as a new religion. It claims to offer "an exact methodology" to help humans achieve awareness of their spiritual existence across many lifetimes and, simultaneously, to become more effective in the physical world. The name "Scientology" is also used to refer to the often controversial Church of Scientology, the largest organization promoting the practice of Scientology, which is itself part of a network of affiliated corporations that claim ownership and sole authority to disseminate Dianetics and Scientology.

A stated goal of Scientology is to rehabilitate the thetan (roughly equivalent to the soul) to regain its native state of "total freedom." Church spokesmen and practitioners claim that Hubbard's teachings (called "Technology" or "Tech" in Scientology terminology) have saved them from a plethora of problems and enabled them to better realize their highest potential in business and in their personal lives.[1][2] However, outside observers—including journalists, lawmakers, and national governing bodies of several countries—have alleged that the Church is an unscrupulous commercial enterprise that harasses its critics and brutally exploits its members.[3][4]

Although believers are usually free to practice, the organized church has often encountered opposition. While a number of governments now view the Church as a religious organization entitled to the protections and tax relief that such status brings, others view it as a pseudoreligion, a cult, or a transnational corporation.[5][6][7][8]




i dunno, what is next, Stephen King starts a new religion?

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 01:51 PM
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Lobbying search engines such as Google and Yahoo to omit any webpages that are critical of Scientology from their search engines (and in Google's case, AdSense), or at least the first few search pages (now however, a search for Scientology on Google and Yahoo brings up the Wikipedia page, with both critical and official Scientology websites).

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 01:55 PM
WEIRDO SNAKE OIL SALESMEN, CHARLATANS AND HUCKSTERS IN FANCY SUITS WITH A PURELY INSANE LOAD OF GARBAGE TO SELL AS SALVATION...



Scientologists definitely do NOT fall in the "respect all religions" category for me. ...

Just in case you weren't sure ...

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 02:47 PM
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SCAMMERS.

And I'm sorry, but total idjits too... yeah, here comes the space ship... please...

Ron, you got your old handle back! Yeah, Zappa's take on it is GREAT!


Persistance pays off.

I figured I'd try again before contacting Rowland.

Went all through the delete cookies, register for password, etc.

Still doesn't work on Dickey's site, but who can tell?

Heh heh.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 03:01 PM
Worked with a girl in Chicago who was involved in Scientology with her boyfriend and they were always trying to get me to go to meetings at their 'worship center' (which I believe she said was in Evanston - this was around '75 or so). Anyway - she was always strongly encouraging me to get involved in Scientology and attend meetings with her but she never would actually discuss with me exactly what Scientology was about, what their belief system consisted of, nothing. It made it seem like some type of wierd, secret club. When I think of L. Ron I always think of Dianetics in addition to Scientology.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 03:11 PM
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Still doesn't work on Dickey's site, but who can tell?


you make that sound like its a bad thing.......

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 03:17 PM
Isn't that the religion about midi-chlorians?

To me, it's not a true space religion until members castrate themselves and have official gym shoes.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 03:21 PM
I have trouble calling groups started by a guy named Ron, or even Joe Smith, anything other than a cult.

But then, I have trouble with lots of things.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 03:26 PM
I always enjoy talking to Scientologists-Dianetics folks because I have them frustrated and speechless within a half hours time. My knowledge of spiritual philosophies combined with a life long love of science fiction gives me an advantage. My problem with Scientology is that it is not a religion, but a philosophy at best. At the heart of it is L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer who once said, "If you want to get rich, start a religion." He wrote Dianetics, started Scientology, and then made himself reclusive to add to the mystery. The roots of Scientology are that we humans are inhabited by the souls of extra-terrestials that came to Earth about 50 million years ago.That's what you pay the big bucks to find out.

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I always enjoy talking to Scientologists-Dianetics folks because I have them frustrated and speechless within a half hours time. DH


And this is different from your communications with the rest of us?

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 03:53 PM
i dunno. any religion, philosophy or doctrine that claims to be for the good of mankind and then expects you to pony up the cash to prove it SUCKS.

if you are poor can you be a scientologist? i'd go ask but i'm scared. there are LOTS of stories online (through google, in contridiction to the post above i quoted for wiki) that claim that the church of scientology is very aggresive in removing naysayers and problem students.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 04:00 PM
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I have trouble calling threads started by a guy named PhotoRon anything other than a cult.

But then, I have trouble with lots of things.


 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 04:17 PM
Content removed. After some reflection, I thought it was in poor taste.

Peace.


[Edited on 1/30/2007 by TopDroog]

 

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