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  posted on 1/29/2007 at 01:45 PM
I've been wondering about this for a little while now. I'm a very large Hendrix fan and am a rabid collector of his live bootlegs and studio sessions and private recordings and was wondering if there are any recordings of him and Duane jamming together.

I was thinking it might be possible at the July 3 - 5, 1970 Atlanta Pop Festival since both bands were there. Anybody have any info. about whether or not they did get together and if they did, is there recordings of it?

 

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  posted on 1/29/2007 at 02:10 PM
Since he was sitting right here when I read this, I asked Johnny if Duane ever mentioned jamming with Hendrix and he said he never heard him meniton anything about it. I'm not saying he never did, Johnny doesn't think so, but he's saying Duane never said anything about it.

 

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  posted on 1/29/2007 at 02:12 PM
thanks for the information!

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 12:30 AM
Hi Carl_Radle,

This topic has come up before. See http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=v iewthread&tid=35964
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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 08:40 AM
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Since he was sitting right here when I read this, I asked Johnny if Duane ever mentioned jamming with Hendrix and he said he never heard him meniton anything about it. I'm not saying he never did, Johnny doesn't think so, but he's saying Duane never said anything about it.


If he never mentioned it, it seems unlikely (but not impossible) that he did. Who would keep quiet about it?

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 09:56 AM
Hendrix and the ABB played the Atlanta Pop didn't they? Also Carl Radle what's up with your handle is your name Carl Radle? Are you kin to him? Or just a fan?

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 12:11 PM
I wondered about this very thing some time back, and found the answer in the book "Crosstown Traffic" (the Jimi Hendrix story). It seems that the ABB opened and closed the Atlanta Pop Festival while Jimi (big rock star that he was) was brought in by his "handlers" and taken out right after his performance.
It said he was aware of Duane & would have liked to jam, but his celebrity was making him more & more isolated...

 

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Hendrix and the ABB played the Atlanta Pop didn't they? Also Carl Radle what's up with your handle is your name Carl Radle? Are you kin to him? Or just a fan?


I hope I did that quote right

That's one of the reasons I wondered if they ever got together. Since they were both there and they both enjoyed jamming wth other musicans I thought maybe they got together. And I'm of no relation to Carl Radle, just a fan

Thanks for the past thread link! Some good insight/speculation...I'm trying to figure out what a Voodoo Child (SR) would sound like with Duane on slide

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 02:44 PM
DobroDen - how is that Crosstown Traffic book? That's one of the books about Hendrix I haven't read.

Have you read Electric Gypsy? That one was really really good. Done very well by Harry Shaprio with some great information. It's the best Hendrix book I've read.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 03:31 PM
This is just going from foggy memory, but I think BT once posted on this topic on the old site: at the Atlanta Pop, the ABB didn't get to hook up with Jimi. Wonder what the Dominos thought after hearing of his passing-it's right around the time they recorded Little Wing.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 03:37 PM
I posted an article (AP wire story) on here several months ago about Duane and Eric flying out to Seattle together to attend Jimi's funeral.
 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 08:24 PM
Great Jimi docos:

http://www.amazon.com/Jimi-Hendrix-Deluxe-Arthur-Allen/dp/B0009E3234/ref=rs l_mainw_dpl/103-1576836-4573425?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/Jimi-Hendrix-Uncut-Story/dp/B00029X08I/ref=rsl_mainw_ dpl/103-1576836-4573425?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 10:11 PM
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DobroDen - how is that Crosstown Traffic book? That's one of the books about Hendrix I haven't read.

Have you read Electric Gypsy? That one was really really good. Done very well by Harry Shaprio with some great information. It's the best Hendrix book I've read.


ELECTRIC GYPSY is a great book. Very in depth with tones of facts. Even gives you the serial numbers of the amps he used. Unreal.

My wife just brought me a book from the library writen by Mitch Michell. name escapes me now but i will start reading it tonight.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 10:40 PM

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And as far as the two playing together, there was a rumor some time back that they played one afternoon at the Fillmore West in early 1970. Just the two of them with acoustic guitars and no crowd. But not one person even close to the band at that time remembers that happening. From Phil Walden to Bill Graham to Mike Callahan, they all say it never took place.

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Thom Doucette once spent an evening spinning tales for Kirk and me and this is one of them. He said that he and Duane were hanging out together one afternoon and on a whim headed over to the Fillmore West, where Hendrix was booked that evening. They walked in on the soundcheck, Duane picked up a guitar, and the two of them spent several hours jamming onstage in front of the empty theatre. He was there and he said it happened, although I don't recall that it was acoustic only.

 

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  posted on 1/30/2007 at 11:31 PM
That would be easy to verify if one knew the date. If you could put Hendrix and Duane in the same town at the same time it would have more veracity. Intersting, though, that Hendrix was quoted as saying he never jamed with Duane. Anyone out there up for some detective work?

 

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  posted on 1/31/2007 at 05:14 AM
A resource of Jimi's gig listings isn't that easy to find on the 'net - there's definitely a dearth of decent resources out there (and I include the official Hendrix site, which appears to be written for the benefit of 5 year olds, rather than serious fans!)

In the end I went to "Electric Gypsy" & found what I wanted - Jimi played the Fillmore Auditorium (NOT the Fillmore West, which is what Bill Graham renamed the Carousel in Summer 1968, after buying it off the Grateful Dead) on June 20th-24th 1967, and again on February 1st, 1968. He never played the "Fillmore West" at all, with all his subsequent headlining gigs in San Francisco occurring in the much larger Winterland ballroom.

Of course, in 1967 and early 1968, Duane was a member of the Hour Glass, based in Los Angeles, & would have been a relatively unknown young guitarist. Would this have precluded him from the meeting at "Fillmore West" that Thom Doucette refers to? Could it have been a different venue, in a different city?

 
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  posted on 1/31/2007 at 08:20 AM
The story of Duane and Jimi jamming to an empty theater ... just adds to the mystique of both legends! Imagine those notes still floating around somewhere in the stratosphere! To have been a mere fly on the wall for that moment! Surreal!

 

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  posted on 1/31/2007 at 08:55 AM
This whole idea of Jimi and Duane has peaked my interest. I did a quick google, trying to find a contact for Mitch Mitchell. Mitch, or any of Hendrix's surviving cronies (roadies, management et al) or any Duane folks (Hourglass personnel and/or support) - if this happened, surely there is somebody who was present that has some lucent memory.

On the other hand, I do like the mythical legend!

 

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My wife just brought me a book from the library writen by Mitch Michell. name escapes me now but i will start reading it tonight.


That one's probably Inside the Experience. I read it a while ago, but remember it being pretty good. It gave a nice look into what it was like on the road.

If Duane and Hendrix did jam together there's a good possiblity there was tape rolling. Hendrix was fanatical about taping his playing. Like the Generation Club show from 4-9-68 (maybe the 15th) with BB King, that was taped personally by Hendrix with his 4 track.

 

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A resource of Jimi's gig listings isn't that easy to find on the 'net - there's definitely a dearth of decent resources out there (and I include the official Hendrix site, which appears to be written for the benefit of 5 year olds, rather than serious fans!)

In the end I went to "Electric Gypsy" & found what I wanted - Jimi played the Fillmore Auditorium (NOT the Fillmore West, which is what Bill Graham renamed the Carousel in Summer 1968, after buying it off the Grateful Dead) on June 20th-24th 1967, and again on February 1st, 1968. He never played the "Fillmore West" at all, with all his subsequent headlining gigs in San Francisco occurring in the much larger Winterland ballroom.

Of course, in 1967 and early 1968, Duane was a member of the Hour Glass, based in Los Angeles, & would have been a relatively unknown young guitarist. Would this have precluded him from the meeting at "Fillmore West" that Thom Doucette refers to? Could it have been a different venue, in a different city?


First, Johnny would have known if Duane had jammed with Hendrix when he was in the HourGlass so that would preclude those dates. However, I went on the HTW site and found the following dates the Brothers played in NY, assuming it was FE rather than FW.

Jan. 15, 16, 17, 18, May 31, July 21, July 26, Sept 23, Oct. 23 and Dec. 11 &12.

The gigs in January were at the FW and the September and December gigs were at FE. Hendrix wasn't mentioned as being billed at either place. The only other thought would be to put Hendrix in New York at the same time the Brothers were in town on the above dates. And it also proves my point that people tend to remember things that aren't necessarily completely accurate. What's the old saying?.....Oh yes, if you remember the 60s, you weren't there!

So, the FW part of the story is pretty well scrapped......but maybe it was the FE ?

And again, I have to say Johnny is fairly certain had it happened, Duane would have told him.

 

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Johnny is fairly certain had it happened, Duane would have told him.

Yep -- I sure am looking forward to reading Johnny's book -- he was there through everything from day one.
Ann, I wonder if Johnny could verify the AP story playallnite posted about Duane and Eric flying out to Seattle for Jimi's funeral -- timing-wise, it wouldn't seem to be all that far fetched since they (Duane & Eric) were still involved with the Layla album.

 

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it's kind of eerie how Derek and the Dominos decided to cover "Little Wing" and than soon after Hendrix passed

Clapton was pretty proud of the recording and was all set to go see Hendrix and play it for him, and he also bought a left handed Stratocaster to give to him...and than Hendrix was gone. Some say Clapton wept for 15 hours. I also read that Clapton was angry/upset with Hendrix because he felt Hendrix had left him all alone

 

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Yep -- I sure am looking forward to reading Johnny's book -- he was there through everything from day one.
Ann, I wonder if Johnny could verify the AP story playallnite posted about Duane and Eric flying out to Seattle for Jimi's funeral -- timing-wise, it wouldn't seem to be all that far fetched since they (Duane & Eric) were still involved with the Layla album.


I asked Johnny if he had any memory of this event and he said he didn't. I went to my files to check something out and I have October 1 and 2 listed as guitar over-dubs by Duane on Layla. I'm not saying it didn't happen, however, there doesn't seem to be a record of it anywhere else I could check. To attend the funeral both Duane and Eric would have to fly out to Washington to attend the funeral on October 1 and return in time to do overdubs that same day. I'm not really certain the connections were that good back then, but anything is possible. How's that for not giving a definitive answer!

 

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Johnny is fairly certain had it happened, Duane would have told him.

Yep -- I sure am looking forward to reading Johnny's book -- he was there through everything from day one.
Ann, I wonder if Johnny could verify the AP story playallnite posted about Duane and Eric flying out to Seattle for Jimi's funeral -- timing-wise, it wouldn't seem to be all that far fetched since they (Duane & Eric) were still involved with the Layla album.


I asked Johnny if he had any memory of this event and he said he didn't. I went to my files to check something out and I have October 1 and 2 listed as guitar over-dubs by Duane on Layla. I'm not saying it didn't happen, however, there doesn't seem to be a record of it anywhere else I could check. To attend the funeral both Duane and Eric would have to fly out to Washington to attend the funeral on October 1 and return in time to do overdubs that same day. I'm not really certain the connections were that good back then, but anything is possible. How's that for not giving a definitive answer!


did a little internet search and found this article from jimi's funeral. it mentions nothing about clapton or duane being at jimi's funeral.


Jimi Hendrix is mourned at his Seattle funeral and wake and buried in Renton on October 1, 1970.

On October 1, 1970, rock legend Jimi Hendrix (1942-1970) is mourned at his Seattle funeral and wake and buried in Renton.
Funeral services began at 1 p.m. at the Dunlop Baptist Church (8445 Rainier Avenue S). The Hendrixes had requested a private funeral for friends and family only. The press and fans showed up, but respectfully stayed behind rope barriers. The Seattle police were there in case of trouble with crowd control, but the crowd remained quiet.

The Reverend Harold Blackburn officiated the service. A close family friend of the Hendrixes, Patronella Wright, sang spirituals, and Freddie Maye Gautier delivered the eulogy, reading the words to Jimi's song, "Angel." Dave Anderson, James Thomas, Steve Phillips, Eddy Howard, Donny Howell, and Herbert Price were pallbearers. They were all childhood friends of Jimi's, with the exception of Herbert Price, who was Jimi's chauffeur and valet from Hawaii where Jimi had been filming that summer.

Jimi's dad Al, and his stepmother June, were there, as were Jimi's brother, Leon, and his sister, Janie. Jimi's grandmother Nora came from Vancouver with her boyfriend Doug. Frank Hendrix, Al's brother, and Al's sister in-law Delores (sister of Lucille, Jimi's mother), and her kids Roberta, Dee-Dee, and Julia attended.

The Experience's bass player, Noel Redding, and drummer, Mitch Mitchell, came. Michael Jeffery, Jimi's manager, made all the preparations and had a guitar made out of flowers for the burial service. The great trumpeter Miles Davis attended as did Seattle Mayor Wes Uhlman (b. 1935). Other attendees were: Eddie Kramer, chief engineer at Electric Ladyland Studios; roadies Eric Barrett and Gerry Stickells; blues singer Johnny Winter and his manager, Steve Paul, who was owner of the New York club, The Scene, that Jimi frequented; New York music writer, Al Aronowitz; Abe Jacob, who had done the sound for two of Jimi's tours; Chuck Wein, who filmed the movie Rainbow Bridge in Hawaii; Tom Hulett, one of Jimi's closest friends in Seattle, and who had promoted Jimi's Seattle and West Coast gigs; John Hammond Jr., and Buddy Miles.

Eric Burdon, ex-lead singer of the Animals, and a good friend of Jimi's, didn't attend the funeral. He stated that Jimi hated Seattle, and he thought it was improper to bury him there.

Jimi was laid to rest in Greenwood Cemetery in Renton (350 Monroe Avenue NE). Jimi's mother Lucille (ca. 1925-1958) is buried there, as is his father, James Allen Ross "Al" Hendrix (1919-2002), his grandmother Zenora Hendrix (1884-1985), and his uncle Frank Hendrix (1918-1986).

After a chorus of "When the Saints Go Marching in," Jimi's casket was lowered into the grave. His gravestone reads: "Forever in our hearts, James M. 'Jimi' Hendrix, 1942-1970."

A gathering was held at the food circus building (the Center House) in the Seattle Center, where Johnny Winter, Miles Davis, and Mitch, Noel, and Buddy Miles played music. The program director from KOL-FM radio station, invited by Tom Hulett, called to say he was going to be late because he was at the "food circus" with the Hendrix family. This went out over the air and fans began to come down to the center. Hulett spent a good deal of the day explaining that the family wanted to keep the gathering private. The fans cooperated.

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  posted on 2/1/2007 at 12:15 AM
I can't remember the source of this information, but I read that Clapton intentionally did not attend the funeral of Jimi Hendrix due to the fact that he was asked to play at the event, and did not feel it was appropriate to do so. Because of this, he did not attend the funeral but the other Dominos excepting Duane did fly out to Seattle. This left Clapton and Duane alone together to work on overdubs in Miami with the rest of the band out of the picture. I can dig to find out where I learned that information, but I am sure it was either in a book or interview.
 
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