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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 06:22 PM
Just finished reading Skydog and I really wished I hadn't.............even considering the facts that he was young ( if 24 is to be considered young ?) and he was a product of his time, my view of of Duanne has been dramactically diminshed.


The uninhibited drug use and the reprehensible interview with Dave Herman on the NYC radio interview concerning the girl he impregnated and their offspring has left me dejected.





[Edited on 1/22/2007 by IReallyEnjoySomeDickey]

 
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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 06:24 PM
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Just finished reading Skydog and I really wished I hadn't.............even considering the facts that that was young ( 24 ?) and he was a product of his time, my view of of Duanne has been dramactically diminshed.


The uninhibited drug use and the reprehensible interview with Dave Herman on the NYC radio interview concerning the girl he impregnated and their offsring has left me dejected.



[Edited on 1/22/2007 by IReallyEnjoySomeDickey]


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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 07:30 PM
Duane Allman was a wonderful guitar player and band leader. I love his music. Our rock music heroes have feet of clay, to say the least, and mistaking them for model human beings or role models is bound to disappoint. Been there.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 07:44 PM
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Maybe you'd feel better if you went and got some dickey.


LMAO!

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 07:49 PM
My good friend, Ineta Mann, once told me "judge ye not least ye be judged."

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 07:56 PM
i can only speak for myself here, but the good lord knows i didnt know my a$$ from applebutter when i was 24 - hell, even at age 34 it was sketchy and i damn sure don't know too much now..........and i didnt (don't) have half as many temptations around me as bro. Duane did.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 08:04 PM
After reading Skydog, my opinion of Duane Changed. We all know he was an amazing guitarist, but he was also a great person. He had a canning ability to stand out among others. Who didnt do drugs at that time? Compared to others, Duane wasnt that bad. A lot of guys almost died because of drugs. You cant change your opinion of someone because they did drugs. If anything, you should think of him in a higher regard after reading Skydog.

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 08:07 PM
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i can only speak for myself here, but the good lord knows i didnt know my a$$ from applebutter when i was 24 - hell, even at age 34 it was sketchy and i damn sure don't know too much now..........and i didnt (don't) have half as many temptations around me as bro. Duane did.




Linnie, that was funniernhell

never heard that one before!

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 08:08 PM
I sure would like to know what skeletons are in your closet! You are being very hypocritical.

He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. or

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 08:09 PM
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Just finished reading Skydog and I really wished I hadn't.............even considering the facts that he was young ( if 24 is to be considered young ?) and he was a product of his time, my view of of Duanne has been dramactically diminshed.


The uninhibited drug use and the reprehensible interview with Dave Herman on the NYC radio interview concerning the girl he impregnated and their offspring has left me dejected.





[Edited on 1/22/2007 by IReallyEnjoySomeDickey]


This is just one of the reasons I've been distressed over some of the stuff in the book and mostly the rehashing of the interview. First of all, Duane was married to Donna, not just some girl he impregnated. Galadrielle is his legitimate daughter. As for getting loaded and spouting off...has anyone here ever gotten out of a relationship and NOT said something they wish they hadn't.

If you want to know the heart of Duane, read the quote on his grave marker. It was taken from his diary and it spoke of what he wanted to do and be. So, maybe he did drugs, and yes he was a product of the time, and he said some things he was probably be sorry for. Please don't judge Duane from a book written by someone who didn't know him. He friends will tell you in spite of everything, he was a decent human being.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 08:13 PM
Hey folks, he's just trying to get a rise out of everyone.

Don't bother with him.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 08:16 PM
I always thought it was a her .

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 08:26 PM
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Just finished reading Skydog and I really wished I hadn't.............even considering the facts that he was young ( if 24 is to be considered young ?) and he was a product of his time, my view of of Duanne has been dramactically diminshed.


The uninhibited drug use and the reprehensible interview with Dave Herman on the NYC radio interview concerning the girl he impregnated and their offspring has left me dejected.





[Edited on 1/22/2007 by IReallyEnjoySomeDickey]


Ohhh, young Jedi, eventually you'll realize that unless your name is Zack or Dickey, anyone who has ever played in or with the ABB (or the family bands) are sacred ground around here. They will be defended to the ends of the world, whether it seems rational or not. (I'm not saying that is necessarily the case here, but stick around and you'll see)

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 08:42 PM
I had no problem reading the book. I love reading things on any subject that I enjoy even when I know most of the facts already.

The one problem that I had with the book was that it wasn't really a biography on Duane to me. Duane died maybe 2/3 of the way through the book and then it rehashed ABB stories.

Just being picky I guess. Just would have preferred it being totally about Duane. More interviews or pictures. My other gripe would be about all the blank pages in it. Instead of starting a chapter on the next page there was often 1-1 1/2 blank pages. Either it should have been put together better or better yet put some more pictures in.

Not slamming. Just suggesting.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 08:57 PM
like Ann said...

I guess its who we aspire to be which really matters

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 09:14 PM
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like Ann said...

I guess its who we aspire to be which really matters


Thank you! But I won't defend to the death all things Alllman...no matter who it is, I only hope what they've done is reviewed in the context of the times in which they've done it. Not everyone is perfect, Duane certainly wasn't, but Johnny had a good line that turned into the Wolf's Howling song Gregg did on Searching For Simplicity.....it's hard to live your life in color and tell the truth in black and white.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 09:17 PM
From where I'm sitting today, 24 looks extremely young. I'm certainly glad nobody today is concerned about what I was doing or saying at 24.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 09:20 PM
To each thier own...The man's mother is the only one with the right to complain about what he did or didn't do. We have his music and that is all that should matter to us.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 09:21 PM
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Ohhh, young Jedi, eventually you'll realize that unless your name is Zack or Dickey, anyone who has ever played in or with the ABB (or the family bands) are sacred ground around here. They will be defended to the ends of the world, whether it seems rational or not. (I'm not saying that is necessarily the case here, but stick around and you'll see)
Don't forget the onstage syntar (synthesizer) player in the early 80's version of the ABB.

More seriously, I don't doubt it a bit the person who started this thread is just trying to mess with people in the forum. Whoever it is, they just read a book about Duane Allman, made a post here about it, edited the post, and still spelled the name "Duane" incorrectly.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 09:29 PM
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Just finished reading Skydog and I really wished I hadn't.............even considering the facts that that was young ( 24 ?) and he was a product of his time, my view of of Duanne has been dramactically diminshed.


The uninhibited drug use and the reprehensible interview with Dave Herman on the NYC radio interview concerning the girl he impregnated and their offsring has left me dejected.



[Edited on 1/22/2007 by IReallyEnjoySomeDickey]


Maybe you'd feel better if you went and got some dickey.


awsome reply, wish i could have got that one in. hay at least it brought the book.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 09:44 PM
Adversity is the trial of principle. Without it a man hardly knows whether he is honest or not.
And Duane was know for being honest..brutally so. He would have come to terms with his fatherhood, and sang his redemption song to Graladriel. If she has come to terms with it, then it is not your place to hold it high.
As others here have pinned your true intentions for posting, I too realize you are trying to exault Dickey, by trying to diminnish Duane, when all you do is dimminish yourself, and illuminate your own character flaws. I love Dickey as a musician, his performances over the years have been nothing short of inspiring for the most part. But look at his track record as a family man, a man who had a chance to change his way of living time after time. I won't hold it against him, and he's still alive. I'd be damned if I would slam a 24 year old kid who was killed in the midst of his meteoric rise. And to further shame you, how dare you be a product of the same time as Duane, and give a holier than thou point of view. Open your closet doors, let us look around a bit...then maybe we'll have a serious conversation about how life works.
He who despises himself, still esteems the despiser within..
...Redemption.



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  posted on 1/22/2007 at 11:59 PM
So many years after his death, Elvis makes a valid point.
 

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  posted on 1/23/2007 at 02:08 AM
You read the whole book and didn't pick up on the fact that his name is spelled "Duane" with one "n"?

 

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  posted on 1/23/2007 at 03:29 AM
Wow! What an interesting thread. Perhaps I'm a tad too close to the subject matter, seeing's how I wrote the book, but I never thought that anyone reading "Skydog" would come away with a negative view of Duane Allman. As Ann said, one has to view Duane in the context of the times in which he lived.

As John Carter said in the book, "It's of the era...using cocaine as a handshake."

As far as the infamous radio interview is concerned, I included it not to be hurtful to anyone among the living, but to show that Duane was as human as everybody else. You drink a bottle of Jack Daniel's before doing a live radio interview and things are not likely to turn out very pretty - no matter who you are.

On the flip side, I included a host of quotes by people saying extremely kind things about Duane, the person - how helpful he was to other musicians; how he helped acts like Cowboy get signed to Capricorn; how he sat in on sessions just for the fun of playing; how unselfish he was; how he literally changed people's lives, etc.

I would think anyone reading the entire book would come away admiring the guy a great deal, rather than focusing on a couple of negative attributes that an awful lot of people who were in their early twenties during that era would also be found guilty of.

Duane Allman chose to be a public person, and I chose to write about him because I felt he was deserving of a full-length biography. I believed his story needed to be told. The fact that the book's already in its third printing in the three months it's been out is a strong indication that an awful lot of folks wanted to read about him. It has nothing to do with who the author is. It has to do with who the book is about.

Just to comment on a couple of the other comments, the reason there is a blank page between a few of the chapters is because every new chapter starts on the right-hand page. It was just a stylistic thing - not an effort to "pad." As I've written elsewhere in the Duane forum, the original manuscript was 15,000 words longer than the finished book.

I'm happy to take all the constructive criticism anybody wants to lay on me. This year is my 30th anniversary in the music business, so my skin's reached rhino thickness at this point. But, having said that, I've had a difficult time understanding the use of the word "rehashing" in reference to anything I wrote. It's not a word that's been used by any of the critics in any magazine or newspaper review of the book. In fact, the only place I've seen it used in reference to "Skydog" has been on the ABB forum. I suspect maybe it's because so many people here are extremely familiar with stories about Duane and the band. And, since the facts are the facts, my only two choices were to either tell the whole story and run the risk of having people say "I already knew that - therefore, he's rehashing" or leave out part of the story and having people say "How come he didn't include such and such?"

The one thing I chose not to write about was the H&H Restaurant. I felt that particular story had been told so many times that even casual readers of pieces about the band were tired of hearing about it. But, believe me, I've gotten an earful from some folks asking how I could write a whole book about Duane and not include the H&H. Put it in - it's rehashing. Leave it out - it's an unforgivable omission. (Just a little sidenote there to show that all cliches are true - no matter how hard you try, you can't make everybody happy.)

The reason there aren't more photos is because some of the photos cost a fortune. Some folks who are huge Duane fans let me use their photos for free. Others charged up to $1,000 a shot. There are ten photos in the guitar appendix alone. I went so far over budget on the photos that I ended up paying for some of them myself just so they could be in the book.

And finally, I honestly believe it's not a mortal sin for an author to write a book about someone he/she didn't know personally. I wish I had known Duane, but I didn't. I did enjoy talking to dozens of people who did know him, and I thought they did a beautiful job of describing a fascinating, charasmatic, unbelievably talented person. If there was a rule that said you had to have personally known your subjects to write books about them, there would be no modern-day biographies of Mozart, Beethoven, Abraham Lincoln, or Leonardo DaVinci. Either that, or the author would have to be very, very old

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  posted on 1/23/2007 at 04:37 AM
Randy, absolutely clear, true and understood. Thanks for a book that showed Duane to be even greater than I already assumed. And congratulations with its well deserved succes.

 
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