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  posted on 3/6/2007 at 02:27 PM
Ottawa vs. Pittsburg

Should be quite a matchup tonight.

I caught Crosby in Ottawa last year. He was coming off the flu and was still by far the best player on the ice for Pittsburg. That isn't saying much because Pittsburg looked like an AHL team playing an NHL club. Should be a better matchup this year. Will have to watch on TV this year though.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2007 at 06:59 PM
Yup,it's true... have not been a Devils fan for while but you missed the lol. By no means was Janssen's hit on Kaberle the worst thing to happen on ice. Teddy Green swinging his stick comes to mind...Claude the Weasel Lemieux rearranging Kris Draper's face on the boards in Detroit. I would still argue Janssen's penalty should have been same number of games Kaberle misses but Colie Campbell insists NHL GM's are fine with his rule of law.YMMV.

 

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  posted on 3/7/2007 at 09:24 AM
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Yup,it's true... have not been a Devils fan for while but you missed the lol. By no means was Janssen's hit on Kaberle the worst thing to happen on ice. Teddy Green swinging his stick comes to mind...Claude the Weasel Lemieux rearranging Kris Draper's face on the boards in Detroit. I would still argue Janssen's penalty should have been same number of games Kaberle misses but Colie Campbell insists NHL GM's are fine with his rule of law.YMMV.


I didn't miss the LOL, lol.

I wasn't directing what I said towards you Jack, I was just commenting on the incident itself. I'm sorry if I offended you.

I agree with some of what you're saying but the fact that Cam neither left his feet, raised his arm or even took additional strides when making the hit makes me think the 3 game suspension was fair.

Why should Cam miss the same amount of games as Kaberle? You yourself said Kaberle played a small part in the severity of the incident by admiring his own pass. A smart player is aware of who's around him on the ice and what they're capable of. Kaberle's hardly a rookie, yet his lack of awareness may have hurt him alot worse than what might have otherwise been if he was paying better attention.

What further infuriated me was when the TV showed Darcy Tucker going ballistic in the players tunnel after the incident happened. Made me wish I was seated by the tunnel and had a big old cup of Pepsi!

 

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  posted on 3/7/2007 at 12:46 PM
A smart player is aware of who is around. But anybody can be caught and run over. A hit from behind or a blind side hit are dangerous and anyone can be the victim. No matter how skilled they are.

It is a matter of sportsmanship. Hard hitting players don't need to be cheap to level someone.

 

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  posted on 3/7/2007 at 02:03 PM
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A smart player is aware of who is around. But anybody can be caught and run over. A hit from behind or a blind side hit are dangerous and anyone can be the victim. No matter how skilled they are.

It is a matter of sportsmanship. Hard hitting players don't need to be cheap to level someone.


Look at the clip...is it Cam's fault that Kaberle isn't paying attention the entire time between making the pass and getting hit? He's skating up ice backwards looking across ice the whole time...whose fault's that??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aV076QEzQo

 

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  posted on 3/7/2007 at 02:29 PM
Wings could land in East if Penguins fly

Tuesday, Mar 6, 2007 3:43 pm EST


The Pittsburgh Penguins now say they are actively seeking relocation. While this doesn't mean a move is imminent, the team is a step closer to playing its home games in Kansas City next season.

This raises the question: Would the NHL place a Missouri-based franchise in the Western Conference? If it did, would this open the door for the Detroit Red Wings to shift over to the Eastern Conference? The scenario is not out of the question.

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Wouldn't Colombus or Nashville being put back in the east make more sense than Detroit?


 

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  posted on 3/7/2007 at 02:54 PM
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A smart player is aware of who is around. But anybody can be caught and run over. A hit from behind or a blind side hit are dangerous and anyone can be the victim. No matter how skilled they are.

It is a matter of sportsmanship. Hard hitting players don't need to be cheap to level someone.


Look at the clip...is it Cam's fault that Kaberle isn't paying attention the entire time between making the pass and getting hit? He's skating up ice backwards looking across ice the whole time...whose fault's that??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aV076QEzQo


it isn't Cam' fault that Kaberle isn't looking at him. it is his fault for hitting late, coming from the blind side and extends to make sure he gets the head shot.

Hockey is fast enough and hard hitting. There is no need for that type of hit.

 

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  posted on 3/7/2007 at 07:35 PM
Crosby takes Ottawa down in the Shoot-Out. They are lucky in those shoot-outs lately.
 

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  posted on 3/8/2007 at 09:07 AM
Found the wife had changed the cable plan and got 3 more hockey channels, well 2 actually -one shows tthe Leafs. I love that woman...caught the Penguins-Ottawa game and then the shootout in Nashville with a Wings win Tuesday night.

As far as realignment, put Detroit back in East,then playoff games wouldn't be such a pain in the butt with time zone differences. A lot of teams with great regular seasons are going golfing after first round in the West,not too hard to see who's in from the East.

 

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  posted on 3/8/2007 at 03:07 PM
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As far as realignment, put Detroit back in East,then playoff games wouldn't be such a pain in the butt with time zone differences. A lot of teams with great regular seasons are going golfing after first round in the West,not too hard to see who's in from the East.



Can't see it happening, Detroit too big of a draw throughout west. I've heard the NHL was thinking of Atlanta moving to West(??? Like having St. Louis Rams in West in NFL???) and Columbus moving East. There was also a report today/yesterday that Pittsburgh discussing move to Las Vegas.
I think Atlanta and Nashville are sunk in their resopective cities even when they play well no one pays attention. Move Nashville to Portland Oregon (sell out WHL games regularily and everyone there hates Jaliblazers also Jail Blazers threatening to move to Seattle once Sonics leave) and move Atlanta to Winnipeg (Winnipeg got ripped off in the 90's, new building with suites). Lessen the travel Sched. for western teams.

I would love to see Wings back in East, Leafs Wings rivalry is a great one. Game 7, 1993, Overtime, Borschevsky!!!!

 

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  posted on 3/8/2007 at 04:44 PM
The most sensible move, geographically speaking, would be taking Nashville out of the West and putting them in the Southeast division and moving Washington back to the Atlantic.

 

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  posted on 3/8/2007 at 10:18 PM
Devils beat the Pens in a shoot out.

Win number 40 for Marty Brodeur this year.

His SIXTH season with 40 or more wins.

No other goalie in history has more than three.

He's the best, folks.

 

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  posted on 3/9/2007 at 08:16 AM
Simon's vicious two hander to the face of Hollweg.
Can't wait to see what the suspension will be for this cowardly act.
What happened to dropping the gloves?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esETGHljQi4

 

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  posted on 3/10/2007 at 12:30 AM
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Simon's vicious two hander to the face of Hollweg.
Can't wait to see what the suspension will be for this cowardly act.
What happened to dropping the gloves?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esETGHljQi4


Nasty stuff. I didn't think the hit on Simon that provoked this attack was a clean hit.
Drove him face first into the boards. IF that gets called does Simon retaliate? maybe, maybe not

 

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  posted on 3/10/2007 at 01:19 AM
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Nasty stuff. I didn't think the hit on Simon that provoked this attack was a clean hit.
Drove him face first into the boards. IF that gets called does Simon retaliate? maybe, maybe not


The initial hit(hardly dirty) is irrelevant. Simon went over the line, it's a no brainer. He's
looking to get at least 25 if not more.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2007 at 08:43 AM
I am a lifelong Islander fan, and I actually really liked that they picked up Simon this year. I think he is actually a solid player that can produce some good results, but what he pulled off the other night was cavemanesque at best. Although, I'll let it slide since it was against the Rangers. Actually, he lost the friggin' game for them too which is not good this time of year when every point counts. Monday's game should be another good one. He should probably be given 40 games for that.
 

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  posted on 3/10/2007 at 10:17 AM
Not defending Simon's hit by any means.

That said, Holweg is a no talent punk who seems to be there just to start sh!t.

 

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That said, Holweg is a no talent punk who seems to be there just to start sh!t.


WOW, there are players in the NHL that have no talent and are just there to be physical and protect the over paid prima donnas. When did this start. I am in shock

 

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Nasty stuff. I didn't think the hit on Simon that provoked this attack was a clean hit.
Drove him face first into the boards. IF that gets called does Simon retaliate? maybe, maybe not


The initial hit(hardly dirty) is irrelevant. Simon went over the line, it's a no brainer. He's
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It is not irrelevant. Bad things happen like this when the officials lose control of the game.

I agree that Simon was way over the line. But the officials should have made a call and
that may have prevented Simon from taking it into his own hands.

 

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That said, Holweg is a no talent punk who seems to be there just to start sh!t.


WOW, there are players in the NHL that have no talent and are just there to be physical and protect the over paid prima donnas. When did this start. I am in shock


You don't know what you're talking about.

Ryan Holweg isn't trying to protect anyone.

Not his game.

He's not a fighter.

Like Ulf Samullsen, Essa Tikkanen, Matt Barnaby, etc.

He's their to cheap shot people and cause havoc.

You won't see him fighting anyone who looks at Jagr crosseyed.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2007 at 11:34 PM
Devils beat Buffalo 3-2.

I should have gone to that game.




Well this long season is over.

Lost all three games this weekend.

Last one 7-1.

Derek scored his only goal of the weekend to ruin the shuout.

I'm looking forward to not having practice next week.

Time for several cold beers.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2007 at 11:36 PM
Simon is more proof that there are too many bad steriod juiced players in the game these days. Concussion my ass. If he was concussed he'd be laying on the ice. He went over the line and he will pay the price. About time the NHL did something. Throw him out for the year.

Leafs win in OT big big. Cheers

 

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  posted on 3/11/2007 at 01:05 PM
Simon out for the rest of this year and at least 25 games total (could miss 43 games if they make to the cup final)

longest penalty ever given.

Simon did suffer a concussion in the boarding hit he took just before the incident but doesn't use
that as an excuse.

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Simon said he was diagnosed Friday with a concussion as a result of Hollweg's hit that drove him into the boards. His inability to fly made it necessary for Campbell to come to New York for the hearing instead of holding it in Toronto.

"I do not remember much about Thursday's incident," Simon said in a statement. "When I saw the tape on Friday morning, it explained a lot to me when I saw the look on my face after being hit into the boards. I was completely out of it. When I met with the media about 30 minutes later, I still was not feeling well."

Simon said he still felt symptoms Saturday morning when he went to New York for the 90-minute hearing.


"I need to make clear that this is not justification for the danger I put Ryan Hollweg in and the damage I have caused the game," Simon said in the statement. "Since Ryan is thankfully OK, what hurts the most is knowing my actions will result in me losing the privilege of being in the Islanders lineup





 

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  posted on 3/11/2007 at 01:08 PM
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If he was concussed he'd be laying on the ice.


not true.

My brother suffered a concussion in a bike fall, he was able to get up and ride his bike
after the fall. But couldn't remember my name or who I was. A concussion doesn't necessarily knock
one out cold .

 

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That said, Holweg is a no talent punk who seems to be there just to start sh!t.


WOW, there are players in the NHL that have no talent and are just there to be physical and protect the over paid prima donnas. When did this start. I am in shock


You don't know what you're talking about.

Ryan Holweg isn't trying to protect anyone.

Not his game.

He's not a fighter.

Like Ulf Samullsen, Essa Tikkanen, Matt Barnaby, etc.

He's their to cheap shot people and cause havoc.

You won't see him fighting anyone who looks at Jagr crosseyed.


Ron, notice the wink in my post. Never said Holweg is the enforcer type that goes toe to toe throwing punches. You can protect team mates in other ways.

Funny you should mention three people that spent time with the Rangers as examples of cheap shot artists. Maybe you just don't like the Rangers but every team has player whose role is to skate hard and be a pest. Barnaby has made a 14 year carreer of it and Tikkanen has a few Stanley Cups under his belt.

Anyway, Hollweg didn't deserve the kind of retaliation he got even if he had recieved a penaty for his hit on Simon

 
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