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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 04:08 AM
Im not only a huge Dead fan,im also a big fan of The Allman Brothers..I just wonder what guitarist you folks think is the best in the Allman Brothers trough the years..I know most folks think Duane is far the best..I think Duane was one of the best white blues players of all time..And his slide playing was very unique and mind blowing..But i think Mr Richard Betts was far the best guitar player in the history of ABB..His techniuqe and the way he could play country,jazz,rock and blues etc..Duane was ofcourse a much better slide plaayer and Derek and Warren too..But straight lead guitar is think Dickey was way better than all the other guitar players in this band..Listen to Ramblin man or Jessica from the Brothers on the road dvd..Or his playing in 71 or in the early 90ties..so amazing good..anyone who agree with me??

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 07:13 AM
Ok, I'll bite. Hell yeah, I agree with ya, but I don't think there will be many others on here that'll agree. Oh, well.
 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 07:33 AM
Great thread. I don't think this topic has ever been covered.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 07:42 AM
Paging rainy.... rainy, rainy please come to the forum please!

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 08:28 AM


Betts is my least favourite of all. Especially that terrible sound he had in the 90's , and all his solos were the same, and pretty nasty sounding.

Although i have just woken up and am pretty grumpy

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 08:42 AM
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Betts is my least favourite of all. Especially that terrible sound he had in the 90's , and all his solos were the same, and pretty nasty sounding.

Although i have just woken up and am pretty grumpy




 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 08:42 AM
Eric ... I thought I heard some one calling me... and yes.. he is ... but of course that is only IMO..
It's been a while since we had a DB thread...now y'all be nice

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 08:45 AM
IMHO....

1. Duane Allman
2. Dickey Betts
3. Derek Trucks
4. Warren Haynes
5. Jimmy Herring
6. Jack Pearson and then......

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 08:51 AM
Hi Rainy!

I think we lost Duane so early in his career that we couldn't know how he would evolve, and we heard Dickey's style change as time went on. That being said, I liked Dickey's straight leads better, but it was the fact that they didn't sound just like each other that made the ABB a step above all other multiple guitar bands.

However, Duane and Dickey are my favorites, taken together or apart...simply the best!

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 08:51 AM
OldABBFan..I'd pretty much have to agree with your list

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:06 AM
Duane & Dickey together, I can't think of a better duo. Saw Dickey this past July and he sounded better than ever. If I was being asked to choose team players for the current line up it wouldn't include Derek. I've never cared for him but I'd like to see Warren with someone ... have to think about who. I like Kimock but I have to try hard to picture him playing some Allman material although he'd be perfect to bring that smooth sound back to the band. I love Warren with ABB but after seeing him with Mule 12/29, have to say he really went above and beyond anytime I've seen him play in March

[Edited on 1/12/2007 by drobyn]

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:10 AM
"..I think Duane was one of the best White blues players of all time..And his slide playing was very unique and mind blowing"

white, black, brown, orange, blue, pink, yellow...............it does not matter. Duane was among the best guitar players of all time period. IMHO.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:12 AM
I don't think it can be anything other than how a musician's work makes YOU feel...

art touches the soul...we are all different, therefore there can be no "best"that is definitive....

I could never rank the guitar players form this band..they are all too good for that..I will say, that for my tastes, the guys that have played in the ABB tend to be the ones I listen to more than any other...

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:16 AM
lefty---you nailed it!!!!!

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:27 AM
OK, I'll put a little twist in this!

Since part of the ABB sound is the "twin lead" guitars.....here ya go. I will group them in tandums.

1 Duane & Dickey
2 Dickey & Warren
3 Warren & Derek
4 Dickey & Dan Toler
5 The rest

I did this because I believe Duane and Dickey were the best synergetic combination. This to me not only illustrates there leads together, but their rhythyms supporting the others leads.

 

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Im not only a huge Dead fan,im also a big fan of The Allman Brothers..I just wonder what guitarist you folks think is the best in the Allman Brothers trough the years..I know most folks think Duane is far the best..I think Duane was one of the best white blues players of all time..And his slide playing was very unique and mind blowing..But i think Mr Richard Betts was far the best guitar player in the history of ABB..His techniuqe and the way he could play country,jazz,rock and blues etc..Duane was ofcourse a much better slide plaayer and Derek and Warren too..But straight lead guitar is think Dickey was way better than all the other guitar players in this band..Listen to Ramblin man or Jessica from the Brothers on the road dvd..Or his playing in 71 or in the early 90ties..so amazing good..anyone who agree with me??


As a pure guitar player Dickey Betts is only the third greatest of all time in the ABB. Duane is by far the greatest. It's unimaginable what he might have done had he lived. He only played guitar for ten years and slide for 3 or 4. I believe Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks are superior players, their stunning slide abilities have to be taken into account as well as their originality and versatility. Nevertheless, Betts is still one of the greatest guitarists of all time and deserves an extremely high place of honor in any guitarist hall of fame. Of course as a songwriter he is unparalleled.

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Betts is my least favourite of all. Especially that terrible sound he had in the 90's , and all his solos were the same, and pretty nasty sounding.

Although i have just woken up and am pretty grumpy




I still like Betts...but I agree with you somewhat. He got really bend-happy, and kind of over-used sweep picking on most of his solos during this time frame. It's been covered many times, but Peakin' At The Beacon is exhibit A.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:37 AM
Last night I was listening to the 2nd disc of 9-19-71 (SUNY), Dreams and Liz Reed. Duane's playing on Dreams is so fantastic, everytime I hear it I am in awe. Then Liz Reed came on and Duane was again impressing me, but in the later part of the song it was Dickey's turn and wow, he really really sounded great.

I love the way Duane played. I really like the way that Derek plays as well. And Warren Haynes is one of my favorites. But I think sometimes people forget about Dickey a little. There was a time when he was really awesome. His influence was very very important on this band and on Warren. Even though Dickey's playing might not be up to the standards that we expect from the ABB today, his place in their history will never be forgotten by me.

I think when people say he sounded terrible in the 90s they are falling into the whole "Dickey has lost it and can't play anymore" rut. But really I heard some really great stuff from him with ABB in the 90s. Maybe his solos mostly sounded the same. But Crown Royal tastes the same everytime and I enjoy it quite a bit.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 09:45 AM
Dickey Betts has always made me feel good

Don't know of another guitar player that wrote so many great songs, particularly instrumentals...

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 10:00 AM
Warren Haynes

 

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OK, I'll put a little twist in this!

Since part of the ABB sound is the "twin lead" guitars.....here ya go. I will group them in tandums.

1 Duane & Dickey
2 Dickey & Warren
3 Warren & Derek
4 Dickey & Dan Toler
5 The rest

I did this because I believe Duane and Dickey were the best synergetic combination. This to me not only illustrates there leads together, but their rhythyms supporting the others leads.


Don't forget that short period of Dickey and Derek, and Dickey and Jack, unless you're lumping them in with "The rest".
I actually liked a lot of the Dickey and Derek combo....

 
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Dickey Betts has always made me feel good

Don't know of another guitar player that wrote so many great songs, particularly instrumentals...


Ditto. No other musician makes my hair on my neck stand up like Dickey.

 

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Last night I was listening to the 2nd disc of 9-19-71 (SUNY), Dreams and Liz Reed. Duane's playing on Dreams is so fantastic, everytime I hear it I am in awe. Then Liz Reed came on and Duane was again impressing me, but in the later part of the song it was Dickey's turn and wow, he really really sounded great.




I cannot say enough about this show. Everyone on this list should have it. Having never had the opportunity to see Duane live, or hear that much of his live stuff, I am absolutely FLOORED by his performance on these discs. Amazing doesn't capture how great he was. In my opinion, up there with Hendrix as the greatest EVER. And the more I listen to these discs (I can't seem to take them out of my car player), I must say, Dickey was also just spectacular. Anyone would pale next to Duane, but man could Dickey wail.
Say what you will about Dickey, but he is one of the alltime greats. Not only a great player, but a great tunesmith (Liz Reed & Jessica alone, HOLY SH*T).

 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 10:21 AM
Also, although they are great conversation starters, I hate the way almost all of the posts from allmanfanfromsweden start out. "Who's better?" questions and topics are for the most part totally out of place when it comes to music like this.
 

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  posted on 1/12/2007 at 10:32 AM
Duane and Dickey were good together, put truth be told, Duane was a far better and more versatile guitar player (and that not including his "slide work") than Dickey. Don't believe it, then go listen to what Duane was doing in Mussel Shoals when he was doing session work down there.




 
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