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  posted on 1/20/2007 at 11:34 PM
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I don't believe in blaming coaches for the activities of the players. Maybe in high school, but these guys are adults. If you do something illegal, is it your bosses fault? Why should the coach be responsible for the actions of his players?


I didn't say the coaches were responsible for the players.

Read the book.

It details the coaching staffs as well.

Minnesota's coaching staff was just as much involved with the law as the payers were.

Dennis Green included.




 

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  posted on 1/20/2007 at 11:35 PM
It also details some of the cover-ups by the front offices to protect the players.
 

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  posted on 1/20/2007 at 11:36 PM
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Dennis Green included.



I'm just happy they didnt hire HIM

 

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  posted on 1/20/2007 at 11:39 PM
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It also details some of the cover-ups by the front offices to protect the players.



Was Tomlin mentioned? Dennis Green was a first class jerk, both in Minnesota and Arizona. I don't think any of his staff is still in Minnesota.


Tomlin was in Tampa prior to this season, according to ESPN..

 

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  posted on 1/20/2007 at 11:42 PM
The book was written in 1998, I believe.

Most is old news, but interesting reading, since the trend to downplay and cover up is still the rule.

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Startling in its breadth, Benedict and Yaeger's investigation into the off-the-field violence and criminal behavior that pervades the culture of professional football is as eye opening as it is disturbing. That these guys get into trouble is nothing new, but when their offenses are collected in one place--with mug shots, court records, police reports, and interviews with arresting officers--the effect is as surreal as the statistics: 21 percent of the NFL's players have been charged with a serious crime.

How serious? The docket begins with assault, rape, and domestic violence and keeps spiraling out of control. These are not just blind allegations; the authors name names and match felonies to players. Some of the better-known examples: Cornelius Bennett--rape and sexual assault; Cortez Kennedy--domestic violence; Michael Irvin--cocaine and marijuana possession; Nate Newton--sexual assault; Warren Moon--domestic violence; Jake Plummer--sexual abuse; Andre Rison--aggravated assault; Bruce Smith--driving under the influence; and Deion Sanders--aggravated assault, disorderly convict, trespassing, and battery.

Yet, as disturbing as the names and numbers are, Benedict and Yaeger's contention, backed by exhaustive research, is even worse: the league pretty much looks away, tacitly condoning the havoc caused by these overpaid, coddled men-children, whose very propensity for unchecked mayhem fills stadiums on Sunday. But, then, in the NFL's view of things, football is the law. Make no mistake about Pros and Cons though; as sensational as much of it is, this is a serious work with serious footnotes compiled by serious journalists, who, in the end, do something the game's establishment has avoided: they offer a detailed "Game Plan" for addressing the issues they raise. It begins with respecting law and imposing order. --Jeff Silverman


[Edited on 1/21/2007 by PhotoDude]

 

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  posted on 1/20/2007 at 11:56 PM
C-ya Otie

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 12:14 AM
Took my boys to Greektown and then the Bulls game. They lost to Utah 95-85, but it was fun. Half the crowd was wearing Illini orange, since Deron Williams and Dee Brown are on Utah. Illinois coach was in the stands. The crowd kept yelling for Dee Brown, but Sloan didn't put him in for some reason.

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 12:15 AM
It's going to be below 30 and snowing for the game tomorrow - GO BEARS!

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 09:43 AM
Sang, have you been clubbing?

Is there a secret life the MT doesn't know about?

I found this listing for the Metro's downstairs dance club:

Thursday, January 18

Reverse presents Sangageddon IV: A birthday jam for Sang...
AFRIKA BAMBAATAA
STEINSKI
DAEDELUS (LIVE)
INTEL
MAKER
SKOR
Tickets: $15
21 & over
Doors: 10pm / Show: 10pm


http://metrochicago.com/shows/

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 09:52 AM
The Metro had lots of great shows, but I understand the Smartbar tends to attract the . . . ahem . . . disco boys and girls.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 01:48 PM
Forecast yesterday was for 2-4" of snow which means....prepare for 8-12", which is what we got. Shovelling all morning. First mine, then across town to the M-I-L.

Kinda like NO and Indy today, which means.....















......bet the farm on the other teams.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 02:59 PM
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Go Bears.

Please God, give us good Grossman today.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 04:38 PM
Pretty good first half, except that last series......cmon defense, get it back together....

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 05:59 PM
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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 06:00 PM
The Bear D is nasty!
 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 06:02 PM
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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 06:13 PM
Someone's going to the Superbowl, and I thinks it's us!

Woo-hoo!

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 06:19 PM
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With the defensive showing the Bears had today, a little bit of good Grossman was all we needed.

[Edited on 1/21/2007 by aekdbmoid]

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 06:21 PM
yawn

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 06:34 PM
blah, blah, blah


 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 08:11 PM
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your Colts better step it up

 

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  posted on 1/21/2007 at 08:32 PM
Took the Aints...oops....

Chickened out on the Colts, took the over 46 instead. Let's hope the usual Colts D plays the second half.

 

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