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  posted on 12/31/2006 at 01:05 PM
Just bought layla and other assorted love songs and it is an amazingly rockin album....Wow!! But you will have to excuse my ignorance I'm a fairly new fan. Is Duane playing in the left or right side? Thanks
 
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  posted on 12/31/2006 at 03:44 PM
Hi, Warrenfan! I don't want to take off the Jimi tape I have playing, so I'm not sure about who's on which side. I will give you these clues to get you started, though (especially listen to numbers 7 and 10 for the best side-by-side comparisons, where Duane and Eric trade solos one after the other):

1. "I Looked Away": All Eric, no Duane
2. "Bell Bottom Blues": same
3. "Keep On Growing": same
4. "Nobody Knows You": Duane on slide
5. "I Am Yours": same
6. "Anyday": Duane slide plus fills and solo
7. "Key to the Highway": Duane on slide, Eric on "regular"--nice contrasts
. . .
10. "Have You Ever Loved a Woman": same as 7--nice contrasts
etc.

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  posted on 12/31/2006 at 05:36 PM
I think that "Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad?" is one of the best dual guitars songs of all time. (Of course with nods to Duan and Dickey on ABB Live at the Filmore.) I can listen to that one song all day. I just listened to it again and from what I can tell, it's Eric doing the fills and starting the first solo. Duane joins in the first solo at 1:40. After solo, Eric again doing fills and starts second solo, joined again by Duane at 3:04, mostly playing around Eric's lead. Then they both finish it up.

 

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  posted on 12/31/2006 at 06:19 PM
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I think that "Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad?" is one of the best dual guitars songs of all time. (Of course with nods to Duan and Dickey on ABB Live at the Filmore.) I can listen to that one song all day. I just listened to it again and from what I can tell, it's Eric doing the fills and starting the first solo. Duane joins in the first solo at 1:40. After solo, Eric again doing fills and starts second solo, joined again by Duane at 3:04, mostly playing around Eric's lead. Then they both finish it up.



Mike, many, including me, believe it's the other way round. There's a discussion about possible guitarswapping on that track, somewhere here.

 

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  posted on 12/31/2006 at 06:52 PM
Hey, thanks for the info. I heard a strat and assumed it was Eric. I did a quick search and I see what you mean about the theory of guitar swapping. I did hear quite awhile ago that Eric was playing some slide on a song or two on the album.

I just read a review of the new book on the making of Layla, and supposedly very few pages devoted to the recording sessions unfortanately. I would love to know more. I guess, Eric's not saying much. And Whitlock was only source for the book.
I will go back, read the threads, and re-listen to song.
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  posted on 1/1/2007 at 03:15 PM
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Hi, Warrenfan! I don't want to take off the Jimi tape I have playing, so I'm not sure about who's on which side. I will give you these clues to get you started, though (especially listen to numbers 7 and 10 for the best side-by-side comparisons, where Duane and Eric trade solos one after the other):

1. "I Looked Away": All Eric, no Duane
2. "Bell Bottom Blues": same
3. "Keep On Growing": samektth
4. "Nobody Knows You": Duane on slide
5. "I Am Yours": same
6. "Anyday": Duane slide plus fills and solo
7. "Key to the Highway": Duane on slide, Eric on "regular"--nice contrasts
. . .
10. "Have You Ever Loved a Woman": same as 7--nice contrasts
etc.

Enjoy!



thanks for the heads up I'll be sure to give it a closer listen next time. Some serious playing on the whole album. Seems like the guitar is much more up front on KTTH and HYELAW then on other ones. I assume that would be the slide. I guess I'm an idiot if I can't tell the difference...

 

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  posted on 1/1/2007 at 04:13 PM
For WDLGTBSS...
Eric starts the song off (plays the chords) and Duane plays all the fills. Duane also does the first solo and at 1:39, Eric joins in. Duane also plays the solo at 2:30 and on until around 3 minutes, Eric comes in.

So basically Duane is on the left and Eric is on the right

[Edited on 1/1/2007 by tornadothrasher]

 

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  posted on 1/2/2007 at 11:28 AM
You're welcome, Warrenfan!
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thanks for the heads up I'll be sure to give it a closer listen next time. Some serious playing on the whole album.
Great guitar album!
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Seems like the guitar is much more up front on KTTH and HYELAW then on other ones. I assume that would be the slide.
Here's the verse-by-verse (and instrumental chorus-by-chorus) breakdown of "Have You Ever Loved a Woman":

1. Eric instrumental opening; Eric's on "regular" Strat throughout the song
2. Eric vocal verse 1, guitar fills between vocal lines
3. Eric vocal verse 2, guitar fills
4. Duane slide instrumental 1; Eric guitar chords (and shouts), prominent chorus turnaround lickage
5. Duane slide instrumental 2; Eric guitar chords and fills, turnaround revving up for next
6. Eric guitar solo 1; Duane barely noticeable chords but a bit more prominent on turnaround
7. Eric guitar solo 2, switches to more trebly tone on second phrase
8. Eric vocal verse 3, guitar fills; Duane slide prominent on ending

Then the next song is "Little Wing," and Duane's playing regular guitar (including all the fills and solos), while Eric mostly plays broken chords under him as rhythm.
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I guess I'm an idiot if I can't tell the difference...
No, don't say that! Everybody starts out somewhere. When I first got into Duane, I thought this "slide guitar" I read on the album credits was referring to a completely different instrument.

I went down to a music store and was staring at all the guitars on the wall, trying to figure out whether any was a slide guitar. The salesman came over and asked whether he could help me. I asked him whether they had any slide guitars I could see. He smiled at my innocence and kindly explained that slide guitar was just a style of playing any guitar with a tube or something on a finger.

This made my eventual purchase of a "slide guitar" a much easier expenditure than I was thinking.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2007 at 06:53 PM
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I went down to a music store and was staring at all the guitars on the wall, trying to figure out whether any was a slide guitar. The salesman came over and asked whether he could help me. I asked him whether they had any slide guitars I could see. He smiled at my innocence and kindly explained that slide guitar was just a style of playing any guitar with a tube or something on a finger.


I have been walking down the street with my gig bag and been asked, "Is that a lead guitar or a rhythm guitar ?"
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  posted on 1/2/2007 at 08:36 PM
The '20th Anniv. Layla Sessons' box set had the sheets ( what do you call those things?) for each song that had written ( In Tom Dowd's hand ?) who did what, when. The three CD set also has an alt. version of the Layla album and a Jam CD with D&D playing on some tunes with the ABB minus Jaimoe.

Go to youtube.com and enter D&TD to see them playing with Johnny Cash and Carl Perkins.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2007 at 08:46 PM
warrenfan - glad you've discovered the beauty of Layla. this has got to be one of my all time favorite albums (and now, cd's)

 

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  posted on 1/2/2007 at 09:09 PM
thanks....considering I'm only 31, Alot of people my age could care less about classic rock.
Luckily most of my cds came out before I was born..ha! Well except for mule and dtb of course

 

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  posted on 1/4/2007 at 12:38 AM
I really like the Layla anniversary box set. I think Duane's playing is more up front than the original version.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2007 at 07:07 AM
I'm not sure if I've lost the booklet that came with the Layla box set or if, in trying to save a couple of bucks and buying it used, I never got it, but . . .
I don't have it.
Very frustrating
If someone who has this booklet could send me a copy, I'd really appreciate it.
I have much music to trade if that helps.

 

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  posted on 1/5/2007 at 07:58 AM
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  posted on 1/5/2007 at 11:58 AM
Thanks Bob

 

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  posted on 1/7/2007 at 10:33 PM
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Hi, Warrenfan! I don't want to take off the Jimi tape I have playing, so I'm not sure about who's on which side. I will give you these clues to get you started, though (especially listen to numbers 7 and 10 for the best side-by-side comparisons, where Duane and Eric trade solos one after the other):

1. "I Looked Away": All Eric, no Duane
2. "Bell Bottom Blues": same
3. "Keep On Growing": same
4. "Nobody Knows You": Duane on slide
5. "I Am Yours": same
6. "Anyday": Duane slide plus fills and solo
7. "Key to the Highway": Duane on slide, Eric on "regular"--nice contrasts
. . .
10. "Have You Ever Loved a Woman": same as 7--nice contrasts
etc.

Enjoy!


Is Duane really not on "Keep On Growing"? If not, that is certainly a lot of guitar overdubs by ol' Slowhand. At any rate, regardless of whether or not Duane is on the track, I really like it. But still, interesting to see know if that is in fact true...

 

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Hi, Warrenfan! I don't want to take off the Jimi tape I have playing, so I'm not sure about who's on which side. I will give you these clues to get you started, though (especially listen to numbers 7 and 10 for the best side-by-side comparisons, where Duane and Eric trade solos one after the other):

1. "I Looked Away": All Eric, no Duane
2. "Bell Bottom Blues": same
3. "Keep On Growing": same
4. "Nobody Knows You": Duane on slide
5. "I Am Yours": same
6. "Anyday": Duane slide plus fills and solo
7. "Key to the Highway": Duane on slide, Eric on "regular"--nice contrasts
. . .
10. "Have You Ever Loved a Woman": same as 7--nice contrasts
etc.

Enjoy!


Is Duane really not on "Keep On Growing"? If not, that is certainly a lot of guitar overdubs by ol' Slowhand. At any rate, regardless of whether or not Duane is on the track, I really like it. But still, interesting to see know if that is in fact true...


DA apparently isn't on that song according to the CD. Duane's name is crossed out on the master track chart sheet 9/1/70 included with the 20th anniv box set; the second master has 'EC O/D' ('overdubb'?) 9/9/70. Does this mean that DA was removed and replaced by EC's lead? Could a tape of DA on this song still exist?

 

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Is Duane really not on "Keep On Growing"? If not, that is certainly a lot of guitar overdubs by ol' Slowhand. At any rate, regardless of whether or not Duane is on the track, I really like it. But still, interesting to see know if that is in fact true...


DA apparently isn't on that song according to the CD. Duane's name is crossed out on the master track chart sheet 9/1/70 included with the 20th anniv box set; the second master has 'EC O/D' ('overdubb'?) 9/9/70. Does this mean that DA was removed and replaced by EC's lead? Could a tape of DA on this song still exist?


Also Bobby Whitlock is stating Duane defenitely isn't on that track.

Talking about the album: it has struck me that the first track, I looked away, has remarkly Allmanesque guitar interplay on it. It was recorded before Duane aried on the scene. My private theory is that it was the influence of Tom Dowd, who had worked with the ABB on Idlewild South. Quess we'll never know....



 

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  posted on 1/11/2007 at 01:56 PM
To me the first 3 tracks have always sounded Allmanesque, and I've wondered if he actually played on those songs.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2007 at 03:18 AM
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To me the first 3 tracks have always sounded Allmanesque, and I've wondered if he actually played on those songs.



I can't feel that very much in Bell bottom blues, but the other two, yes.

At the same time, listening to the album and knowing the tracks were recorded in this order, it's like you can hear Duane warming up, feeling more at home and confident. His first modest contribution would be Nobody knows you, then an introvert almost acoustic solo on I am yours, and from there it just keeps getting better and higher till it reaches the timeless and unbelievable. Wish they had never stopped....




 

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  posted on 1/15/2007 at 11:02 AM
Even without Duane on those first three tracks, I think those three are great songs. But like you all have said, it's nice to listen to the progression that comes as Duane enters the picture and things begin to heat up even more as the two start trading licks and solos.
 





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  posted on 1/15/2007 at 12:09 PM
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Even without Duane on those first three tracks, I think those three are great songs. But like you all have said, it's nice to listen to the progression that comes as Duane enters the picture and things begin to heat up even more as the two start trading licks and solos.

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