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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 04:45 PM
For fun, why not try this:

Based purely on your personal taste, rate all the ABB guitarists from over the years!

Here's mine:
1) Duane Allman
2) Dickey Betts
3) Warren Haynes
4) Jack Pearson
5) Derek Trucks
6) Jimmy Herring
7) Dan Toler

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 04:55 PM
Here's my 2 cents.

1) Duane Allman
2) Dickey Betts
3) Warren Haynes
4) Derek Trucks
5) Jack Pearson
6) Jimmy Herring
7) Dangerous Dan Toler

As a side note, I put Duane first because he brought the band together and was the creative force behind the original line-up. However, Dickey is not so much a number two as he is the next number one. During the original era I dig Dickey's playing just as much as I do Duane's. Sometimes more depending on the song. After Duane died, Dickey was the creative force in the band and brought them to new heights and success. Plus, he has more material to listen to.

As for Warren and Derek, right now I think Warren has a slight lead over Derek, but watch out. Soon, Derek may overtake the great Warren. Hell, Derek might just top the list before it is all said and done.


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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 04:57 PM
Frank, where would you rank Mike Lawler on keytar?
 
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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 05:06 PM
DA
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JP
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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 05:08 PM
1)Duane
2)Dickey
3)*Tie- Derek, Jimmy, Jack
4)*Tie- Warren, Dan
5) David Grissom
6) Zakk
Mike Lawler gets last on any kind of a list.

The ABB has certainly been blessed with great guitarists.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 05:09 PM
I'd rate him right below the Dixie Mafia, and right above Keith England, as most important members of the ABB camp...

 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 05:52 PM
Duane
Dickey/Derek/Jack/Warren/Jimmy
Anybody else

 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 07:20 PM
Duane
Dickey
Jack
Derek(At the rate that Derek is progressing I think he will eventually skip ahead of Jackie P)
Warren/Jimmy
Dan

I hate to see Warren down so low because I do love his playing, but that just shows how many amazing guitarist have played with the Allmans. This doesn't count the intangibles that Warren brings to the band, singing and songwriting, as they can not be overstated. Outside of the original members his is the most important member of the band's history (and future).



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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 08:22 PM
DA
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etc.

in my opinion, the current lineup should be dickey and warren. i think they make the best duo since duane and dickey. no qualms about derek, he has the talent of warren, just not the experience (and vocal chords, of course). benjo.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 08:29 PM
1) Dickey Betts (Singer Songwriter)
2) Warren Haynes (Singer Songwriter)
3) Duane Allman
4) Derek Trucks
5) Dan Toler
6) Jack Pearson (Singer Songwriter)
7) Jimmy Herring


[Edited on 3/5/2003 by phillybob]

 
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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 08:41 PM
Again, a little disappointed nobody said Steven Seagal.

1-10. Duane
11. Dickey
12. Derek
13. Jack
14. Warren
15. Jimmy
16. the Dangerous one


 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 08:51 PM
Based purely on your personal taste, rate all the ABB guitarists from over the years!




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1) Dickey Betts (Singer Songwriter)
2) Warren Haynes (Singer Songwriter)
3) Duane Allman
4) Derek Trucks
5) Dan Toler
6) Jack Pearson (Singer Songwriter)
7) Jimmy Herring
[Edited on 3/5/2003 by phillybob]



Bob, I am completely STUNNED that you have placed Dickey Betts at the top of "YOUR" list. If your personal taste so leans to Dickey, then why are you so hot for Warren? Is it because you feel Dickey is no longer on top of his game?


Dickey Betts
Duane Allman
Dan Toler (sadly the abb albums were so weak)
Warren Haynes (happily the albums were better than the Dan albums)
Jack Pearson
Derek Trucks
Jimmy Herring--- I probably have not heard these shows.



Jack Pearson was Great on Dickey's songs, Blue Sky, Jessica. They sounded great with Jack.

Dan Toler also is Great with Dickey, and on Dickey's songs. Great that they make Dickey's music bright and fun again.


Warren bluesed up Dickey's songs, which I did not care for. Warren is best suited to play with Gregg. Gregg's songs are like a natural outlet for Warren's guitar.


I am unclear as to how Derek sounds, at least alone. I know I like Warren-- to an extent. Derek is still to me, an undefined style. I probably will not give Derek's style a lot of time. I've heard Warren with Dickey. I know how they play. I have heard many Derek and Warren shows. I doubt I am a fan of Derek by himself on guitar, and maybe not with Warren.



Occassionally, I can hear one guitarist coming through, bright and clear. I heard Jack in 1998 at Great Woods. He was Drowning Dickey out, which I did not like, but I did like Jack's sound, maybe not his playing ability, but his tones sounded really good. However, he may be only average on guitar, not a real slinger, certainly no Warren-- who is a slinger.






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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 09:06 PM
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However, [Jack Pearson] may be only average on guitar...

There's nobody everyone likes -- except, around here, for Duane and Dickey -- but I want to say Jack is as skilled and talented and smart a guitarist as the Allman Brothers Band has ever had. Not in the same way as some of the other guitarists; it took many of the fans some time to 'get' him... but his prowess is undeniable in my opinion.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 09:16 PM
Jack Pearson can run circles around Warren.

Take my comment the "right" or "wrong" way.

 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 09:21 PM
I have heard very little, almost nothing of Jack Pearson. So, nobody should make much of my rating of his picking skills. I have not seen or heard much to go on. Certainly, I was not trying to down Jack. I liked his sound, tone, etc. I just have not seen him picking and tearing it up. It would be cool to hear some that sometime.
 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 09:52 PM
Jack Pearson is highly underrated. Unfortunately for myself (and apparently a lot of us here), I have never seen him play and have little in the way of live shows from his period. However when I do listen to his shows I am definitely impressed. Jack was/is a top notch player who would have developed nicely had he stayed with the band. The ABB were not worse for the wear with Jack in the lineup...
 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 09:57 PM
If there was one living guitarist I could take lessons from it would be Jack Pearson, the guy is a friggin genius on the guitar and also an extremely tasteful player. SouthernMan you should take the time to discover Jack you will thank yourself,... or maybe you won't, but I certainly dig him and so did Dickey.
 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 10:08 PM
I love all the pub Jack's getting. His era is my favorite of ALL time. He played so damn well with dickey... i get goose bumps thinkin about it...

So I'll go...

Dickey
Jack
Warren
Duane
all the rest are not my cup of tea

 

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 10:28 PM
1) Dickey & Duane, but for totally different reasons
2) Jack
3) Warren
4) Derek
5) Dan Toler
6) Jimmy Herring

I love the Dixie Mafia comment Frank - had me laughing out loud.

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  posted on 3/4/2003 at 11:54 PM
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I have heard very little, almost nothing of Jack Pearson. So, nobody should make much of my rating of his picking skills. I have not seen or heard much to go on. Certainly, I was not trying to down Jack. I liked his sound, tone, etc. I just have not seen him picking and tearing it up. It would be cool to hear some that sometime.

Just to clarify, that's not what I was trying to do. But I agree with Ryan wholeheartedly-it took time for many of us to get into Jack, but once you get it, it becomes clear he's an amazing player. And I agree 100% with Ryan that if I could take one guitar lesson from anybody around, it'd be Jack Pearson.

 

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  posted on 3/5/2003 at 12:58 AM
All I have left to say at this point, is, that I am VERY pumped up to find some Jack Pearson shows. I even liked that song he did, something like, Everyday? I found Jack to be a bit on the odd side, sort of Northern, and that hat threw me. I don't see that sort of hat down here in the south. He also wore suspenders and so on. I was thinking, man, this dude looks like a guitar playing PLUMBER, but from up north. I thought, his look is a bit on the dorky side. But I WAS impressed with what he was doing. If he had looked differently, it might not have thrown me so much. Just hearing would have been easier than watching. By the way, I had paid to see that show on sattelite feed, and I was taping it, and then that 1998 Great Woods show, the signal was lost, and then I had a half a screen. I could hear it, and I think I taped the entire show, but I didn't have to pay for it. I called the cable company and told them all about it. If I had not, they would have surely billed me anyway, good old money gouging Continental Cablevision. Now we have a new company called Comcast, and people, even the mayor and so on have been bitching publicly about the bad service to the citizens. Lawsuits have been threatened and so on.
 

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  posted on 3/5/2003 at 02:26 AM
Jack actually hails from Murfreesboro, Tennessee. I've never heard him play a note I didn't like, but I'd especially recommend 3/14/98, 3/20/98, and 3/26/99. Almost anything you can find with him on it will have its share of outstanding moments.

 

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  posted on 3/5/2003 at 02:27 AM
The originals Jack did with the ABB were I'm Not Cryin', Weep and Moan, and Everyday. The last two were only done acoustically, I think. He's also the co-author of Sailin' 'Cross the Devil's Sea and Rockin' Horse.

 

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  posted on 3/5/2003 at 06:31 AM
Duane Dickey
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  posted on 3/5/2003 at 01:59 PM
Um, no offense to any of the ABB's guitarists, but Jack is the best of them all... In terms of pure skill and ability, he's the best, bar none (including Duane and Dickey)... Of course, Duane and Dickey had intangibles that set them apart (not just from Jack, but from almost anyone who ever lived), but Jack is the most precise and enthralling guitarist I've ever heard...

Bar none...

 

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