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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 12:36 AM
So I've been waiting for Clapton to come to the N.W. all year & now he is but I'm missing derek by like 3 days!
So is someone taking his place, are the just doing it without him? I heard rumours about J.J. Cale. Anyone know? Will it still be a good show? Thanks,Mike

 
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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 12:43 AM
Dude, I go way back, but thought i missed the"good years" of Clapton.

And am a big Derek Trucks fan, so I bought tix to this tour earlier in the year.

Hoping to see the kid show up the man.

I was pleasantly floored by Clapton.

Yes Derek played his parts and Doyle played his parts, but when Eric takes his parts...you know you are in the presence of historical greatness.

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 01:09 AM
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So I've been waiting for Clapton to come to the N.W. all year & now he is but I'm missing derek by like 3 days!
So is someone taking his place, are the just doing it without him? I heard rumours about J.J. Cale. Anyone know? Will it still be a good show? Thanks,Mike
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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 01:13 AM
I caught Clapton at MSG with Derek and it was special. That being said, I'm sure Eric Clapton will deliver a great show whoever the band members are. I thought I heard that JJ Cale will be sitting in and that in itself could turn out to be something special. Something that everyone else didn't get to see. The material on the new album that Clapton and Cale just released is very good. If I were you I would take the chance. I have seen Clapton about seven times, each time with different bands and every show was great.

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 04:01 AM
Hey Mike, how are ya???? Thanks again for the Woodstock DVD a year or so ago. I am lucky here because from all indications I will catch Trucks last night (3/18) of the tour in San Jose. However, I will side with what others have said here; you will see a great show either way. Doyle Bramhall is an EXCELLENT guitar player...........Clapton toured with him three years ago, I saw it, and it was great. Plus, Robert Cray will still be opening and sitting in on a few tunes. Don't be TOO down about this; you will see an excellent show, and with Bramhall on board Eric won't need to replace Derek. As if you COULD replace Derek.......of course, you can't. As far as J.J. Cale goes, the rumors I've heard is that he will be doing some shows close to his home in San Diego so whether he would make it all the way up to Washington state is very debatable. -Rob in San Jose

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 09:32 AM
Clapton is playing great,doyle is a wonderful guitarist & if J.J.Cale is there--along with a super band---i would most certainly go & have a blast!!

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 09:47 AM
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Yes Derek played his parts and Doyle played his parts, but when Eric takes his parts...you know you are in the presence of historical greatness.


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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 09:49 AM
GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO......ENOUGH SAID
 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 10:25 AM
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Yes Derek played his parts and Doyle played his parts, but when Eric takes his parts...you know you are in the presence of historical greatness.


That's exactly how I felt when seeing him a few months ago. And I brought a friend who has good musical taste but was openly stating he wasn't into Clapton - thought it had been decades since he'd done anything worth listening to. We had third row seats right in front of Eric, so we could see his technique as well as hear. After about three songs, my buddy turns to me and says "man, I was wrong, he still deserves all the credit and praise he gets - he's playing up a storm tonight". Later in the night, he said "you know, unless Jimi or Stevie Ray comes back, it just doesn't get any better than this". And as previously mentioned, you'll get a show with JJ Cale which will be very special. There's only going to be a few of those and I'd love to hear them play some of the tunes from the new release. While Derek shines, he is definately not the center of attention in EC's show. EC's the man - and is playing on this tour (especially with all the old D&D tracks in the set) at a level where he deserves that respect.

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 10:56 AM
I agree with what most have said - GO! When Doyle and Derek took their parts, they were off the charts (especially Derek), but when Eric took his turn he reminded everyone who the master is. Eric is back at the top of his game right now IMO and shouldn't be missed, no matter who he is playing with, and right now he has a top notch band, with or without Derek. This has been one of the best shows I think I have ever seen.
 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 11:09 AM
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I agree with what most have said - GO! When Doyle and Derek took their parts, they were off the charts (especially Derek), but when Eric took his turn he reminded everyone who the master is. Eric is back at the top of his game right now IMO and shouldn't be missed, no matter who he is playing with, and right now he has a top notch band, with or without Derek. This has been one of the best shows I think I have ever seen.


I think EC has always been at the top of his game skills wise. I think the problem has been the material he's played at times.

I might go see him w/wo Derek if he came around here. I just have a hard time paying that kind of $$ for an arena show. I'm spoiled on club & theater shows

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 11:16 AM
I just wish EC with any one in the band would come close enough for me to get to a show!

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 03:07 PM
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So I've been waiting for Clapton to come to the N.W. all year & now he is but I'm missing derek by like 3 days!
So is someone taking his place, are the just doing it without him? I heard rumours about J.J. Cale. Anyone know? Will it still be a good show? Thanks,Mike
Should I bother with Clapton since Derek won't be there??

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Wow, I couldn't agree more. How soon we forget...or, need to know. Man, its that myopic ABB thing again. Think about what the members of the ABB would be saying to you - go and see one of the true greats in Clapton while you got the chance!!! I have seen the best of the best and had 250-plus concerts under my belt before I was 18 years old in the 1970's and kicked in a sh*tlaod since then. For whatever reason, I put off seeing Stevie Ray Vaughan live. Guess what happened..............................

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 04:06 PM
We all love Derek around here and for very good reasons. But think for a minute: by the time EC was Derek's current age, he had played in the Yardbirds, with John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, formed Cream, done studio work with the Beatles, helped create Blind Faith, played with Delany & Bonnie, put together Derek & the Dominoes and created one of the greatest rock albums of all time with Layla (not to mention all the groundbreaking, amazing work with the previously mentioned bands). Is there another living rock musician that can top that record? Is there a bigger rock legend to still be seen and heard?

Yeah, there have been too many releases in the 80's and 90's that lacked the early fire and promise. But on this tour he's back playing mostly his best stuff and doing it with energy and passion. GO!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 04:35 PM
GO, but make sure you have time to see Derek with his band too because that's when you can witness the magic, and it always happens each show. Simply incredible.

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 06:32 PM
Wow, just got home from work & there is some good posts here! I'm thinking that I'm going. I've seen clapton before but it was back in the 80s & I wasn't as into his pop stuff. Sounds like he's kicking ass these days. Only thing is my wifes not too into him so if I go it will be solo. No big deal, I'd never let that stop me from seeing a show I wanted to see. Went to Roger Waters & CSNY solo this year & had a great time!!
 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 08:22 PM
Fujirich: I like a lot of the posts here, but your summary of Clapton's astonishing career up to age 27 really says it all. And says why I can't understand all the criticism of Clapton that has gone on on this website.

I'm 51, and in the 60's as a boy I was just mystified by Cream coming over the airways because even with all the great music being made, they were deeper and heavier than just about anything else out there. And yeah, he's made some poor records since........he's also made some great ones. But it sounds like he's just kicking ass right now! Who doesn't fail some if they do it for 40 years????

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 09:12 PM
Thanks for the kind words robslob. I guess I could have also mentioned that during that same period he also had time to steal George Harrison's wife, had to live with the pressure of the whole "Clapton is God" thing, doing that and all previously mentioned things while consuming all the drugs and booze he could manage. Quite a life by any standard. The fact that he's still here is amazing in it's own right. That he's still playing well and knows how to give an audience a great show is just not to be missed.

I'm with you: any criticsm is short-sighted and undeserved. When you take his career in total, who can match him? And remember; while the blues may have been created here, it was more the Brits than Americans at the time who latched on to those early blues concepts and blended a rock feel to it. Clapton was very much a leader in that movement. A debt is owed to him and his contempories for creating the beginnings of blues/rock sound that so many of us love.

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 09:31 PM
Rob, Rich, I'm in your boat rowing right along side of you two. Clapton is unparalelled. The only musician I can think of that comes close, maybe, is Steve Winwood.
 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 09:51 PM
Clapton will play a smoking show, with or without Derek. Here is the setlist from their latest show (the last one of the tour, and holy sh!t, what a smoker it looks like, why can't we get this in NY )

01. Tell The Truth
02. Key To The Highway
03. Got to Get Better in A Little While
04. Little Wing
05. Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad?

Sit Down Set
06. Rambling On My Mind (EC Solo)
07. Outside Woman Blues
08. Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out
09. Running On Faith

10. Motherless Children
11. Little Queen of Spades
12. Anyday
13. Wonderful Tonight
14. Layla
15. Cocaine

Encore
16. Crossroads

 

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  posted on 12/9/2006 at 11:39 PM
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Clapton will play a smoking show, with or without Derek. Here is the setlist from their latest show (the last one of the tour, and holy sh!t, what a smoker it looks like, why can't we get this in NY )

01. Tell The Truth
02. Key To The Highway
03. Got to Get Better in A Little While
04. Little Wing
05. Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad?

Sit Down Set
06. Rambling On My Mind (EC Solo)
07. Outside Woman Blues
08. Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out
09. Running On Faith

10. Motherless Children
11. Little Queen of Spades
12. Anyday
13. Wonderful Tonight
14. Layla
15. Cocaine

Encore
16. Crossroads


That's pretty close to what we got in Charlotte. Looks like the longer the tour goes on, the more classic D&D stuff he's adding. My dream set for his show would change the following:

Switch out Motherless Children with Presence of the Lord. Although Motherless Children gives EC, Derek, and Doyle a chance to do a great triple slide opening, I'd still love to hear EC rip into the Presence solo.

Take out Wonderful Tonight and play Badge instead. How can we have an EC show without a little Cream...

And finally; replace Cocaine with a riproaring, let it all-hang-out version of Let It Rain. Every time I listen to D&D in concert I'm floored by EC's solos in this song.

Ok - now that we've got this all wrapped up, how about a thread speculating on EC coming to the Beacon run this year.........

 

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  posted on 12/10/2006 at 12:05 AM
Wow, these Clapton setlists are getting better & better. Fact is, he wouldn't be playing these D&tD songs w/out Derek in the band. Maybe some of them, but having Derek, is adding that dimension in a big way. Can't wait until the San Jose show. What a way to set up The Beacon run.


 

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  posted on 12/10/2006 at 01:09 AM
That setlist looks awesome.

Fujirich pretty well covered most of it.

Simply put Clapton is a legend of music and you should never pass up the chance to see him. He has played or been part of some of the best live shows I have seen. Of the big three (Page & Beck), Clapton is by far the most consistant over their careers. I am a huge Zeppelin fan and Beck also. But both disappeared for years on end. Clapton has just kept on ticking.

This years' shows were real good ones. Enjoyed myself immensely.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2006 at 06:32 AM
go...EC is always great live....never know if or when you might get another chance...could be his last tour
 

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  posted on 12/10/2006 at 12:01 PM
Sorry, but let's not start the "may be the last tour" stuff. That's about as believable as David Bowie or The Eagles, because Clapton was saying it 15 years or so ago. If it's Johhny Winter, yeah........he can barely walk out there. Clapton is in excellent health and has been sober for many years.

 

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