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Author: Subject: HELP! Please stop a 500KV power line from going thru my front yard!

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 07:36 AM
....well, not exactly thru my front yard, but too close.

If you feel compelled, you can e-sign a petition here:

http://www.pecva.org/landuse/energy/powerlines/index.php

You can also get better and more detailed info than I have time/space to write here...but basically Dominion Power would like to cut a huge path thru beautiful land to stick a bunch of 150 foot high towers to carry 500 kilovolts of electricity.
They then get to buy cheap, polluting coal based electricity in Ohio, and sell at a great profit on the East coast.

We're not trying to get the line moved into somebody else's area - we don't want it built at all, based on the lack of real need justification from Dominion.

BTW - here's a bit about where Dominion wants to build:



Proposed 500-kV Power Line


Updated 11/17/06
Resources at Risk
The revised Dominion study area encompasses 231,700 acres, including:

83 miles of Scenic Byway

13 miles of the Appalachian Trail, and 72,734 acres visible from the Appalachian Trail

7 major Civil War Battlefields: Aldie, Cedar Creek, Front Royal, Manassas Gap, Middleburg, Thoroughfare Gap, and Upperville. Several are described as the most pristine in the U.S.

17 Historic Sites on the Virginia and National Registers, one of which is a National Historic Landmark

6 Existing Historic Districts covering 13,990 Acres

11 Proposed Historic Districts covering 15,950 Acres

48,000 Acres of Conservation Easements



 
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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 07:40 AM
One more bit of info for context....here's a view of what I'm talking about - Marshall, Virginia where I live....now imagine a huge power line thru this:


 
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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 07:54 AM
a power line through that... that would be so beautiful... how could you possibly protest this... how anti-american... you must be a terrorist... I mean what are you thinking... it's about time you rick folks started buying from us poor folks... it's not like coal polutes or anything... darn gov't workers...

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 07:56 AM
I signed it. Hope they don't get their way.

Peace Jim.



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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 08:02 AM
I do not see what the problem is



In all seriousness I did sign the petition. We have a similar problem in Mass with the Windfarm to be built between the main island of the Cape and the Vineyard. I sure as hell would not want to see this!

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 08:37 AM
Done! Wishing you all the best.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 09:27 AM
done....Good luck jim

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 09:47 AM
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That's good stuff...heh

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 09:56 AM
Jim,

You ain't being a NIMBY are you?

My guess is that Dominion Power won't get their way. Where you live is in the middle of Virginia's "Horse County" and there are quite a number of very wealthy "Horse owners" who have the money and political clout in Richmond and Washington to make sure Dominion Power won't be building towers in that area. Remember they stopped Disney from building in that area.

btw, I signed the petition.





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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 10:02 AM
go get some of these and tell them "we don't need your stinkin power"....
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/06/027228

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 10:25 AM
Good luck to you and your neighbors, Jim - what a sin to mar this beautiful landscape.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 11:36 AM
thanks everyone!

We're trying not to be NIMBYs, the goal being that nobody has to live with a set of new 150 foot towers that might not really be needed.

On the other hand, having the proposed route go thru our little town makes it a lot more personal.

 
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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 11:37 AM
I signed. Good Luck...
 
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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 03:58 PM
Why dont they just bury it.....

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 04:15 PM
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go get some of these ....
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  posted on 12/8/2006 at 08:01 PM
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Why dont they just bury it.....


....or implement peak demand metering, or endorse conservation measures, or obtain cleaner electricity from natural gas fired plants closer to the delivery points...or....the list of alternatives go on and on...

EXCEPT....none of those alternatives provide the same enormous profits as the current Dominion Power plan....

 
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  posted on 12/8/2006 at 08:07 PM
Sorry but I own stock Dominion Power rocks since my old virginia days!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 12/28/2006 at 07:31 AM
Just a bump - and another pea to sign the petition

http://www.pecva.org/landuse/energy/powerlines/index.php

And.....

Ten Serious Problems with Dominion and Allegheny's Proposal:

1) This new power line may not be needed

2) Piecemeal approval of power lines sets bad energy policy

3) It short circuits important federal laws and policies

4) It short circuits important state laws and policies

5) It is at war with local planning and decision making

6) It would deface one of the most protected landscapes in America

7) Virginia's interests have not been properly taken into account

8) Designating a federal corridor in Virginia could derail state energy policy

9) National Environmental Policy Act review has thus far been evaded

10) Undoing open-space and conservation easements would undermine tax policy




 
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  posted on 12/28/2006 at 08:23 AM
Done deal...

You have a beautiful view Jim. Hope it stays like that.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2006 at 08:39 AM
I got your back Bro.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2006 at 08:46 AM
Hey Benji - I signed your petition; I live in the country too and can relate to how you must feel. However, I gotta tell you that you're way off base with your statement about the cheap, polluting coal from Ohio. Most of the coal mined in Ohio now is anthracite, which burns cleaner than the bituminous coal that was for years the staple of Ohio's mining industry, not to mention the staple of a lot of people's (including many of my ancestors) liveliehoods where I grew up. So while this coal is less polluting than its predecessor, it is relatively cheap, the low market price it garners being one reason coal mining families where I grew up are having a hard time making ends meet. So when you or anyone else takes a poke at the mining industry, it hits close to home. Needless to say, I don't appreciate it. Good luck with your petition; I hope it all works out favorably for you.

 

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Just a bump - and another pea to sign the petition

http://www.pecva.org/landuse/energy/powerlines/index.php

And.....

Ten Serious Problems with Dominion and Allegheny's Proposal:

1) This new power line may not be needed

2) Piecemeal approval of power lines sets bad energy policy

3) It short circuits important federal laws and policies

4) It short circuits important state laws and policies

5) It is at war with local planning and decision making

6) It would deface one of the most protected landscapes in America

7) Virginia's interests have not been properly taken into account

8) Designating a federal corridor in Virginia could derail state energy policy

9) National Environmental Policy Act review has thus far been evaded

10) Undoing open-space and conservation easements would undermine tax policy







Short circuits?

 

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Hey Benji - I signed your petition; I live in the country too and can relate to how you must feel. However, I gotta tell you that you're way off base with your statement about the cheap, polluting coal from Ohio. Most of the coal mined in Ohio now is anthracite, which burns cleaner than the bituminous coal that was for years the staple of Ohio's mining industry, not to mention the staple of a lot of people's (including many of my ancestors) liveliehoods where I grew up. So while this coal is less polluting than its predecessor, it is relatively cheap, the low market price it garners being one reason coal mining families where I grew up are having a hard time making ends meet. So when you or anyone else takes a poke at the mining industry, it hits close to home. Needless to say, I don't appreciate it. Good luck with your petition; I hope it all works out favorably for you.


First - thanks for signing.

Second - I reread my original post, and it does sound like a disregard for the mining industry, and for that I apologize. The entities whose motives are being questioned here are Alleghany and Dominion Electric, not the mining companies or miners.
I'm also perhaps incorrect about the generation plants being in Ohio, since information from the electric compaines involved says:
"economic benefits for West Virginia and Southwestern Pennsylvania, including expanding markets for local coal, more jobs and the potential for new generation projects including clean-coal technologies and renewables, such as wind and hydro."

I could go find environmental maps showing emission levels for various generating plants, but that would counter the effect of my apology....

 
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  posted on 12/28/2006 at 11:09 AM
Apology accepted. Some of the plants are in Ohio (mostly on the Ohio River where W. Va., Pa., and Ohio converge - or to put in geographic terms that you, as an ABB follower will find crystal clear - about 30 minutes from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette Pavillion).

 

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  posted on 12/28/2006 at 01:54 PM
We're in, too!!

 

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