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  posted on 1/7/2007 at 11:16 PM
I think Loretta is a great pickup for the Astros particularly for the price.

What say some of you that have had the chance to watch him more closely the last couple of seasons?

 

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  posted on 1/8/2007 at 07:54 AM
Arizona and R. Johnson agree on 26 million for 2 years. Needs to pass Physical and this one is done

Yankees pay 2 million and get reliever Luis Vizcaino, minor league right-handers Ross Ohlendorf and Steven Jackson, and minor league shortstop Alberto Gonzalez.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2723531

 

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  posted on 1/8/2007 at 08:31 AM
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Needs to pass Physical and this one is done



Hopefully they have a pretty low threshold for passing, considering all the back and knee problems he's had. Or maybe it will be just a "turn your head and cough" type of physical.

 

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  posted on 1/8/2007 at 08:34 AM
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I think Loretta is a great pickup for the Astros particularly for the price.

What say some of you that have had the chance to watch him more closely the last couple of seasons?


He's solid. Nothing flashy, but he's solid defensively and swings a good bat.

 

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  posted on 1/8/2007 at 09:01 AM
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Needs to pass Physical and this one is done



Hopefully they have a pretty low threshold for passing, considering all the back and knee problems he's had. Or maybe it will be just a "turn your head and cough" type of physical.


Just make sure he has a pulse.

 

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  posted on 1/8/2007 at 09:38 AM
Forgot the HOF announcement is tommorow

Congrats in advance to Ripken and Gwynn


Maybe this is the year for Donnie Baseball??



Nope

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  posted on 1/8/2007 at 10:21 AM
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Loretta is a good player, good bat, average to better than average glove depending on where you play him. I guess Houston is going to use him as a utility player, which at this point in his career is perfect. He will be a great fill in and if a starter goes down, he won't hurt the team.


The plan is to use him as a "super-utility" player. He turned down several other offers because he wanted (a) playing time and (b) to play for someone that had a chance to win this year.

Seems like the plan is to leave Burke in center all year (barring a trade acquisition) and give Loretta 140+ games at 2nd, 3rd and SS. They need the flexibility with Biggio's skills declining, Ensburg/Lamb a big question at 3rd and Everett struggling to hit his weight.

As for the 'stros having a chance to win this year there are still a lot of pieces of the puzzle that have to come together to make that happen.

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  posted on 1/8/2007 at 01:23 PM
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Maybe this is the year for Donnie Baseball??








You made a funny!

 

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  posted on 1/8/2007 at 02:55 PM
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Loretta is a good player, good bat, average to better than average glove depending on where you play him. I guess Houston is going to use him as a utility player, which at this point in his career is perfect. He will be a great fill in and if a starter goes down, he won't hurt the team.


The plan is to use him as a "super-utility" player. He turned down several other offers because he wanted (a) playing time and (b) to play for someone that had a chance to win this year.

Seems like the plan is to leave Burke in center all year (barring a trade acquisition) and give Loretta 140+ games at 2nd, 3rd and SS. They need the flexibility with Biggio's skills declining, Ensburg/Lamb a big question at 3rd and Everett struggling to hit his weight.

As for the 'stros having a chance to win this year there are still a lot of pieces of the puzzle that have to come together to make that happen.

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Congrats in advance to Ripken and Gwynn

Two true greats of our time.


Loretta's range isn't fantastic...... I would expect to see him very little over at SS. They may use him at 1B too.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2007 at 12:21 AM
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Loretta's range isn't fantastic...... I would expect to see him very little over at SS. They may use him at 1B too.

I tend to agree about SS. Everett may not hit much but he is a defensive gem.

I hope they are setting up a trade of Ensburg for a (#3?) pitcher and Loretta will play 3rd. Or maybe they are planning on letting Loretta play 2nd after Biggio gets #3000.

I hope they don't have to use him much at first because that means either Berkman is hurt or they are forced to move him (out of position) to the outfield.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2007 at 07:08 AM
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Congrats in advance to Ripken and Gwynn

Two true greats of our time.




Hope Goose Goosage gets in.

Read a great article on espn yesterday (cant find it to post link) about the steroid issue. It said why guys like McGwire and Bonds should be in the HOF. He went on to say the people should vote for them even if he is uncomfortable with voting them in but will.

He said they are the best players of their era. He says we know they did it! They were caught. He said how do we know more didnt juice. You cant say who is guilty and not guilty because you think they did or didnt. He went on to say plenty of people were juicing but weren't caught.

I will try to find the link and post it. I dont do it justice.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2007 at 07:12 AM
Here it is. It is called Uncomfortable vote for McGwire.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hof07/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&am p;id=2724114

 

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  posted on 1/9/2007 at 04:41 PM
Orioles shortstop Cal Ripken Jr. (98.5 percent of the vote) and Padres outfielder Tony Gwynn have been elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame, it was announced today. Controversial Cardinals slugger Mark McGwire and Red Sox great Jim Rice each fell short. Rice received 63.5 percent of the vote (75 percent is needed for induction).

Sooooo, how do we find out exactly which voters left Ripken off their ballots? They should be stripped of their voting rights. Un-effing-believable.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2007 at 08:02 PM
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Orioles shortstop Cal Ripken Jr. (98.5 percent of the vote) and Padres outfielder Tony Gwynn have been elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame, it was announced today. Controversial Cardinals slugger Mark McGwire and Red Sox great Jim Rice each fell short. Rice received 63.5 percent of the vote (75 percent is needed for induction).

Sooooo, how do we find out exactly which voters left Ripken off their ballots? They should be stripped of their voting rights. Un-effing-believable.


One of the voters was a jerk by the name of Paul Ladewski, a columnist for The Daily Southtown (whatever that is; obviously don't need credentials to vote, just write for your student newspaper ) who claimed he turned in a blank ballot because he questions anyone that played (plays) during the steriod era. This makes no ''effin' sense. If he felt that way he shoulda just declined to vote, or just vote for guys like Rice & Mattingly. One dipsh!t identified, 7 to go. There was one other blank ballot submitted also.

Ripken & Gwynn are two of the classiest guys to put on the uniform. Played their whole careers with just one team. A rarity these days, even during their day. Nice to know some of the good guys finish first.

BTW, McGwire got 128 votes out of 545 or 23.5, so there is some sanity among most voters. Wonder how long it lasts?

[Edited on 1/10/2007 by crossroad_blues]

 

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  posted on 1/9/2007 at 09:37 PM
Ok so this is from ESPN insider about Johan Santana....... the guy is playing ball for 12 million this season

interesting read on the twins situation though:

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Jan 9 - The Twins' chances of retaining Johan Santana when he becomes eligible for free agency following the 2008 season are bleak because of financial reasons, and trading him might not be easy because of a no-trade clause in his contract, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports.

Being among the top three vote getters for the 2006 Cy Young Award triggered a no-trade provision for Santana for 2007. Had he not been among the top three, Santana had the right, by contract, to choose 12 teams to which he could be traded. Now, Santana cannot be traded to any team in 2007 without his approval.

His price tag could reach $20 million a year on the open market after the 2008 season. The Twins probably wouldn't want to wait until 2008 to trade him, though, if they determined they wouldn't be able to afford him after that season. By waiting, Santana's trade value could diminish.

Santana, 27, is signed for $12 million this year and $13.25 in 2008.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2007 at 12:42 AM
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Sooooo, how do we find out exactly which voters left Ripken off their ballots? They should be stripped of their voting rights. Un-effing-believable.


Unreal. And who didnt vote for Gwynn??

I do see that Goose got a little bit closer, a little bit every year.

Maybe next year is the year

 

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  posted on 1/10/2007 at 08:04 AM
Wow! How can you leave off those two! I can understand the blank sheet for a statement but you could have put those two on there.

I wonder where Santana would like to pitch? You know they are going to try and trade him after this year. Maybe sooner if they dont contend. HMM! Maybe the Yankees are stocking up to make a play for Santana

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Sooooo, how do we find out exactly which voters left Ripken off their ballots? They should be stripped of their voting rights. Un-effing-believable.


Unreal. And who didnt vote for Gwynn??

I do see that Goose got a little bit closer, a little bit every year.

Maybe next year is the year



 

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  posted on 1/10/2007 at 08:23 AM
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Why do Yankee fans always assume that when a big name player becomes available that 1.) The Yankees are going to get him

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2.) The guy wants to be a Yankee?



...because big name players make the most money and the Yankees have the most money?

Whether or not the player 'wants' to be a Yankee is usually negated by the fact that the player wants the most money.

At this point the player and/or agent will then go on to profess that it's 'not about the money' which confirms that it is indeed about the money.

 

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Why do Yankee fans always assume that when a big name player becomes available that 1.) The Yankees are going to get him

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2.) The guy wants to be a Yankee?


Ain't no harm in asking about a player

I am happy with the team as is. They have acquired a lot of young talent this off season.
I just hope they give them a chance to perform.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2007 at 11:43 AM
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I do see that Goose got a little bit closer, a little bit every year.

Maybe next year is the year

One can only hope so.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2007 at 12:15 PM
On the subject of voting percentages, I don't think it's any grave injustice that a lifetime .276 hitter who never won a World Series had a handful of No votes...especially when you look at some other HOF percentages over the years:

CAL RIPKEN 98.53%
BABE RUTH 95.13%
WILLIE MAYS 94.68%
TED WILLIAMS 93.38%
JOE DIMAGGIO 88.84%
WARREN SPAHN 82.89%

I mean... who exactly was unconvinced by the Babe's credentials? Or the 24-year career of the greatest lefty pitcher ever? Or Joe D or the last man to hit .400? It's mind-boggling to imagine what went through the heads of the a-holes who took a pass on these great players.

Unfortunately, it's easier to guess what motivated the 22.50% of the sportswriters who voted AGAINST Jackie Robinson getting in.


[Edited on 1/10/2007 by ThePeteMan]

 

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  posted on 1/10/2007 at 03:56 PM
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Wow! How can you leave off those two! I can understand the blank sheet for a statement but you could have put those two on there.

I wonder where Santana would like to pitch? You know they are going to try and trade him after this year. Maybe sooner if they dont contend. HMM! Maybe the Yankees are stocking up to make a play for Santana

I know you would like that trade Chuck!


Come on Rob......... a lefty in the new Yankee stadium? I don't know..... something tells me it wouldn't work.

 

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Wow! How can you leave off those two! I can understand the blank sheet for a statement but you could have put those two on there.

I wonder where Santana would like to pitch? You know they are going to try and trade him after this year. Maybe sooner if they dont contend. HMM! Maybe the Yankees are stocking up to make a play for Santana

I know you would like that trade Chuck!


Come on Rob......... a lefty in the new Yankee stadium? I don't know..... something tells me it wouldn't work.


Sure, bring THAT up

 

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Wow! How can you leave off those two! I can understand the blank sheet for a statement but you could have put those two on there.

I wonder where Santana would like to pitch? You know they are going to try and trade him after this year. Maybe sooner if they dont contend. HMM! Maybe the Yankees are stocking up to make a play for Santana

I know you would like that trade Chuck!


Come on Rob......... a lefty in the new Yankee stadium? I don't know..... something tells me it wouldn't work.


Sure, bring THAT up


I'm suprised you guys are going to miss something so much that resembles a toilet seat from above.

 

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