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  posted on 12/5/2006 at 09:59 AM
With the success of "Show of the Day" thread I thought it right to provide a jazz place for people to sit and enjoy. People I have met and spoken to here really enjoy jazz music. From the Allmans to Derek, jazz has been a big influence on not only them but the rest of Rock and Roll. I would like to see this be a discussion place for people who enjoy jazz. To provide guidence for people new to jazz. To help them find artists, which albums you like, any new players in the scene.... etc. Lastly how you go into jazz would be cool too.

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Coltrane Liederhalle, Stuttgart, Nov. 4, 1963
Coltrane Liederhalle, Stuttgart, Nov. 4, 1963 continued
Coltrane Copenhagen, Denmark Oct. 25, 1963
Miles Davis Quintet 1963-09-20 County Fairgrounds, Monterey CA
Thelonious Monk Quartet Sartory, Cologne, Germany December 2, 1969
MILES DAVIS April 12, 1970 Fillmore West Auditorium San Francisco, CA
Charles Mingus 4-14-1964 Odd Fellow PalŠet Copenhagen Denmark
Miles Davis All Stars Live in 1958-59 - Featuring John Coltrane
Thelonious Monk Quintet August 27, 1960 Connie Mack Park Philadelphia, PA
Dizzy Gillespie Big Band North Sea Jazz 1979


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Branford Marsalis Quartet 2001.02.01
Freddie Hubbard 11/06/87 Berlin, Germany
Jaco Pastorious with Word Of Mouth Koseinenkin Hall, Tokyo, Japan May 22, 1983
The Thelonious Monk Quartet March 20, 1966 Paris France
CHARLES MINGUS Concerts at Newport - 1956, 1959, 1971
JOHN COLTRANE Rarities 56/62/63
Miles Davis Quintet April 9, 1960 'Jazz At The Philharmonic', 'Kurhaus', Scheveningen, Holland
McCoy Tyner Quartet 2002-06-07 Barbican Centre London, England
McCoy Tyner Trio Estival Jazz Piazza Della Riforma Lugano, Switzerland July 3, 1985
Fillmore East New York, NY 03/07/1970
November 20, 1962 Kulttuuritalo, Helsinki
1986-07-13 Festival de Jazz Nice-France
McCoy Tyner Quartet 12/28/06 Yoshi's, Oakland, CA
Miles Davis November 5, 1969 Folkets Hus Stockholm Sweden
Miles Davis Quintet 1963-09-20 County Fairgrounds, Monterey CA
Miles Davis 1970/08/18 Berkshire Music Center, Tanglewood MA


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Miles Davis 17 October 1973 Jazz Workshop, Boston MA
Miles Davis - Teatro Tenda Pianeta, Rome, April 26th 1982
Charles Mingus Buenos Aires - June 3, 1977
Miles Davis Quintet with John Coltrane Peacock Alley St. Louis, MO Feb. 16, 1957
Feb. 23, 1957
McCoy Tyner & Elvin Jones Jazzsummit Wiesen Wiesen, Austria July 17, 1982
Earl Klugh Videos
John Coltrane 08/01/65 TVB, Comblain-La-Tour, Belgium
Branford Marsalis Quartet Vault 350 Long Beach, CA 01/27/07
Dizzy Gillespie - Jam 1978-July-07
Dizzy Gillespie 3-25-1987
Ornette Coleman And Prime Time Estival Jazz Piazza Della Riforma, Lugano, Switzerland
4. July 1991
John Coltrane Live Underground Series Parts 1,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,
Miles Davis August 27-1986 Chautaqua, NY Chautaqua Institution Amphitheater


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Ornette Coleman 2005-04-22 Minneapolis University of Minnesota
Dave Brubeck Quartet September 17, 2006 Monterey Jazz Festival, Monterey, Ca.
Miles Davis July 6, 1970 Schaefer Music Festival in the Park Wollman Rink, Central Park,
Miles Davis Quintet 3 November 1969 @ Salle Pleyel, Paris
The Mingus Dynasty Band Jazz Festival Willisau, Switzerland 2-Sep 2006
Miles Davis 1986-07-20 Festival de Jazz Nice-France
Miles Davis Fillmore West - San Francisco April 9th, 1970
Thelonius Monk & "Giants of Jazz" Recorded Live in Praque/Czechoslovakia, October 30, 1971
Thelonius Monk videos
Thelonious Monk: Straight, No Chaser DVD all 10 chapters
Miles Davis Bitches Brew
John Coltrane w/ Wynton Kelly Trio
Miles Davis SEVEN STEPS TO HEAVEN 1963
Charles Mingus - Flowers For A Lady (1974)
Charles Mingus Triumph of the Underdog DVD all chapters
Charles Mingus Sextet - Live in Norway, 1964 Part 1

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Charles Mingus Sextet - Live in Norway, 1964 Part 2
Charles Mingus Sextet - Live in Norway, 1964 Part 3
Charles Mingus Sextet - Live in Norway, 1964 Part 4
Charles Mingus Sextet - Live in Norway, 1964 Part 5
Charles Mingus Sextet - Live in Norway, 1964 Part 6
Charles Mingus Sextet - Live in Norway, 1964 Part 7
Charlie Parker & Dizzy Gillespie- (Hot House)
Charlie Parker - Celebrity (1950)
T-Bone Walker & Dizzy Gillespie - She's My Old Time Used
Dizzy Gillespie - trumpet battle 1958
John Coltrane - My Favorite Things - 1961
Miles Davis & John Coltrane- SO WHAT
John Coltrane Quartet - Afro Blue
Tortoise (Live at Werchter) 30 Mins
Tortoise @ The Independent, San Francisco, CA June 22, 2007
Thelonious Monk Quartet @ Radio Bremen Bremen, Germany March 8, 1965
Charles Mingus @ Keystone Korner, San Francisco May 1976
Weather Report @Hill Auditorium in Ann Arbor, MI April 16, 1976
Weather Report @ Shinjuku Kouseinenkin Hall, Tokyo, Japan 1978/06/28


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Weather Report @ Tower Theater Philadelphia, Pa. April 24, 1976
Miles Davis @ Fillmore East,NY March 6, 1970
Miles Davis @ Fillmore West - San Francisco April 9th, 1970
Miles Davis Quintet @ Salle Pleyel, Paris 3 November 1969
Charles Mingus Quintet @ La Spezia, Italy, 27.July 1975
DAVE BRUBECK QUARTET @ Live at GrugaHalle in Essen/Germany, 1960-04-02
Dizzy Gillespie September, 1982 The 25th Monterey Festival, Monterey, CA
Thelonious Monk @ Philharmonic Hall in NYC July 3, 1975







http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/coltrane-LiveTraneUnderground-d11.asx

Liederhalle, Stuttgart, Nov. 4, 1963
1. The Promise (7:32)
2. Afro Blue (6:48)
3. I Want to Talk About You (10:42)
4. Impressions (28:52)

John Coltrane (soprano sax, tenor sax)
McCoy Tyner (piano)
Jimmy Garrison (bass)
Elvin Jones (drums).


http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/coltrane-LiveTraneUnderground-d12.asx

Liederhalle, Stuttgart, Nov. 4, 1963--continued
1. My Favorite Things (18:51)
2. Every Time We Say Goodbye (6:11)
3. Mr. P.C. (35:52)

John Coltrane (soprano sax, tenor sax)
McCoy Tyner (piano)
Jimmy Garrison (bass)
Elvin Jones (drums)


http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/coltrane-LiveTraneUnderground-disc10.asx

Tivoli Koncertsal
Copenhagen, Denmark
Oct. 25, 1963--continued

1. Impressions (19:27--incomplete)
2. The Promise (10:01)
3. Afro Blue (8:43)
4. Naima (7:46)
5. My Favorite Things (17:15)

John Coltrane (tenor sax, soprano sax)
McCoy Tyner (piano)
Jimmy Garrison (bass)
Elvin Jones (drums)





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  posted on 12/5/2006 at 10:48 AM
WOW, this is terrific!! Nice job!!

 

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http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/MilesDavis1963-09-20.asx


Miles Davis Quintet
1963-09-20
County Fairgrounds, Monterey CA
Soundboard recording

Band:
Miles Davis (tpt)
George Coleman (ts)
Herbie Hancock (p)
Ron Carter (b)
Tony Williams (d)

1 Intro 9:16
2 Autumn Leaves (J. Prevert-J. Mercer-J. Kosma) 11:11
3 So What (M. Davis) 11:15
4 Stella by Starlight (N. Washington-V. Young) 14:15
5 Walkin' (R. Carpenter) 12:36
6 The Theme (M. Davis) (with applause) 1:18

TT 50:46

 

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  posted on 12/5/2006 at 12:15 PM
Great idea Eric!

 

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  posted on 12/5/2006 at 01:41 PM
Thanks for starting this thread. I am relatively new to Jazz (1.5 years) and I can't really get much exposure to newwer atists with the exception of Medeski Martin Wood and John Scofield (who really isn't new) and Charlie Hunter. I love mining into the past and buying those Blue Note re-issues and stuff. I started, strangely enough, with Miles' Bitches Brew as I was coming from Hard Rock/Metal so I concentrated on the Electric Period. I have worked backwards since.... I really am getting into some of the guitar players too such as Kenny Burrell (Midnight Blue) and Grant Green. Those two mentioned in parenthesis are nice, mellow, bluesy jazz records for people interested. Not to jump all over the place, but for people who like Miles' Kind of Blue, try Somethin' Else by Cannonball Adderly, which has Miles on it.

Great thread and I hope to learn a few things about some newer artists.

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  posted on 12/5/2006 at 01:53 PM
Great stuff-thanks No1
 

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http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/TheloniousMonk1969-12-02.asx



Thelonious Monk Quartet
Sartory, Cologne, Germany
December 2, 1969

Thelonious Monk (p)
Charlie Rouse (ts)
Nate Hygelund (b)
Austin "Paris" Wright (d)

1. My Ideal
2. I Mean You
3. Bright Mississippi
4. Straight, No Chaser
5. Epistrophy
6. I Love You (Sweetheart Of My Dreams)
7. Intros
8. Blue Monk
9. Hackensack
10. Light Blue
11. Five Spot Blues
12. Don't Blame Me



 

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  posted on 12/5/2006 at 05:24 PM
Eric--nice to see this --ain't no ABB without these jazz cats--gotta love this!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 12/5/2006 at 07:02 PM
thanks for the great links! its all about the music.... also one of our only "true" art forms. JAZZ ! peace
 

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  posted on 12/6/2006 at 09:13 AM
So much of the better "straight-ahead" jazz out there is from the old masters in the 40's, 50's and 60's. If you want to hear that bebop, freebop style being played now, check out the Dave Holland Quintet or some of Roy Hargrove's stuff. The sax in Holland's band is named Chris Potter, who also leads some of his own projects.
A lot of my tastes in jazz run towards the fusion (a way overused term) of rock, jazz and jam band. A lot of you ABB fans are probably directly familiar with a great proponent of this gumbo of styles, Karl Denson. If you haven't heard him, do yourself a favor. The other contemporary musican that I would urge everyone to check out would be Christian McBride. I first heard of Christian as the bass for Sting's jazz recordings and tours. He has his own quartet who combine the traditional style with a lot of energy, and stir in a lot of rock and jam references. Their recent live album, 3 discs, is incredible. Anyone who loves the improv side of the Bros sound, needs to hear this. The Weather Report cover alone, is worth the price of the album.
That brings me around to a little challenge that I'd like to throw out to everybody reading this. If you had to recommend a few albums to the typical ABB fan, who thinks they might be interested in some jazz, what would they be?
I would say:
Miles Davis- Bitches Brew, Weather Report- Heavy Weather, Return to Forever- Where Have I Known You Before.
Once somebody has grasped these, I think then they can move back to what I view as the essential jazz albums.
John Coltrane- A Love Supreme, Giant Steps, etc
Miles Davis- Kind of Blue, Round About Midnight, Milestones, etc, jeez there are soo many
Anyway, thanks very much to Eric for starting this thread. Great idea.

 

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  posted on 12/6/2006 at 10:39 AM
tedray--i fully agree with your choices---i would just add anything by THELONIOUS MONK & ,to get a jazz ensemble that has a certain relationship to the ABB style,i'd try duke ellington

 

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  posted on 12/6/2006 at 11:12 AM
cool topic. been listening since i was little since mom and dad were playing the records, but in my 20's I really started listening intently thanks to a lil weekend excusion along the coast of FLA. a randomly picked up Kind of Blue tape that we listened to under the moonlight amongst the dunes at the end of a nice day of tripping. the spot is on Amelia Island,FL, now forever known as the Miles Davis Ampitheater.

i'm not sure if starting people off with those long extended tunes is what a new listener will immediately appreciate. kinda hard to stay focused if you're trying to figure it out. I found it interesting to work forward thru the catalog, and appreciate how it built and expanded.

Miles was always several steps ahead of everyone, so his records are a great way to start.

Birth of the Cool - incredible collection of short tunes that have lots of style.

Steamin, Cookin, Walkin, Workin: All great albums from the quintet, you can start to hear the expanding of the tunes.

Kind of Blue - essentially listening for improv fans

In a Silent Way

and on up the ladder and the rungs in-between. I really love his "On the Corner" album also, probably more than Bitches.

Fusion is indeed a worn out term, almost as bad as jambands, it's meaning is lost and some players are lost in it's meaning.

it all changes so much during each of the periods, with all the players throwing in their styles. lots of the complex stuff may turn people off, or even confirm their ideas that it's not for them. go easy on them and let the music grab them.

"jazz" can be found in any style of music, as long as the player has soul.

 

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That brings me around to a little challenge that I'd like to throw out to everybody reading this. If you had to recommend a few albums to the typical ABB fan, who thinks they might be interested in some jazz, what would they be?



Here are my choices in no order

Miles
Kind of Blue
Round Midnight
Seven Steps to Heaven
Miles & Quincy Live at Montreux -great intro by Quincy

Coltrane
Giant Steps
Love Supreme

Thelonious
Live At Newport
Monk in Paris

Charlie Parker
Charlie Parker with Strings: The Master Takes
A Charlie Parker: A Studio Chronicle 1940-1948

King Curtis
Fillmore West



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http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/milesdavis1970-04-12.asx



MILES DAVIS
April 12, 1970
Fillmore West Auditorium
San Francisco, CA

Track List (74:20):
1. It's About That Time - 10:38
2. Directions - 11:58
3. I Fall in Love Too Easily - 1:46
4. Sanctuary - 3:46
5. Footprints - 10:23
6. Agitation - 1:46
7. No Blues - 7:40
8. Bitches Brew - 14:20
9. Spanish Key - 11:11
10. The Theme - 0:46

Source:
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  posted on 12/6/2006 at 11:34 AM
Eric..... this is great some more jazz to add to my collection..... i'll comment when i get the chance to read the whole thread.


BTW, I posted a BnP offer in the trades forum for a Mingus and Brian Blade Fellowship show.

 

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I saw that and was just about to post a Mingus show. So here you go



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Charles Mingus 4-14-1964 Odd Fellow PalŠet Copenhagen Denmark

Sound is A.

The show starts with Mingus talking about being arrested along with the rest of the band earlier in the day.
He was arrested for shoplifting. The first set starts minus Jaki Byard, he was still in police custody, but
he arrives shortly thereafter.

Charles Mingus: bass
Eric Dolphy: alto sax, flute, bass clarinet
Clifford Jordan: tenor sax
Johnny Coles: trumpet
Jaki Byard: piano
Dannie Richmond: drums

Disc 1 (early set):
1. intro 6.28
2. So Long Eric 19.13
3. intro 1.47
4. AT FW USA 4.11
5. intro 1.33
6. Orange Was the Color Of Her Dress, Then Blue Silk 15.12
7. Meditations 22.21

Disc 2 (late set):
1. intro 0.46
2. Ow! 25.36
3. Fables Of Faubus 36.43

 

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  posted on 12/6/2006 at 11:59 AM
Thats classic..... the jazz musicians get arrested and one shows up late for the show.... hahaha

 

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  posted on 12/6/2006 at 07:06 PM
Ahhh yes, King Curtis, good call. Duane loved him, how can you go wrong?

 

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http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/MilesDavisAllStars1958-1959JohnColtrane. asx


Miles Davis All Stars Live in 1958-59 - Featuring John Coltrane

1) Birdland NYC 1959
2) The Spotlight WA 1959
3) Cafe Bohemia NYC 1958
4) Art Ford Jazz Party TV Show 1958

*Birdland, NYC January 3, 1959 on Bandstand USA

Miles Davis tp, John Coltrane ts, Cannonball Adderley as, Red Garland p, Paul Chambers b, Philly Joe Jones dr.

1. Introduction / Bag's Groove 14:25 (mistitled as "Walkin" on the CD)
2. All of you 5:27


* The Spotlight, Washington DC, February 1959

Miles Davis tp, John Coltrane ts, Cannonball Adderley as, Red Garland p, Paul Chambers b, Jimmy Cobb dr.

3. Introduction / Sid's Ahead 9:02
4. Bye Bye Blackbird 6:41
5. Straight No Chaser 3:44


* Cafe Bohemia, Greenwich Village NYC, on Bandstand Mutual Radio, August 1958

Miles Davis tp, John Coltrane ts, Bill Evans p, Paul Chambers b, Philly Joe Jones dr.

6. Introduction / Four 5:01
7. Bye Bye Blackbird 6:50
8. Walkin' 6:27 (mistitled as "No Blues" on the CD)
9. Closing Announcement (Wha Happened) 1:07


* Art Ford Jazz Party TV Show, November 1958

Miles Davis tp, Nat Adderley cnt, Cannonball Adderley as, Bennie Green tb, Gerry Mulligan bs, Red Garland p, Barry Miles dr, Chris Nirobe perc, Candido perc.

10. What Is This Thing Called Love? 12:02

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 09:38 AM
Brendon in the AG section mentioned he was listening to a jazz station in Ca WKKJZ. What would be cool is to provide a list of Jazz Stations that stream. The one Brendon is listening to now does so I will start the list.

http://www.jazzandblues.org/programming/listen/

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 06:29 PM
loving this music---thanks!!

 

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Here is a new one for you!



http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/TheloniousMonk1960-08-27.asx


Thelonious Monk Quintet
August 27, 1960
Connie Mack Park
Philadelphia, PA


Track List (19:07):
1. Anouncement by Mitch Miller - 0:30
2. Evidence - 6:01
3. Anouncement - 0:19
4. Straight, No Chaser - 7:50
5. Rhythm-A-Ning (fades out) / Announcement - 4:27

Musicians:
Steve Lacy - soprano saxophone
Charlie Rouse - tenor saxophone
Thelonious Monk - piano
John Ore - bass
Roy Haynes - drums

Source:
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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 11:06 PM
Thanks, Eric for directing me here. Lots of great shows posted & I'll have to check them out sometime soon.

It's great to have some jazz discussions here. Any other jazz musicians out there? I'm a struggling jazz guitarist. I don't play professionally, but I play weekly (or weakly) with some other guys in a sort of "rehearsal" band. I also play occassional gigs with another guitar player. That's a lot of fun & a great experience, but I'm still working on getting my nerves in check when I perform. I'd consider my playing as competent at this point with plenty of room to improve.

My tastes in jazz run more to the bop/hard bop eras, but I also like some free jazz. I was really into fusion as a teenager, but eventually got so tired of it that I stopped listening to jazz for awhile. I also love blues & spent a lot of years playing acoustic fingerstyle blues. I still love all the old blues guys.

Derek's playing has really been a revelation. He has really developed his own sound. For someone so young he is a very mature musician. I think his playing grew by leaps & bounds in 2006. He has really become a true master. He's the Coltrane of the guitar - very worldly, unique style played with absolute mastery.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2006 at 11:38 PM
a must see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfHtVgM14sM&NR

 

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Track 4 "High Speed Chase" Miles stated that he sat looking out at the traffic in NYC and wrote this. Very upbeat and cool. Good disc to have.

Review
Recorded at Unique Recording, New York, New York.

This is the recording Miles Davis was working on when he checked into the hospital in mid-September of 1991. With his passing on the 28th of September, a major epoch in American music came to a close. Somewhere in the back of his mind he probably knew that he was living on borrowed time, because earlier that summer he'd finally consented to make a nostalgic return to the classic music that emerged from his collaborations with Gil Evans (MILES & QUINCY AT MONTREAUX). But as the contemporary sounds of DOO-BOP indicate, Miles Davis was incapable of sustained backwards glances.

As the rapology of J.R., A.B. Money and Easy Mo Bee on "The Doo-Bop Song," "Blow" and "Fantasy" indicates, Miles and his collaborators were still feeling each other out in terms of themes and context. The raps revolve around hangin' with the legendary Davis--let's dim the lights and get down with my man Miles. In terms of dance tracks, the Afro-Cuban airs of "Blow" make it the most successful, while "Fantasy" re-visits Clyde Stubblefield's much sampled "Funky Drummer" beat--via the "Red Clay" chord changes--with hip-happy results.

But many of the funky arrangements are a bitch, and Miles sounds funky, lyrical and relaxed. "Chocolate Chip" recalls the ancient doo wop and R&B antecedents of modern funk, including a nod to James Brown, while "Duke Booty" presents the modern perspective on funk. And "High Speed Chase" anticipates the current acid jazz fascination with cool blues and boogaloo grooves of the Blue Note and CTI studio styles, as Miles blows bumblebee lines over fatback organ, vibes and a variety of street sounds.



The review mentions Live At Montreux, another good cd



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