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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 11:48 AM
Hey fellow peachheads!
Whats up gang. I was just wondering if any NYC area heads were at any MSG RWaters shows this week? Wanted to know what some of you folks thought. Does it strike anyone else that this cat is waaaaaaaaay out of line and overwhelmed with his "WAY TOO OVER THE TOP" self indulgent politics. Isnt it a lil bit ballsy to just blocks from GZero in week of Sept. 11th come in and spew his wayward propoganda. This "Leaving Lebanon" tune just strikes me as an embarrassment for the poor Mr. waters as his point seems to be some family was once nice to him on a personal visit to Lebanon as a youth (which is fine), but then seems to conclude that the rest of us are just a bunch of fat french fry/pizza eating Americans who are just walking around beating up these beautiful Muslims that we just dont understand. I was just real confused and more so offended by this part of the show. Not to mention the stupid ass pink Graffitied pig. Didnt that thing used to just have a happy face painted on the side of it, man? hahahaha. Whats his deal? Cant he just play the tunes... which by the way all the rest was just phenomenal.
(Damn That chick Carol Kenyon (?) wailed BTW!

Whatever everyones politics are nevermind - but c'mon has this guy just pushed the **** over the line for some of us normal folks who lust want to sit and chill - smoke a fatty or two and just enjoy the sweet sounds of Dark Side of the Moon.

No wonder the "CLASSY" David Gilmour cant get along with him.

Anyone?

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 01:13 PM
I haven't heard his new song, but if it's anything like most of his solo stuff, it ain't worth listenin to.

I had some friends at the show last night at msg. They were pretty disgusted by his antics, and I can't blame them.

I saw RW on the 2000 tour, and it wasn't very good. Straight from the record type of playing, with doyle bramhall on guitar. Didn't do it for me, so I just stay away now.

The new David Gilmore album, and the live stuff I've heard, on the other hand....
He's still got it.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 01:16 PM
He was booed pretty good at PNC during and after that song.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 02:16 PM
Was at PNC show. Thought the song sucked, but not because of the message. He didn't spew any anti-American propaganda, as far as I could hear. He basically said the (Iraq)war is wrong and shameful. I agree completely. My opinion. His opinion. He's an artist and has the right to say whatever the hell he wants. He's just stirring the pot a little. Music and politics have gone hand in hand for about the last 40 years or so. Check it out.
 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 02:34 PM
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Was at PNC show. Thought the song sucked, but not because of the message. He didn't spew any anti-American propaganda, as far as I could hear. He basically said the (Iraq)war is wrong and shameful. I agree completely. My opinion. His opinion. He's an artist and has the right to say whatever the hell he wants. He's just stirring the pot a little. Music and politics have gone hand in hand for about the last 40 years or so. Check it out.


Precisely. Isnt that what I/we, me/you, us/them etc... etc... are doin right here?
Just checkin it all out. Just interested to see how everyone feels and where the line is. Where does "just stiring the pot" cross the line into bein a bonified douchebag?
I/we always find this board a great place to go to discusss these types of issues. Thats props to the people (including yourself) on this board vs. many of the others where folks are just straight out mean. Plus I dont sense the "brotherhood" over with the Floydies that I always have sensed with the "Family" vibe of the typical peachhead. So thanks for the opportunity to exchange quality dialogue over here.

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 03:06 PM
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Was at PNC show. Thought the song sucked, but not because of the message. He didn't spew any anti-American propaganda, as far as I could hear. He basically said the (Iraq)war is wrong and shameful. I agree completely. My opinion. His opinion. He's an artist and has the right to say whatever the hell he wants. He's just stirring the pot a little. Music and politics have gone hand in hand for about the last 40 years or so. Check it out.


I agree with what you said. I didn't like the song, or it's message. Sure say what you (RW)want, you can in the free world.
It's his opinion and my money that gives him the stage for his opinion. Some liked it, others clearly didn't.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 03:26 PM
Haven't heard the song, but I will be seeing him Sept 29. Almost all his songs are about war - not surprised to see another one - anyone listen to The Final Cut? Didn't he lose his father in a war?

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 03:51 PM
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Hey fellow peachheads!
Whats up gang. I was just wondering if any NYC area heads were at any MSG RWaters shows this week? Wanted to know what some of you folks thought. Does it strike anyone else that this cat is waaaaaaaaay out of line and overwhelmed with his "WAY TOO OVER THE TOP" self indulgent politics. Isnt it a lil bit ballsy to just blocks from GZero in week of Sept. 11th come in and spew his wayward propoganda. This "Leaving Lebanon" tune just strikes me as an embarrassment for the poor Mr. waters as his point seems to be some family was once nice to him on a personal visit to Lebanon as a youth (which is fine), but then seems to conclude that the rest of us are just a bunch of fat french fry/pizza eating Americans who are just walking around beating up these beautiful Muslims that we just dont understand. I was just real confused and more so offended by this part of the show. Not to mention the stupid ass pink Graffitied pig. Didnt that thing used to just have a happy face painted on the side of it, man? hahahaha. Whats his deal? Cant he just play the tunes... which by the way all the rest was just phenomenal.
(Damn That chick Carol Kenyon (?) wailed BTW!

Whatever everyones politics are nevermind - but c'mon has this guy just pushed the **** over the line for some of us normal folks who lust want to sit and chill - smoke a fatty or two and just enjoy the sweet sounds of Dark Side of the Moon.

No wonder the "CLASSY" David Gilmour cant get along with him.

Anyone?




I was at the 9/12 show and was put off by the over the top left wing politics as well, especially the attacks on Israel in Another Brick in the Wall as if Israel has no right to close its border to murderous savages to protect its people. He is a great song writer but Mr. Waters is a classic leftist. All problems in the world are the fault of Western Imeprialism and Bush and Blair are just the latest in a line of evil leaders that include Stalin and Mao. Many people were alienated by this imagery and you could clearly hear booing after that Leaving Lebanon song. The funny thing is when he dedicated Wish You Were Hear to the survivors left behind I thought "there's a classy sentiment."

Doug

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 04:18 PM
Seen Waters in Boston and was real turned off by his political nonsense. It was way over the top.
But did enjoy the show

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 04:32 PM
I was at the PNC show last week and thought it Rocked, i'm not into the political BS, but otherwise he puts on a Great show. I do miss David Gilmour with Pink Floyd, saw them perform The Wall tour about 25 years ago, That was amazing !!

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 04:39 PM
i'll be at the Philly show this Saturday.........i guess i'lll be on the lookout for the political BS......to be honest i couldnt care less about politics and damn sure dont want to hear about them when i'm trying to hear some music....

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 04:45 PM
Not into the political crap at show, but I went 9/12 and thought it was one of the best shows of the summer for me. He and his band were awesome. good stuff. That song brought the vibe down briefly but I just blew it off. Great concert!!!
 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 05:09 PM
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I agree 100% with you Waters show was really something to see.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 05:10 PM
I went last nite and really liked it. I thought the political stuff was a bit over the top but still it was an awesome show. He brought out a bunch of kids for Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. II and took out some songs out of the encore but I still really liked the show

 

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  posted on 9/14/2006 at 05:30 PM
I was at the Waters show 9/12. Loved the music and performance, also one of the better shows this summer I thought (DSOTM live, tough to top) but I wish he like most other performers would keep their politics out of it. Not quite as bad, but almost when I saw CSN&Y a few weeks ago. Saw several people get up and walk out when they sang "Impeach the President". Again, a terrific show but please leave the politics at home. But when we go to see these performers, if you're familiar enough with them, you pretty much know some of this BS is going to come up at some point during the show. Don't cry about being blindsided by it afterwards. I got to the show to hear the music.
 

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I was at the Waters show 9/12. Loved the music and performance, also one of the better shows this summer I thought (DSOTM live, tough to top) but I wish he like most other performers would keep their politics out of it. Not quite as bad, but almost when I saw CSN&Y a few weeks ago. Saw several people get up and walk out when they sang "Impeach the President". Again, a terrific show but please leave the politics at home. But when we go to see these performers, if you're familiar enough with them, you pretty much know some of this BS is going to come up at some point during the show. Don't cry about being blindsided by it afterwards. I got to the show to hear the music.


I saw CSNY at Jones Beach and didn't mind the political songs. 75% of their catalog is political so if you don't dig those type of lyrics then you probably aren't going to like them live. Save your money and go see another show. I saw a couple of people walk out during Impeach the President but the majority of people were standing and singing along.

 

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  posted on 9/15/2006 at 11:49 AM
I HIGHLY recommend putting all of your politics aside and do what you need to do to see this tour! Went to the 9/13 gig and it was truly a great show!!!

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  posted on 9/15/2006 at 12:53 PM
If any have read my posts on this site since recently joining,i try very hard to be positive about artists,avoid all negative interactions,all political discussion(i.e.whipping post--the site,not the song!) and,in general,sounding angry or mean. Sometimes i probably sound like a preachy(not peachy) old hippy--- but i'm human too--in about 35 years of seeingTONS of concerts,roger waters remains the only show we walked out of & his guitar player on that tour was ERIC CLAPTON! Clapton kept his back to the audience & waters during the entire show---he refused to ply leads--it was a waters festival of self indulgence-----as for his lebanon song.............enough said--asDylan says politics is the devil--well i want no part of that--peace

 

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  posted on 9/15/2006 at 01:31 PM
seriously, everyone should know what they are dealing with when they go to see CSNY and waters.U2 as well. Yes it is unnecessary but the shock here about politcs is a little over the top in my opinion. How can one song during an terrific show be so mind boggling that people are venting in threads. Before and after the song I bet everyone was loving the show.
 
 


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