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  posted on 8/1/2006 at 07:48 PM
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/0801metbeating.html

I just posted what was in my heart and mind over in the Guest Book.

People, this is just inexcusable in a civilized society.

If you're going to the ABB show at Lakewood later this month, prepare to endure stepped-up security.

I feel so sorry for the mother of this young man.

Just sick, that's all.

 

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  posted on 8/1/2006 at 07:52 PM
You're right. Very sad, indeed.

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People, this is just inexcusable in a civilized society.



We are fast becoming a less-civilized society.

 

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  posted on 8/1/2006 at 08:35 PM
Here's the story in case you're unable to open the link:

Man dies after concert fight
Suspects sought in attack at Lakewood Amphitheatre

By RHONDA COOK , JULIE TURKEWITZ
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/01/06

People were drinking and having fun as the heavy-metal band, Korn, played. Then a ball cap was grabbed, a single punch thrown and Andy Richardson lay sprawled, with a head injury, just where the seats meet the lawn at Lakewood Amphitheatrer.

A senseless dispute over a little thing ended Richardson's life. At 2:15 p.m. Tuesday, doctors pronounced him dead even though his body was being kept alive so recipients for his organs could be found.

His mother, Gloria Richardson, was in the intensive care unit at Grady Memorial Hospital when doctors told her one of her two children was gone.

"He was a sweet-spirited, strong, fiercely loyal young man," the mother said of her 30-year-old son. "He marched to the tune of his own drum. He really did love his friends and family. He didn't deserve this."

Richardson's friends, who had worked with him as a roofer and were with him at the Sunday night concert, waited at home for the news.

"We just went out there to have a good night," said one friend, Eddie Arellano . "It was starting off fun. And then this whole thing turned into nightmare."

According to Arellano and others at the concert, there was a group of rowdy men acting up during the show.

"These guys were just way too drunk. They had too many fights," Arellano said.

Earlier in the evening, some of the rowdies tumbled down a hill, crashing into Richardson and his friends. There was a brief scuffle, according to Bernice Averil, who was in Richardson's group. A little later, the rowdies returned and one of them snatched Richardson's cap.

"When they took his hat he stood up and said 'We've already had a fight. I don't want to have any problems.'" Arellano said, describing the moments just before the punch. "The guy threw the hat back at him. And when he [Richardson] caught it, the guy hit him in the face and he [Richardson] hit the ground and hit the concrete with the back of his head. He just collapsed.

"His face was bloody. It was bad. It was horrible," said Arellano, who also was Richardson's roommate.

The person who threw the punch and his friend ran off, Arellano said.

Atlanta police spokesman Officer Steve Coleman said homicide detectives "have people of interest" but no arrests had been made. Police have a "vague description" of the person who threw the punch, according to Sgt. Kevin Iosty.

Jack Gannon, a spokesman for House of Blues, a California-based company that has a sponsorship deal with the HiFi Buys Amphitheater, said the incident was "unfortunate and tragic" and that the company is "cooperating fully with the Atlanta police department investigation."

"This was a total shock," said Richardson's mother, Gloria, who was widowed several years ago. "It's not right that someone could go a concert for a good time and wind up dead. I want justice. Those two people need to be caught. There needs to be more security [at the venue] or they need to not have these concerts at all. I'm going to pursue this. My voice will be heard."

 

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  posted on 8/1/2006 at 09:25 PM
absolutely no reason for that at all
 

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  posted on 8/1/2006 at 09:41 PM
That is absolutely horrible...

I know many of you will be mad at me for saying this, but I really wish they wouldn't serve any kind of alcohol at concerts. I have had way too many concerts ruined because of other peoples drunken behaviors, most of them Allman Brothers Band concerts actually. - And at most concerts, I can't believe how many people go there just to drink. I know its not feasable in anyway and it will never happen for so many reasons, but I'd love to see a concert where everyone is there ONLY to get high from the music.

 

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  posted on 8/1/2006 at 11:58 PM
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That is absolutely horrible...

I know many of you will be mad at me for saying this, but I really wish they wouldn't serve any kind of alcohol at concerts. I have had way too many concerts ruined because of other peoples drunken behaviors, most of them Allman Brothers Band concerts actually. - And at most concerts, I can't believe how many people go there just to drink. I know its not feasable in anyway and it will never happen for so many reasons, but I'd love to see a concert where everyone is there ONLY to get high from the music.


Sadly all that happens if the venue doesn't sell alcohol is that people arrive fairly destoyed. at least that has been my experience. Most people who get totally blasted show up fairly in the bag even at venues selling beer.

I have experienced or witnessed countless stupid situations at concerts. Puts a damper on the night for many people.Even worse for that young man on that night. Shame.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 12:09 AM
STUPID and TRAGIC...

Over a Rock and Roll act and a hat???

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 12:30 AM
Does anyone remember when the Dead had some trouble and the folks at HTN mag wrote something about greeting one another where you're seated before concerts?
I remember in Louisville at one ABB show they did that. Can't remember if it was 95 or 96. Sorry must have been that Thunderbird!
Really, there's nothing one can do in a lot of cases, except move to another spot. I've seen more b.s. than the law allows at concerts. I have reported some to the cops.
One guy had a knife next to me at the Bros show in Louisville in 95 when somebody told him he had their seat, so he lays the knife on the stage and says nobody's making him move, what a jerk, if I didn't fear killing him from a big haymaker I'd took care of business myself. I told the law and they got his butt. Kirk came rushing out to the stage and grabbed the knife.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 12:31 AM
Effing unbelievable

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 12:32 AM
This is why I don't sit on the lawn at shows anymore.

Too much bad craziness

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 12:50 AM
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This is why I don't sit on the lawn at shows anymore.

Too much bad craziness


I resemble that remark

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 02:43 AM
wow..... i'm really really speechless.... i don't know what to say

not only is this an unfortunate event but i had a hand in getting this tour out on the road.

really eerie feeling.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 07:33 AM
I'm not saying it won't ever happen at a Brothers concert, but it's not as likely to happen at a Brothers concert as it would be a Korn concert (IMO...different crowd, different vibe to the music.) I feel for the mother of the victim. She (and her son) deserves justice for sure.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 08:44 AM
That really sucks!!
I feel for this guy's family......what a senseless act of violence to come out of no where.
Those guys sound like they were there for the aggression & to fight....NOT the music......but IMO that type of music tends to push violent behavior!
I figure that people usually grow up & move on to real music....but I guess I was wrong!

Now,security for the ABB is gonna be tight!!:
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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 08:51 AM
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Now,security for the ABB is gonna be tight!!:
THANKS ALOT ATLANTA KORN FANS!!!





And learn how to FRIGGIN SPELL !

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 10:27 AM
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That really sucks!!
I feel for this guy's family......what a senseless act of violence to come out of no where.
Those guys sound like they were there for the aggression & to fight....NOT the music......but IMO that type of music tends to push violent behavior!
I figure that people usually grow up & move on to real music....but I guess I was wrong!

Now,security for the ABB is gonna be tight!!:
THANKS ALOT ATLANTA KORN FANS!!!


This is what especially makes me sick. These goons went to this show with intentions of starting trouble. This was no accident.

I am not familiar at all with Korn's music. Is rage, destruction and murder a theme common to their music?

I feel sorry for the youngest generation of concert goers, whose parents will see this event as a good solid reason to not allow their child to attend a show.

I don't mean to keep "bumping" this thread ... well, maybe I do. I have been in contact with the writer of the column trying to see if there is a reward fund in place. She gave the number for Detective Miller with the Homicide Dept. of the Atlanta Police Department. The number is 404-853-4235.

If and when a reward fund comes about, I am going to make a donation. Another sad commentary on our society is that if you dangle enough money out there, somebody (who is already fully aware of this event and hasn't come forward) will give up their "freind".

The fact that this went down in a venue where my favorite band plays every year (until somebody gets the booking right with the Fox again) just adds to my anger.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 10:39 AM
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Is rage, destruction and murder a theme common to their music?



Rage definatly.

Unfortunately, these idiots use the music as a excuse to go postal

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 11:04 AM
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This is why I don't sit on the lawn at shows anymore.

Too much bad craziness


I resemble that remark


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Rage definatly.

Unfortunately, these idiots use the music as a excuse to go postal






According to the radio advertisements for their upcoming show that have been airing for a few weeks now in the Dallas area, YES.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 11:44 AM
I never heard of this band, but related it to our office manager, age 34, much more "with" the current music scene. She said she wasn't surprised, said their forte was "angry music for angry people."

Uncontrolled rage and civilization are incompatible, IMHO. Beware of those that encourage it.

 
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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 11:52 AM
This is disgusting and unnerving. I too am of the opinion that this is HIGHLY unlikely at a Brothers concert. It's unlikely at most concerts I attend.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 03:26 PM
The truth is that the type of music has nothing to do with it. I have seen fights at folk concerts as I am sure many of you have. I have witnessed many a drunken fool at ABB shows also. I have also seen more people that I would fear at ABB shows also. Meaning that I fear some 6'4 -250 lbs biker more than any skinny Korn fan that runs around like a fool.


There was no intention to commit murder here. Just drunken foolish actions likely by both parties. We are only getting one side of the story. Seems that there was a run-in earlier. A sober person would just avoid the idiots. The details are really unimportant because of the results. Otherwise it would just be another stupid drunken fight that we would never hear about.

Don't blame the music style for some fool's actions. This happens at most clubs, bars, arenas and stadiums at music events.

The most violent concert that I ever attened was a Who show. Fights everywhere, security totally abusing its authority by pounding people everywhere. Even one woman got punched out trying to help her boyfriend who was getting pounded by at least 4 security guys. All of this before the opening act had come on.

No excusing drunken actions. It is a shame that this young man died and it is a shame some other young fool will sit in prison because of one punch when he was drunk.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 04:25 PM
Yeah, there are fights - probably at every large public event (I've seen more that a few at football games). Even the Beacon Theater seems to be a haven for rowdy types.

I'm not blaming KoRn or their style of music for the behavior of a few morons. But in this instance, the offenders seem to have come to the show in anticipation of violence. Fights and violence can be sporadic, but not in this case I'm afraid. Witnesses report that these same guys had been in numerous fights before the one that resulted in the young man's death.

No intention to commit murder? I'm sure the offender has an M.D., and knew just when to stop the pummeling ("I think he's two or three head shots safe of a concussion - hit him again!").


The notion that this "young fool" might sit the rest of his life in prison (IF he is ever caught) will cause me to lose very little sleep.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 06:34 PM
Sorry I thought the story said he got hit once and then knocked his head on the concrete.

Again not condoning these idiots but I have been in a few fights over the years and I never intentionally wanted to kill. But someone could have fallen and smashed his head. The same can be said for any of you involved in an altercation. Even if the other guy started it.

Like yourself, I wouldn't lose any sleep either but it sure is a waste of tax dollars.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2006 at 09:35 PM
I love a good arguement but when you raise your hand to hit someone you should be well aware that you can seriously injure someone. I think the perp was looking to hurt the young man who died and I think he is responsible for killing him. The man who did the hitting was playing around. Drugs, alcohol or a **** ty life does not give anyone the right to play around with someone in such a dangerous manner.

I too have come across some despicable behavior at both Mule and ABB concerts. One of the main reasons why I won't buy tickets too far away from the stage anymore. Seems people know how to behave better when the band may actually see the interaction.

As for alcohol, I think it is the devil's brew because I have rarely met a person who knows how to moderate their drinking enough so that they don't act like a fool in one way or another. I also suspect that some people, you know the ones who act like zombies, are taking much more than some peaceful kind bud.

You can't moderate it all, though I think venues can give up some of their profits by not selling beer to clearly intoxicated people and by making people buy their own drinks, instead of 10 cups of the stuff.

Other than that, the only thing an individual can do is walk away from s**t like this. It's rot to have to leave your spot but baby, why take the risk? Also the young man and his group could have reported the first incident to the security and possibly have prevented the problem.

I've even walked away from people flailing their arms and hands too much for fear I might get an indavertant hit in the head. Traumatic Brain Injury is a real thing and people are very susceptable to serious cognitive problems if the hit is hard enough (and of course in the case of this young man, death). Just recently I had to touch someone real easily but clearly so that he would come back to reality and say to him, sweetly but firmly, ok, I think you've had enough, it's time to stop dancing now, we're just singing. Gratefully he was able to hear how I meant it and he left. It's sad that people have to leave themselves to have a "good time."

Anyway, so sad for this guy and his friends and family and I hope the guys who did it get caught and prosecuted.

 
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