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  posted on 5/24/2006 at 08:18 PM
The Mule is my all time fave.I have seen them every year since 95.I have 2 requests i wish to God they would add Mother Earth back to their regular setlist.I have not seen them play that since 02.Also on 9/21/01 i saw them do a cover of Elton John's Madman Across the Water.It was mesmerizing.The Mule made it there own and Warren just ripped it up!These are 2 songs i wish they would play more often.
Believe me i am not complaining this is just my wish list and i think others may approve.

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I couldn't agree with you more. There are so many great mule songs that rarley get played. Left Coast Groovies, World of Difference, Devil Likes It Slow,and Monkey Hill.
It too bad that we have to hear the same old songs time and time again.

Note to Warren: No more Soulshine, Rocking Horse, Doggie, Blind Man, or Thorozine. These songs were great but now they are just filler live.

 

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  posted on 5/25/2006 at 03:32 PM
These are the top 20 most overplayed mule songs - or I like to call them them Mule's Top 20 K-roc Hits.

Bad Little Doggie
Bad Man Walking
Beautifully Broken
Blindman
Game Face
I'll Be the One
Larger than Life
Mr. Man
Mule (yes I know it is their theme song but it is being destroyed
because of overplay)
Rocking Horse
ScoMule
SOULSHINE (this needs a 2 year hiatus)
Thorazine Shuffle

Overplayed covers:
She Said She Said>Tomorrow Never Knows
Effigy
32/20 Blues
30 Days> Can't You See
One



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  posted on 5/25/2006 at 08:26 PM
I couldn't agree with you more Angela about the Mule Original songs being overplayed, but the cover songs I can't agree with. 30 days in the Hole gets played maybe once every 6 shows or so...One is almost never played...and Can't You See was played for the first time this year since....I think 2004. So I wouldn't say those songs are getting overplayed. But I do wish Warren would incorporate GRINNIN IN YOUR FACE, Monkey Hill, Left Coast, Mr. Big, Wandering Child, Mother Earth, World of Difference, Towering Fool, I Shall Return, World Gone Wild, Far Away, Tear Me Down, Life on the Outside, Sin's a Good Man's Brother, Catfish Blues among other rarely played songs back into the setlist in place of Slackjaw, Hammer and Nails, Thorazine, Soulshine, Blind Man, Lay Your Burden Down, Fallen Down, Effigy, Fool's Moon, About to Rage....pretty much all of Deja Voodoo except My Separate Reality and New World Blues. I'm not picky or anything, really...

 

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  posted on 5/25/2006 at 10:04 PM
Yeah, Suk0, I'm not picky either. LOL.

I stand corrected on 30 Days> Can't You See but I must have heard it everytime they did it. Maybe I'm Amazed too, except for the bonnaroo show. LOL.

I really love all the Mule songs. I just can't stand the over kill. And I do think those songs I listed need to be played in measured doses.

I went through all the albums and there are tons of songs that aren't played very much. And I wish they could return into the rotation.

PS - I liked most of Deja Voodoo too. But a few of the songs are getting overplayed and that to me is the kiss of death. Even a song like Soulshine that I used to love is a song I cringe at now. Not really, but you get the picture.

I love this band and I would never ever say anything critical if I didn't feel it was important.

 

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  posted on 5/25/2006 at 11:05 PM
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Yeah, Suk0, I'm not picky either. LOL.

I stand corrected on 30 Days> Can't You See but I must have heard it everytime they did it. Maybe I'm Amazed too, except for the bonnaroo show. LOL.

I really love all the Mule songs. I just can't stand the over kill. And I do think those songs I listed need to be played in measured doses.

I went through all the albums and there are tons of songs that aren't played very much. And I wish they could return into the rotation.

PS - I liked most of Deja Voodoo too. But a few of the songs are getting overplayed and that to me is the kiss of death. Even a song like Soulshine that I used to love is a song I cringe at now. Not really, but you get the picture.

I love this band and I would never ever say anything critical if I didn't feel it was important.


The song I am more tired of than any other is Rocking Horse because of the Allmans. I think Angela that if you see the band 25 times in a single year you are going to get a lot of repeats. The band can only keep so many songs in rotation. I do wish that in the category known as "early Mule" they would play Rocking Horse and Mule a little less and a couple of others a little more. I happen to love I Shall Return . I do love Blind Man and Bad Little Doggie and always enjoy hearing them but I would love more variety. We've got to understnad that as more original material is added some of the old favorites are going to go by the wayside. This is true of any band. We are fortunate that the Mule plays as many songs as they do.

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  posted on 5/26/2006 at 10:45 AM
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These are the top 20 most overplayed mule songs - or I like to call them them Mule's Top 20 K-roc Hits.

Bad Little Doggie
Bad Man Walking
Beautifully Broken
Blindman
Game Face
I'll Be the One
Larger than Life
Mr. Man
Mule (yes I know it is their theme song but it is being destroyed
because of overplay)
Rocking Horse
ScoMule
SOULSHINE (this needs a 2 year hiatus)
Thorazine Shuffle

Overplayed covers:
She Said She Said>Tomorrow Never Knows
Effigy
32/20 Blues
30 Days> Can't You See
One

I used to like these songs (most of them) but now they just make me sad.



Ang I think you meant I Don't Need No Doctor instead of Can't You See. I agree with Soulshine unless it's the Reggae version. That is killer and I'm not that big on reggae. I don't think Mule is destroyed by overplayed. It's how the song is played. It is never played the same way twice and the same goes for Blindman. Just have to listen closer Mr. Man will be played as long as the administration that's currently in office is there. I love it!!

 

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  posted on 5/26/2006 at 10:49 AM
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Yeah, Suk0, I'm not picky either. LOL.

I stand corrected on 30 Days> Can't You See but I must have heard it everytime they did it. Maybe I'm Amazed too, except for the bonnaroo show. LOL.

I really love all the Mule songs. I just can't stand the over kill. And I do think those songs I listed need to be played in measured doses.

I went through all the albums and there are tons of songs that aren't played very much. And I wish they could return into the rotation.

PS - I liked most of Deja Voodoo too. But a few of the songs are getting overplayed and that to me is the kiss of death. Even a song like Soulshine that I used to love is a song I cringe at now. Not really, but you get the picture.

I love this band and I would never ever say anything critical if I didn't feel it was important.



I'm confused. Can't You See has only been played 7 times. Tough to say it's overplayed unless you're talking about a different song

suk0 I agree with all of the songs you mentioned except Slackjaw. That is classic. They play the hell out of that song.

[Edited on 5/26/2006 by jessica0717]

 

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  posted on 5/26/2006 at 11:37 AM
I agree with alot of these comments, some of their setlists are used quite a bit.

The new album should fix some of this however.

 

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  posted on 5/26/2006 at 12:48 PM
Done in a haunting blues fashion. Best I can make out of the lyrics. I love this sad song. And I liked a lot of the other new ones too. The song about an Angel is great and so is Unring the Bell and the rest too. Great new stuff. Can't wait till they dominate the set lists.
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Endless Parade (by Warren Haynes)

A primadonna with a premonition
Like he's preaching to the choir
A superstar filled with superstition
Can pull himself out of the night

All you ever dreamed of
Is finally in your reach
Be careful what you wish for
If you don't practice what you preach

The circus came to town
I guess it must have stayed
It's like an endless parade

All these people you can see through like ghosts
Maybe you've seen too much
Nothing's real and nothing you can feel
No one you can touch

Strangers stare in silence
They think they know your mind
There's no place to jump off
It's the way the game is designed

Another new day dawns
Another sunset fades
It's like an endless parade

Music, music and more music
Imploding inside your brain
The life you have chosen
Did it finally drive you insane

Psychofantic tirades
Fill your head with ammunition
? on your enemies
But you keep losing your position

? face the day
trying to get your game face on
What used to be a fantasy
Now becomes a marathon

Every heart you ever broke
All the people you betrayed
Another new day dawns
Another sunset fades

The circus came to town
I guess it must have stayed
It's like an endless parade

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The circus came to town
I guess it must have stayed
It's like an endless parade


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  posted on 5/26/2006 at 01:48 PM
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Done in a haunting blues fashion. Best I can make out of the lyrics. I love this sad song. And I liked a lot of the other new ones too. The song about an Angel is great and so is Unring the Bell and the rest too. Great new stuff. Can't wait till they dominate the set lists.
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Endless Parade (by Warren Haynes)

A primadonna with a premonition
Like he's preaching to the choir
A superstar filled with superstition
Can pull himself out of the night

All you ever dreamed of
Is finally in your reach
Be careful what you wish for
If you don't practice what you preach

The circus came to town
I guess it must have stayed
It's like an endless parade

All these people you can see through like ghosts
Maybe you've seen too much
Nothing's real and nothing you can feel
No one you can touch

Strangers stare in silence
They think they know your mind
There's no place to jump off
It's the way the game is designed

Another new day dawns
Another sunset fades
It's like an endless parade

Music, music and more music
Imploding inside your brain
The life you have chosen
Did it finally drive you insane

Psychofantic tirades
Fill your head with ammunition
? on your enemies
But you keep losing your position

? face the day
trying to get your game face on
What used to be a fantasy
Now becomes a marathon

Every heart you ever broke
All the people you betrayed
Another new day dawns
Another sunset fades

The circus came to town
I guess it must have stayed
It's like an endless parade

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BTW, I may have been to 29 shows last year and some may think that is a lot but the band did about 112 tour dates in 05. So I did about 25% of the shows. I don't think that alone is the reason I feel the way I do. Of course I can stop going to as many as I do. That is one way to handle it.

[Edited on 5/26/2006 by Angelemerald]


Nah. Cause you'll just get the Mule Tracks or copies of the shows like I do. Frankly, at this point, I would like to see Mule play less covers and more of a variety of their original material. I love the covers but if that is the reason they are only playing to or three songs from the first album, they should limit them more. Can anyone give a pretty good idea of the total number of songs in the Mule repotoire for last year and this?

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  posted on 5/26/2006 at 08:12 PM
I never "cringe" at the sound of any Mule tune

 

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  posted on 5/26/2006 at 10:05 PM
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I never "cringe" at the sound of any Mule tune


I agree with that.

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  posted on 5/29/2006 at 04:46 PM
I think both Blind Man and Mule can remain pretty fresh, but mostly because The Mule can take those songs into totally new places when they play them. Same with Sco-Mule, but that one's infinitely inproved when they have guests. Most of the others are pretty justifiable to complain about, although I think I'll Be the One can be pretty great when they're really hitting it, even after seeing that song as many times as I have. Definitely agree with you on all the covers, except 30 Days, which, aside from not being played all that much, never gets old, at least for me, and One, which I've only seen a couple of times and has been fantastic both times.

I agree though, they need to start throwing in some old classics (Sad and Deep As You especially. We all know how great that can still be after hearing the New Years show, and imagine one with, oh, say, Sam Bush or Jeff Austin (YMSB) and another sax player, anyone from Randall Bramlett or Ron Holloway to Karl Denson, or, dare I say it, Skerik).

 

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  posted on 5/30/2006 at 11:57 AM
Damn Angela you're mighty cold, but maybe right on target. Like it or not the Mule isn't a young band anymore. Not drawing on your history is kind of viewed as a nod that maybe your history wasn't that good in the first place. Of course the Mule can run off any panty waist wannabe scenesters easily playing their hits. LOL! Frankly my beef with Warren and the Mule is "Life Before Insanity," the CD, to me represents the Mule kind of running out of ideas. I was very dissappointed when "Deja Voodoo" came out. I felt it was for the most part in that same vein. i.e. a lot of plodding power chord, heavily effected music, with a lot of unnecessary changes and twists for no other reason than unnecessary change, full of depressed lyrics. Then again I guess that is what Mule music is about with the exception of "Dose." Lol! Here's hoping the CD is 180 degree change of direction into fresher territory. Whatever that might be.

 

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  posted on 5/30/2006 at 12:16 PM
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Damn Angela you're mighty cold, but maybe right on target. Like it or not the Mule isn't a young band anymore. Not drawing on your history is kind of viewed as a nod that maybe your history wasn't that good in the first place. Of course the Mule can run off any panty waist wannabe scenesters easily playing their hits. LOL! Frankly my beef with Warren and the Mule is "Life Before Insanity," the CD, to me represents the Mule kind of running out of ideas. I was very dissappointed when "Deja Voodoo" came out. I felt it was for the most part in that same vein. i.e. a lot of plodding power chord, heavily effected music, with a lot of unnecessary changes and twists for no other reason than unnecessary change, full of depressed lyrics. Then again I guess that is what Mule music is about with the exception of "Dose." Lol! Here's hoping the CD is 180 degree change of direction into fresher territory. Whatever that might be.


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Damn Angela you're mighty cold, but maybe right on target. Like it or not the Mule isn't a young band anymore. Not drawing on your history is kind of viewed as a nod that maybe your history wasn't that good in the first place. Of course the Mule can run off any panty waist wannabe scenesters easily playing their hits. LOL! Frankly my beef with Warren and the Mule is "Life Before Insanity," the CD, to me represents the Mule kind of running out of ideas. I was very dissappointed when "Deja Voodoo" came out. I felt it was for the most part in that same vein. i.e. a lot of plodding power chord, heavily effected music, with a lot of unnecessary changes and twists for no other reason than unnecessary change, full of depressed lyrics. Then again I guess that is what Mule music is about with the exception of "Dose." Lol! Here's hoping the CD is 180 degree change of direction into fresher territory. Whatever that might be.


Can't agree with a word of this. I love both LBI and DV. They are filled with great songs. If you want the truly creative jams, you've got to buy Mule Tracks. Depressed lyrics yes but how is Dose an exception? Plodding power chords? Effected Music? Unnecessary changes and twists? I don't get it. You don't really sound like much of a Mule fan, except for Dose of course.

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  posted on 5/30/2006 at 12:39 PM
I think you guys mean "Affected" music. As in overly emotional.

Boy what I would give for a Which Way Do We Run, Trying Not to Fall, Catfish Blues, What is Hip, World Of Confusion, Far Away, Towering Fool, Raven Black Night, Mother Earth, Monkey Hill, Temporary Saint, Suffer, Wandering Child, Life Before Insanity, Far Away, Wine and Blood, My Seperate Reality, Worried Down With the Blues, Maybe I'm a Leo, Life on the Outside and Down and Out in NYC.

I'll take those affected songs over the top 20 kroc mule tunes anyday.

And Charles, I guess it is better to be cold than mean.

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I think you guys mean "Affected" music. As in overly emotional.

Boy what I would give for a Which Way Do We Run, Trying Not to Fall, Catfish Blues, What is Hip, World Of Confusion, Far Away, Towering Fool, Raven Black Night, Mother Earth, Monkey Hill, Temporary Saint, Suffer, Wandering Child, Life Before Insanity, Far Away, Wine and Blood, My Seperate Reality, Worried Down With the Blues, Maybe I'm a Leo, Life on the Outside and Down and Out in NYC.

I'll take those affected songs over the top 20 kroc mule tunes anyday.

And Charles, I guess it is better to be cold than mean.

[Edited on 5/30/2006 by Angelemerald]


I love every one of those songs and would prefer them to be played more as well. But there must be a limit to the amount of tunes the band has in its repotoire at any one time. I still think Blind Man is the single greatest Warren Haynes composition of all time.

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  posted on 5/30/2006 at 01:02 PM
I knew I'd be misunderstood and after reading my post I can see why. I love the Mule and have seen them almost every year since they formed way back in 95. And yes they never have disappointed live whether it be the oirginal band, the new "School" or the current one. And this was the original thread of this topic I believe: How their pseudo hits are becoming filler in their shows.

I was just stating that how Angela could be perceived as right especially for someone who attends beau coup shows. My beef is that LBI was not one of my favorite Mule CDs for fact that while having some great songs ("Lay Your Burden Down," "In My Life,") on it there was some filler as well. While I certainly think Warren has written some great songs, I believe he's more prolific than great. Does that make sense? I mean you obviously need to be prolific to be great, but .......... maybe a more ....... what's the word I'm looking for ..... judicious editiing? "Deja Voodoo" impressed me as being similar to LBI although I love "Silent Scream."

But hey that's just me. I bought and will continue to buy their records and see their shows hoping that every "next" one truely hits the note. N'est pas?

 

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  posted on 5/30/2006 at 01:06 PM
P.S. Sorry if I came off as mean, Angela and Doug. I was shooting for truthful, observant, real. Perhaps I should have tried cold. Lol!

 

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  posted on 5/30/2006 at 01:10 PM
And by "effected" I meant his guitar sound is heavily processed tremelo and delay early on. Leslie cab simulation, wah, discombobulator, etc. appear to be the current faves.

 

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Charles, I agree, I have been waiting for that bug against the windshield feel too.

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P.S. Sorry if I came off as mean, Angela and Doug. I was shooting for truthful, observant, real. Perhaps I should have tried cold. Lol!

I didn't think you were being mean. I was commenting on your comment to me that I was cold. Unfortunately, being honest on these boards usually comes off sounding like one is being mean. So I am better off just being cold.

I think LBI is the best Mule cd so far - excluding High and Mighty because I haven't heard enough of it yet to make a serious comment. What I've heard so far, I like.

And yes, prolific writing is not necessarily great writing - (thinking of my own writing as a case in point).

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P.S. Sorry if I came off as mean, Angela and Doug. I was shooting for truthful, observant, real. Perhaps I should have tried cold. Lol!


Youd did not come off as mean at all. Mean would be to personally attack someone. Actually I was afraid my response to you was a little mean. I just thought you came off as someone not all that fond of GM post 1998. You have cleared that up. We are all fans and are all entitled to our opinions. You have certainly earned the right to be critical (not that you had to earn it) The songs I love are probably the ones you do not care for. On Deja Voodoo I love Slackjaw Jezebel more than any other. In fact it is probably one of my two or three favorite Warren compositions. I also love Mr. Man, Bad Man Walking and Little Toy Brain. Perhaps my all time favorite after BMITD is Banks of the Deep End which is very un-Mule like. I think we can all agree that a few more lesser played numbers would do the trick. In the liner notes for the Deepest End, Warren talks about a lot of the older songs not having bene played much since Woody's passing. Now they play many of those songs frequently. So we can hope that more classics will be put in the mix. As a final point, I would not call Bad Little Doggie and Blind Man pseudo hits. They happen to be great live songs which is why they are played frequently.

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  posted on 5/30/2006 at 02:37 PM
I like a lot of these songs too. They are just overplayed.

Bad Little Doggie (like)
Bad Man Walking
Beautifully Broken (like -without WDC)
Blindman (love)
Game Face
I'll Be the One (like)
Larger than Life
Mr. Man
Mule (love)
Rocking Horse (love)
ScoMule (like)
SOULSHINE (would be happy never to hear again)
Thorazine Shuffle (like)

I love Slackjaw, a very smart (ass) song. :-)


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