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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 06:17 PM
lately ive been listening to a good amount of the corwes w/ page and hearing some of their zep covers i never realized how similar plant's and robinson's voices are. does anyone else think the same?

 
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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 06:32 PM
I agree. That was a sweet tour - I saw a few of the JP/BC shows...CR is so smooth...definitely one of the most versatile musicians out there - and full of amazing talent. Just ask Phil Lesh.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 06:53 PM
IMHO, when you use the word "versus", it means 'against, or in contrast to' and here you have two completely different front men, with very strong vocals from two completely Rock Generations. PLANT has been described by experts as "The Definitive Rock Voice" of the 70's. Now jump to the 90's and can you say that as a 'big picture' about Robinson for his generation of music and type of band? There is no doubt that he is fantastic and has a great band for the genre, but I would have to go with my gut feeling and being there through PLANT'S whole career and still goin' strong, and say you cannot compare the two. Good topic for discussion.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:06 PM
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...here you have two completely different front men, with very strong vocals from two completely Rock Generations.


Interesting comparisons, but I don't think they are "completely" different at all really, although they are from different genearations of rock music.

I happen to be a BIG fan of both bands so I think I can be totally fair here. If you are just comparing the two lead singers and not popularity or record sales etc, I think Chris Robinson is really the better of two singers. In fact, as a singer in live concert situations, Chris might be quite a bit better. Plant could never quite duplicate his vocals from the albums to the stage - his range was more limited on stage. Plant's voice in live shows especially by the late 1970's, sort of just gave out on him after a while while CR's vocals seemed to have gotten stronger over the years. Also, believe it or not, The Crowes have now had a longer career than Led Zep by about 5 years...pretty amazing. Overall, I give the edge Chris Robinson for vocal strength, stage presence and longevity...





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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:13 PM
i wasnt really comparing both of their careers (didnt mean to at least) but rather their voices and the similarity
 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:17 PM
Not sure how this relates to the original post, but I just saw the Brothers of a Feather show in SF (Bimbos') - Chris and Rich Robinson - and I was extremely impressed with Chris' voice. It was acoustic, mosty one (or two) guitars and vocals. Awesome. I like the BC's, but this was something special.

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:21 PM
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too bad there was a "no taping" policy for these shows...


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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:25 PM
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i wasnt really comparing both of their careers (didnt mean to at least) but rather their voices and the similarity
I know what you mean now. And I wasn't referring to record sales. Plant's voice suffered from his tragic accident in the 70's. We almost wished he wouldn't do "Stairway To Heaven" at concerts after that because he wasn't hittin' the high note anymore. I was stating that he has been considered "The Voice" of our (I'm from the 60's ) era, and I always thought that to be unfair to Roger Daltry, who also had THE ROCK voice. CR is terriffic and I am a fan. I am hoping the band holds it together for longevity status.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:27 PM
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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:32 PM
Oh....and yes CR can light my candle anytime!!!

 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:38 PM
The sound & raw power of Plant's voice in the late 60's/early 70's has never been & never will be touched.Just crank up 'How many more times' or Since I been lovin you'.As said though,after his voice mellowed it wasn't the same,so it really depends which Plant 'era' is being compared to CR.Oh by the way,I know this wasn't the topic but-the Crowes are great but they don't even compare to the rock & roll monster that was Led Zeppelin..

 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:42 PM
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The sound & raw power of Plant's voice in the late 60's/early 70's has never been & never will be touched.Just crank up 'How many more times' or Since I been lovin you'.As said though,after his voice mellowed it wasn't the same,so it really depends which Plant 'era' is being compared to CR.Oh by the way,I know this wasn't the topic but-the Crowes are great but they don't even compare to the rock & roll monster that was Led Zeppelin..


i definately agree with you...how many more times cant be cranked up anymore when i listen to it..love that song

 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:45 PM
There's also "Dazed and Confused, Black Dog, and Rock N Roll"(in my constant rotation)

 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 07:48 PM
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too bad there was a "no taping" policy for these shows...


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OK Thanks - those are sweet shows...

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 08:18 PM
I've never gotten into the Crowes, so it would be unfair for me to make a comparison between the two, but Zeppelin was the first band I ever really fell in love with and much of that had to do with Plant's vocals. Since I've Been Loving You has the most powerful vocals I've ever heard (especially on the BBC album). Also, songs like That's the Way and Going to California are sung with an incredible amount of beauty and passion. He is also an amazing songwriter and performer. I know that a lot of people think that some of his lyrics from the Zeppelin days are a joke, but I love them. Battle Of Evermore has some of the greatest imagery ever put into a song. His solo stuff is also incredible. Ship Of Fools, 29 Palms, All the King's Horses, I Believe, Moonlight In Samosa, and others are some of my favorite songs of all time and although his voice doesn't have the power that it once did, he still finds a way to sing everything so beautifully in his concerts, much in the same way that Dylan does. BOB RULES!!!
 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 08:51 PM
Just in terms of who's a better singer? Chris Robinson, to me.

I'll give Plant his due -- huge voice, real charisma, etc. But to me there's this whole side of Plant that I can't get past now that I'm not a stoned 14 yr old (more like a drunk 42 yr old, but whatever)... Which is his take on the British folk thing. I just think all that hobbit, fairy, norse gods prancing around stonehenge stuff ages very badly. It's in his lyrics but it also leaks into his vocal style, and I think it's a wee bit ... um ... silly.

When he was singing blooze, he sounded fantastic, Zep 1 and 2 of course are awesome performances by him, as is MOST of Zoso and his Physical Graffiti era straight ahead rock singing is cool too. But that makes me want to argue that he sounds good when he's imitating Americans and he sounds twee and goofy when he's being what he is, which is British.

Meanwhile Chris Robinson IS American, he doesn't have to imitate Americans. And he has that lineage of blues and country and rock and folk right there dripping off his voice automatically. And if you ask me (which you didn't! LOL), Americans are just flat out better singers. That's right, I'm a patriotic jingoist when it comes to music. Give me wheezing late period Bob Dylan over the best vocal take Donovan ever managed. Give me Tom Waits being totally inventive and interesting over an army of Joe Cockers! Give me Etta and Aretha and Gladys Knight over Dusty Springfield and Lulu and Marianne Faithfull! Give me Joni Mitchell over Sandy Denny, and Willie over Richard Thompson. How about this: Give me ONE Brit who can sing like Cash, Hag, or Gregg f*#%in' Allman? GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH, BABY!!!!
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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 09:34 PM
The Pete Man blazing away against those limeys like it's 1812 all over again !!!

But what about the Beatles ???

Loved Page and the Crowes a few years ago. Those were some great rock shows. Too young to have seen Zep so I can't really compare. Big Crowes fan but I don't think they topped Physical Graffiti.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 09:34 PM
"the Crowes are great but they don't even compare to the rock & roll monster that was Led Zeppelin.."

Until recently, I would have heartily agreed with this statement. I recently saw the Crowes at the Langerado festival for the first time in ten years, and I have to say they made me re-evaluate them as a band. Chris in particular was amazing, his vocals were strong and on point and his stage presence was true Rock Star. The Crowes music is simpler and in some ways less "impressive" than that of a band like the Allman Brothers, but they rock as hard as any band on the planet today.

I'm not sure Chris is Robert's equal as a songwriter, but as a vocalist and live performer, he may well be worthy of comparison to Plant.

"Give me wheezing late period Bob Dylan over the best vocal take Donovan ever managed."

I think you lost me with that one, Pete I've always thought Donovan has a great voice.

 
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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 10:13 PM
I think thePeteman has had a bit too much of that american whiskey man.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 10:53 PM
I love the Black Crowes and I have seen them a number of times. But Led Zeppelin was something magical during the 60s and 70s. I agree with the others who have stated that Plant is the voice when it comes to Rock and Roll. Dyer Maker
 

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  posted on 4/24/2006 at 10:55 PM
Evan Williams, Jack Daniel's, Old Grandad or one of the other fellas?
 

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  posted on 4/25/2006 at 06:14 AM
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Just in terms of who's a better singer? Chris Robinson, to me.

I'll give Plant his due -- huge voice, real charisma, etc. But to me there's this whole side of Plant that I can't get past now that I'm not a stoned 14 yr old (more like a drunk 42 yr old, but whatever)... Which is his take on the British folk thing. I just think all that hobbit, fairy, norse gods prancing around stonehenge stuff ages very badly. It's in his lyrics but it also leaks into his vocal style, and I think it's a wee bit ... um ... silly.

When he was singing blooze, he sounded fantastic, Zep 1 and 2 of course are awesome performances by him, as is MOST of Zoso and his Physical Graffiti era straight ahead rock singing is cool too. But that makes me want to argue that he sounds good when he's imitating Americans and he sounds twee and goofy when he's being what he is, which is British.

Meanwhile Chris Robinson IS American, he doesn't have to imitate Americans. And he has that lineage of blues and country and rock and folk right there dripping off his voice automatically. And if you ask me (which you didn't! LOL), Americans are just flat out better singers. That's right, I'm a patriotic jingoist when it comes to music. Give me wheezing late period Bob Dylan over the best vocal take Donovan ever managed. Give me Tom Waits being totally inventive and interesting over an army of Joe Cockers! Give me Etta and Aretha and Gladys Knight over Dusty Springfield and Lulu and Marianne Faithfull! Give me Joni Mitchell over Sandy Denny, and Willie over Richard Thompson. How about this: Give me ONE Brit who can sing like Cash, Hag, or Gregg f*#%in' Allman? GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH, BABY!!!!
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  posted on 4/25/2006 at 06:32 AM
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  posted on 4/25/2006 at 03:40 PM
I try not to be too opinionated but whoever thinks Chris Robinson is a better singer and or frontman needs some serious therapy.Chris Robinson is a very good lead singer.

Robert Plant is a legendary lead singer and frontman !
One of the best ever !!!!!

 

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  posted on 4/25/2006 at 03:47 PM
i caught TBC several times in the past year........and i really felt as if Chris was channelling some Robert Plant at times (and Mick Fleetwood at others, Jaggar....).

Chris is quickly becoming one of the best frontmen touring today....

better than Plant? i dunno.....he's 75% less "rock star" IMHO, which is a good thing....

 

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