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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:16 AM
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All you standing in the isles in the orchestra, we have a right to our seat. Iím tired of getting dirty looks because I need to get back to my seat after returning from the bathroom!

They should not sell alcohol at this event, too many drunks walking around, or should I say falling around! If they do sell it, limit the drinks to beer & wine and stop selling after the first set. It might eliminate a lot of the drunks and would certainly stop some of the in & out during the show!

Tapers, we all love ya, and Iím sure you are doing a great service, but remember, if someone wants to cheer extra loud, or whistle, itís their right, they paid for a ticket too. Iím not talking about myself by the way, just something I observed in the loge last night, remember, taping a show is a crap shoot, sometimes you get a good one & sometimes you donít.

 
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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:21 AM
First concert?

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:23 AM
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First concert?

Seriously!!

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:23 AM
No actually, I've probably been going to concerts since before you were born! Why, were you one of the drunks?
 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:27 AM
Easy cowboy. It's just that you're comin' out shootin' both sixes from the hip. If you're posting to be informative & make a point you're being a little brash about it.

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:27 AM
I doubt that.

I'm 46, and have been to more than my fair share.

You sound like these were unexpected encounters.

All were pretty common for a theater show, with the possible exception of the aisle standers.

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:27 AM
My own observations:

1. I've never been, or seen anyone else "shhhhshed" by a taper. I've seen some glares given to the obnoxious drunk types that you mention, but never seen a taper ask for quiet.

2. I've never been fortunate enough to even get orchestra level seats. How'd you pull that off?

3. The Loge (Friday night, anyway) was a great location. Sound was good and folks kept their butts in their seats for most of the show. Great view, good sound. I reccomend that you try to get those seats in the future.

4. If you want T-shirts, posters or other merchandise, I strongly reccomend that you buy them before the show. After the show, that line turns into a feeding trough frenzy complete with @ssholes with elbows (see my post in the guestbook following Saturday's show).

All-in-all, the Beacon is a great experience!

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:33 AM
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All you standing in the isles in the orchestra, we have a right to our seat. Iím tired of getting dirty looks because I need to get back to my seat after returning from the bathroom!

They should not sell alcohol at this event, too many drunks walking around, or should I say falling around! If they do sell it, limit the drinks to beer & wine and stop selling after the first set. It might eliminate a lot of the drunks and would certainly stop some of the in & out during the show!

Tapers, we all love ya, and Iím sure you are doing a great service, but remember, if someone wants to cheer extra loud, or whistle, itís their right, they paid for a ticket too. Iím not talking about myself by the way, just something I observed in the loge last night, remember, taping a show is a crap shoot, sometimes you get a good one & sometimes you donít.




 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:38 AM
Man, have I seen this discussion before!

Physically, it hurts me to stand for an entire concert. Financially, concert tickets for me are a big deal. I've been the obnoxious drunk, and I've been the sober "bitch." The music is much better when I'm sober. As for all the people blocking my view, whether they are high or straight, I just sigh and take it as part of the concert experience. It's too bad though...we don't often remember the Golden Rule at shows, it seems...if I remember that Rule, then I just try to be happy for those who can dance and jump around, and focus myself on the music...I invariably end up paying for days physically after a show, just trying to stand up as much as I can to see the musicians.

Putting up with drunks, I figure it is just my fate, after all my drinking days

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:40 AM
I am 50, been going to concerts since 1970, first was Yes at the Sunshine inn in Asbury Park. Fisrt Allman's was @ the Trenton State Fairgrounds, I belive in 1972. I did witness some shhshhers last night in the loge. While I will say, most were well behaved and enjoying the show, it is the minority that ruin it! As far as the orchestra seats, sometimes you have to be lucky, I had 5th row for Friday, but all the way to the right, in front of the PA, lucky, I'm not sure. I also had the loge for the 10th. Were these observations expected, you bet they were, but that doesn't make it right, nor exceptable. There is a thing called etiquette!
 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:43 AM
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There is a thing called etiquette!


In New York City?! I did not know that...




(ok, it's my first damnYankee joke on the board, I couldn't resist)

 

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There is a thing called etiquette!


In New York City?! I did not know that...




(ok, it's my first damnYankee joke on the board, I couldn't resist)



HEY!!!

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 08:56 AM
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Tapers, we all love ya, and Iím sure you are doing a great service, but remember, if someone wants to cheer extra loud, or whistle, itís their right, they paid for a ticket too. Iím not talking about myself by the way, just something I observed in the loge last night, remember, taping a show is a crap shoot, sometimes you get a good one & sometimes you donít.



I have been taping the ABB, and many other bands, for quite some time now. Including a short run at the Beacon this year. I have never asked anyone around me to not fully enjoy themselves at a show. In most cases the only time a taper asks someone to be respectful is when some drunk intentially yells into your mics. Otherwise we (tapers) all understand that crowd response is what makes an audience recording so beautiful.

Now that I think about it, this was already discussed on this board last week.

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 09:12 AM
I was at 4 shows this year. 2 in the lower balc. 2 in the loge. I had no problems with anybody. I had a cool vibe the entire time. People sat and everyone was able to see. People got up to go to the john or wherever and no one was hassled. The only thing is at one of the shows, the people in front of us seemed to be unaware before the show started that by standing they would force everyone behind them to stand. When we spoke to them they apologized and sat down. All in all a great crowd and a great time.

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 09:18 AM
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All you standing in the isles in the orchestra, we have a right to our seat. Iím tired of getting dirty looks because I need to get back to my seat after returning from the bathroom!

They should not sell alcohol at this event, too many drunks walking around, or should I say falling around! If they do sell it, limit the drinks to beer & wine and stop selling after the first set. It might eliminate a lot of the drunks and would certainly stop some of the in & out during the show!

Tapers, we all love ya, and Iím sure you are doing a great service, but remember, if someone wants to cheer extra loud, or whistle, itís their right, they paid for a ticket too. Iím not talking about myself by the way, just something I observed in the loge last night, remember, taping a show is a crap shoot, sometimes you get a good one & sometimes you donít.



Wow, this is what you come away from this year's amazing run of shows with? Ain't that a shame. I could see worrying over these points some other day.

But to log on after being lucky and blessed enough to be in the house for that awesome final show last night and see your post, well it just makes me feel sorry for you, to be honest.

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 09:39 AM
Well, Pete Man, don't feel soory for me, I fully enjoyed myself as did my 17 yr old son, who joined me for all 3 shows, as he did last year. If you took the time to read my 1st post, it was an observation. I was in row E, I wasn't the person in row B who had the beer spilled all over him & his jacket after the first song and had to get security to calm the situation. I was great that the same security person was standing at the bar talking to the DRUNK during the second set, while buying another 4 beers! I wonder if this beer that spilled, was spilled in the 1st row on some tapers equipment, if I would be getting a different view or different response???
 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 10:00 AM
Leaving all your other points aside, I'm real glad you enjoyed yourself and that you're passing it on to your son. But if your first post after the run is a series of complaints, you know someone COULD get the impression that you had less than a great time.

BTW, I sat in loge 2x this year and you might find fewer issues there -- plus the sound is clearer.

So on a happier note, was that show a thing of beauty or what?

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 10:25 AM
I did sit in the loge 2x & orchestra 1x. I agree, the loge is thet place to be. The show was one for the ages, it was awesome, my son who is a drummer (lessons for 6 yrs & I have played Bass for 36 yrs) actually had tears in his eyes during Don't Keep Me Wondering, Derek's solo in that is his favorite. That is the kind of emotion they bring. The tears were worth the $$
 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 10:42 AM
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Man, have I seen this discussion before!

Physically, it hurts me to stand for an entire concert. Financially, concert tickets for me are a big deal. I've been the obnoxious drunk, and I've been the sober "bitch." The music is much better when I'm sober. As for all the people blocking my view, whether they are high or straight, I just sigh and take it as part of the concert experience. It's too bad though...we don't often remember the Golden Rule at shows, it seems...if I remember that Rule, then I just try to be happy for those who can dance and jump around, and focus myself on the music...I invariably end up paying for days physically after a show, just trying to stand up as much as I can to see the musicians.

Putting up with drunks, I figure it is just my fate, after all my drinking days


Yes, I indeed agree they should close the bar after intermission. Re getting my seat back, I've found that a polite request ususally works. I can jump up an down and dance, but every once in awhile, I do need to sit down. Re tapers, the shouts on LAFE are famous - sometimes they ADD a great deal to the recording.

However, I think we're stuck with this situation - except for the bar. Maybe the band could have some say in closing the bar but I doubt it; the prices are exhorbitant and the size of the drinks are tiny. My gripe, getting doused with beer. Such is the Beacon. We get older and our tolerance goes down. However, the seat prices do go up but we pay them and the Beacon makes a fortune every ABB run. It's music, but it's also bidness.

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 10:48 AM
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Man, have I seen this discussion before!

Physically, it hurts me to stand for an entire concert. Financially, concert tickets for me are a big deal. I've been the obnoxious drunk, and I've been the sober "bitch." The music is much better when I'm sober. As for all the people blocking my view, whether they are high or straight, I just sigh and take it as part of the concert experience. It's too bad though...we don't often remember the Golden Rule at shows, it seems...if I remember that Rule, then I just try to be happy for those who can dance and jump around, and focus myself on the music...I invariably end up paying for days physically after a show, just trying to stand up as much as I can to see the musicians.

Putting up with drunks, I figure it is just my fate, after all my drinking days


good one. I especially like the "sober 'bitch'" thing.

I agree with this 100 per cent. been there, done that, hated it. ( I like REMEMBERING the show now)

 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 10:54 AM
Unfortunately, I've never been to The Beacon; what is the "loge"?
 

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  posted on 3/27/2006 at 11:30 AM
The Loge is the first level of the balcony. The first row starts about Row P in the orchestra. The Loge is a great place to enjoy any Beacon show.
 
 


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