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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 09:34 PM
Is Eric Clapton more over rated than Angus Young is under appreciated?

I think Angus rocks !!

[Edited on 3/23/2006 by Peachstatedawg]

 
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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 09:35 PM

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 09:38 PM
Angus rocks but his brother got his back with FAT rythmn guitar -- now that riffin' boy is TRULY underrated.

As for EC, I don't know the folks around here well enough to be the first to jump in and agree he's overrated, but...

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 09:40 PM
No1, I am LMFAO!!! How'd you get that image up so fast? Is that your friggin' desktop or what?

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 09:50 PM
"Is Clapton Over-rated"?....Please,that's pretty funny.

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 09:52 PM
Let's just say that he is capable of of LOT more than he usually gives, especially on CD lately.

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 09:55 PM
I don't love all of his music......

But I think he deserves all the credit he gets..........

I love his old stuff and I thought That he was damn good during The Cream reunion...

I remember an LP I had when I was a teen "The History of Eric Clapton"

Played the hell out of it........

So no.....no way...is he overated...he earned his Legendary status long ago......

[Edited on 3/23/2006 by OldDirtRoad]

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 09:58 PM
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Is Eric Clapton more over rated than Angus Young is under appreciated?

I think Angus rocks !!

[Edited on 3/23/2006 by Peachstatedawg]

that, my friend, depends on who you ask, when you ask them, their degree of sobriety, and what day of the week it is on tuesday. in other words, their is a bunch of different opinions on any given day and not a real "right" answer.

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 10:18 PM
Eric Clapton is not overrated ! He is not God either. He hated when that was being written on walls in London.

The guy has been a mainstay in this business for over 40 years. Sure he's had his ups and downs but he deserves every bit of praise he recieves . I've seen some negative comments about him from time to time on this and other sites and I don't see why. I think some people think he short changed Duane in some way who was a huge influence and main collaborator on what is probably his masterwork, Layla and other assorted Love Songs but don't see why people think he's over rated. Check out Cross Roads II or the recent Cream DVD.

Now for Angus and Malcom. I love those guys. Not technically anywhere near Clapton or the ABB boys but they sure created some of the greatest guitar hooks in rock n roll . They blew me away when I saw them live. They might not be everyone's cup of tea but they sure can fill an arena with energy !

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 10:25 PM
Clapton "overrated". Not a chance. Go get Goodbye Cream and listen to the live version of Sittin on Top of the world. That is the quintisential blues guitarist if I evern heard one. Play close attention to his guitar sound also-guys are still tring to copy the sound as well as his licks. I saw Cream last October and while EC was a bit subdued, there were plenty of signs of his guitar prowess. EC is one of my all time favorites, and as a player, I try to copy his phrasings more than anyone else. I agree that his CDs leave plently to the imagination, but as he said : "I dont have anything to prove".
 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 10:44 PM
seems like this comment might say it all

"Connect Savannah: What an opportunity, to get to work for an extended time alongside someone like Eric Clapton.

Derek Trucks: When you look back at his career, its amazing how hes kept it all together. Hes on top of his game completely clear minded and focused on what hes doing. Every once in a while hed play a solo in the studio and Id say, oh yeah, hes still got it. He never lost his edge. You cant say that for many guys whove done it as long or had as much success. Either you dont make it physically, or you cant maintain that fire. Changing it up often has done it for Eric. He surrounds himself with guys who spark his creativity. I didnt realize at first all the guys hes played with over the years. It blows your mind! From Howlin Wolf to John Lennon! (laughs) And he made it out alive."

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 10:55 PM
Clapton has been at the top of his game for 40 years. To question his talent would defy all logic. Sure some periods were better than others but the same can be said for most everyone. But he always stayed in the spotlight and maintained the high level he deserves. Clapton can flat out play. No question about it.

I have seen him many times. Some better than others but always good. These shows with Derek will be awesome.

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:02 PM
Personally I don't think Eric Clapton is overrated at all. He has had weak points in his career but his staying power and ability to play to this day is unmatched. His influence in blues rock and all music from the early 70's can not be emphasized enough. His work with Cream and Derek and the Dominos is personally my favorite, but all of his work from the late 60's to early 70's is absolutely phenomenal. His cds today aren't as mindblowing but he is still able to put on amazing live show. He has progressed in the most amazing ways through his career and produced some of the most important music in rock n' roll. Clapton is not God, but in my opinion he is one of the most important blues musicians alive today (can't say the most with guys like BB King still around). Whether his cds have faded in quality or not, his importance and legacy have not, in my opinion.

oh yeah, and i don't know too much about Angus, aside from the obvious songs, but he's never done too much for me, maybe i just haven't heard enough

[Edited on 3/23/2006 by chadwick011]

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:04 PM
I agree, CanadianMule. I can't wait, I think there will be lots of cosmic vibes going on during those shows.

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:09 PM
Eric Clapton is not at all over-rated. He's the real deal. I am so looking forward to seeing Derek play with him!

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:20 PM
completely overrated.

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:22 PM
EC is NOT over-rated. His body of work with the Bluesbreakers and Cream put him in the upper echelon of guitar greats. Hell....I picked my Strat's color based on Blackie..

HOWEVER, I will say he's gotten somehat lazy these past years (really since the 80's). I am one of the few that was a litte disappointed with recent Cream work.He tours and records a lot, but I think he could really push his playing more. He seems more into songwriting now more than tearing it up (From the Cradle being an exception) Having Derek up there should be good motivation! I know it's all there in his harddrive. He just needs to acces it more!

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:26 PM
I suppose I don't have the guitar knowledge to properly respond to this question, but as a music fan I have feelings on this.

I agree that Clapton earned his reputation long ago. I think his work with D&D is some of the best rock music ever put on an album. And I love the album he did with John Mayall as well. I like Cream, but I don't find myself jumping to put it on over other music I own. I guess I feel like he hasn't done a whole lot to build on his reputation in about 30 years. Maybe I have not heard enough, but he clearly had a monster first 15 years.....one worthy of hall of fame recognition. Those albums mentioned above are true gems!But a lot of soso stuff since. Again, speaking relatively as a fan. I don't think I could do better....in case those responses are coming. I did think the Unplugged album he did in the early '90's was very well done, the best of that series. He is an underappreciated vocalist and possibly overappreciated as a guitarist.....although a great one still.

I think he is at his best when he shares the stage, or collaborates on a record, etc. he really shines here and seems to enjoy the sharing...........I would love to see him come on stage with the Allmans. I wouldn't shell out big bucks to go to a Clapton concert or even purcahse a Clapton CD.

I have a lot of respect for him, and find that "hack" remarks I've heard over the years are unfounded. But I after 40+ years of being GREAT, I would expect to point to more than a handful of albums that did something for me. I wonder if Jimi or Duane had stayed alive if we would be asking these questions of them 35 years later. I suspect not.

So Yes and NO. I guess I didn't get off the fence. He wasn't in 1975, but he is now....how about that?

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:34 PM
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I saw an interview with EC.

He said the dog says it all.

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:49 PM
clapton gets more undeserved b.s. than any guitar player on the planet. people forget how good he is. slowhand was paying his dues when angus was in his real school boy outfit. while eric has explored a variety of styles and genre's angus has remained a hard rock one trick pony.

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:53 PM
My biggest complaint with his playing is that he seems to more interested in appealing to everybody than reaching deep inside and expressing raw emotion, the way he did with D&D and Cream and the Bluesbreakers, and on some of his early solo work. It seems once he kicked heroin he wasn't as willing to go to those dark places, which is understandable. I saw him last year and he was the best I've ever seen him live, much more spontaneous than other times, and I liked the song selection better than other tours. I think having Robert Randolph open for him kind of kicked him in the butt-when he brought RR on for the encore Robert worked real hard to shake EC out of that stiff-upper-lip British reserve that he has a tendency to hide behind. Robert got him to laugh more than I've ever seen him, and I think he needs to loosen up his playing and not be so serious. He has a habit of going on autopilot and playing the same dry riffs, unless someone wakes him up. I think Derek will perform that role for him.

I don't think anyone doubts that EC can still bring it-but he rarely does anymore and that's what can make listening to him so frustrating sometimes. Because when he REALLY wants to, he can still bring it.

I still maintain that the majority of his recent CDs (or the ones produced by the execrable Simon Climie) have been awful.

 

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  posted on 3/22/2006 at 11:56 PM
NO!
 

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  posted on 3/23/2006 at 12:06 AM
Hell no.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2006 at 12:09 AM
Just an opinion, folks. I still love him.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2006 at 12:12 AM
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I don't think anyone doubts that EC can still bring it-but he rarely does anymore and that's what can make listening to him so frustrating sometimes. Because when he REALLY wants to, he can still bring it.


what people tend to forget is that eric is a 60 year old man. he is not the 25 year old guitar slinger of the layla years. it's not as easy to bring your fastball everynight when you get older - sometimes you have to get by on your second best pitch. the b.b. king i saw in his 60's was great but i'm sure it would have been a different story if i would have been old enough to see him when he was in his 30's or 40's.

 

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