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  posted on 1/16/2006 at 12:05 AM
Is this song a Warren original or not? If it's not, who's the author? Also, any ideas who the song was written about? Thanks guys. Wish I could make it to New York this spring. Definitely looking forward to the Wanee Festival in April though.

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  posted on 1/16/2006 at 01:39 AM
Well, I answered one of my questions. It is a Haynes tune. However, my interest still remains as to whom it was written about. I'm guessing that it could just be a generalization about the rise and fall of superstars. I don't know. Any ideas?

[Edited on 1/16/2006 by debojenkins]

 

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  posted on 1/16/2006 at 02:55 AM
If you read the lyrics it is pretty obvious that the song is autobiographical.
 

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  posted on 1/16/2006 at 06:46 PM
jerry garcia. the original appears on the phil lesh and friends cd "there and back again".
 

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  posted on 1/16/2006 at 06:46 PM
jerry garcia. the original appears on the phil lesh and friends cd "there and back again".
 

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  posted on 1/17/2006 at 12:18 PM
I could see the Jerry parallel, but I'm with Amy. Warren IS "The Real Thing" and he wrote a song about it. That takes a lot of guts and confidence, but Warren doesn't lack for either.
 
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  posted on 1/17/2006 at 03:02 PM
The Real Thing
(Warren Haynes)

He wore a song around his neck
Like some medal of honor
He carried his wisdom like a knife
An empty pocket was a temporary chain
Knowing you've got it coming
Ain't no crime

Every blue note that rolled off his tongue
You could feel his soul twisting right in two
Nobody knew where he came from
Ah but everybody knew, everybody knew

He was the real thing
No doubt about it
The kind that you remember when they're gone
The real thing
Put here for a reason
We knew someday the whole world
Was going to know his name
He was the real thing

She whispered in his ear, and he heard the thunder
Singing 'bout a world he never knew
Head spinning round, he began to wonder
Was he made to love her, or born to sing the blues

He searched inside him for an answer
But all he found was a troubled mind
He left her somewhere on the blue highway
Oh it wasn't just another love that he left behind

It was the real thing
No doubt about it
The kind that you remember when it's gone
The real thing
Not like passion's fire
But a burning, smoldering, eternal flame
It was the real thing

And sometimes at night he longs for her whisper
But he hides from the dawn, 'cause he always wakes to find her gone

In some broken down dressing room in some major city
The thunder plays an old familiar tune
He spies a face of a distant angel
Outside, beneath the halo moon

Finger on the trigger, needle in the vein
One more bullet, it might be your last ride
This is ain't no no-show, this ain't no nervous breakdown
And it sure as hell ain't the time to let the fool decide

This is the real thing
No doubt about it
Who cares if they love you and you're gone
This is the real thing
So you were put here for a reason
But what gives you the right to quit when you're tired
Anyway boy, this ain't no game
This is the real thing

He wore a song around his neck
Like some medal of honor
He carried his wisdom like a knife

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The song is about giving up love or giving up a woman/relationship in order to follow his musical calling. Was he made to love her or made to sing the blues? Now why he doesn't think he can have both is puzzling but that is what the lyrics seem to be about. He was put here for a reason.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2006 at 04:44 PM
I would lean more toward Matthew's opinion. I supposed it could be autobiographical, but I have a hard time believing Warren would write a song about himself saying he was "The Real Thing". Seems more like a tribute to Jerry to me. Maybe someone can ask him some time.
 
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  posted on 1/17/2006 at 10:06 PM
While I understand someone thinking it's about Jerry, I've never actually felt that myself.

I've always picked up more of a Woody vibe from that song. I'm not sure that's what he was going for, but it's what I get.

I do remember Warren saying that the main character of the song was more of a composite of a bunch of people, and in turn, more of a universal figure going through the problems mentioned in the song as opposed to one person.

I don't know. I still pick up a Woody vibe from it.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2006 at 11:39 PM
I agree with Guyute. The song to me is all about Woody. I also heard Warren say it's a composite of several characters but to me I see Woody when I hear it. He was really the real thing.

See Patchwork Quilt for Jerry .

 

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  posted on 1/17/2006 at 11:45 PM
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While I understand someone thinking it's about Jerry, I've never actually felt that myself.

I've always picked up more of a Woody vibe from that song. I'm not sure that's what he was going for, but it's what I get.

I do remember Warren saying that the main character of the song was more of a composite of a bunch of people, and in turn, more of a universal figure going through the problems mentioned in the song as opposed to one person.

I don't know. I still pick up a Woody vibe from it.


I agree, a Woody vibe and maybe other musicians who have internalized the illusion that they were the real thing. Although they never quit when they are tired, they let life pass them by in some essential way.

I think the song is another Warren song that takes an ironic, almost cruel tone. It makes sense to see the person in the song as more of a prototype of a person who gives up a real life for a life on the road. Very sad really. Like the end for the musician in the song.

 

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  posted on 1/18/2006 at 04:27 AM
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See Patchwork Quilt for Jerry .











 

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  posted on 1/18/2006 at 11:39 AM
Fair enough. The Woody references all make sense I guess. I just don't think it's autobiographical.
 
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  posted on 1/19/2006 at 09:07 AM
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I also heard Warren say it's a composite of several characters


I would tend to agree with this statement. Warren like all good artists leaves his work up to your own interpetation. The song reminds me of a few characters that have come and gone in my life. Some having nothing to do with music, but they were "the real thing." Making life more real or better(?), but unfortunately things didn't end in the happily ever after mode or perhaps the melancholy mood of the song understates a longing for the past ... our past ... my past.

 

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  posted on 1/20/2006 at 02:12 PM
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Well, I answered one of my questions. It is a Haynes tune. However, my interest still remains as to whom it was written about. I'm guessing that it could just be a generalization about the rise and fall of superstars. I don't know. Any ideas?

[Edited on 1/16/2006 by debojenkins]


Has Warren admitted to contemplating suicide? If not, then it's most likely not about him. One more bullet it might be your last ride."

I can see the similarities to others he's written but to me it's about people that are overcome by stardom but end up alone and depressed. Hendrix comes to mind for me.

[Edited on 1/20/2006 by jessica0717]

 

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  posted on 1/20/2006 at 03:42 PM
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Well, I answered one of my questions. It is a Haynes tune. However, my interest still remains as to whom it was written about. I'm guessing that it could just be a generalization about the rise and fall of superstars. I don't know. Any ideas?

[Edited on 1/16/2006 by debojenkins]


Has Warren admitted to contemplating suicide? If not, then it's most likely not about him. One more bullet it might be your last ride."

I can see the similarities to others he's written but to me it's about people that are overcome by stardom but end up alone and depressed. Hendrix comes to mind for me.

[Edited on 1/20/2006 by jessica0717]


Just fyi - in the drug world a "bullet" means shooting up or snorting a combination of heroin and cocaine, or heroin followed by cocaine.

 

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  posted on 1/20/2006 at 05:05 PM
I agree with Angela about the drug reference....that seems to fit into the song better.

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  posted on 1/21/2006 at 10:54 AM
I think I heard Warren in an interview say that the song was a composite of many people he's known. I can see where folks get a Woody vibe, but I've heard Warren solo recordings of the tune before Woody's death.
 

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  posted on 1/21/2006 at 06:15 PM
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Well, I answered one of my questions. It is a Haynes tune. However, my interest still remains as to whom it was written about. I'm guessing that it could just be a generalization about the rise and fall of superstars. I don't know. Any ideas?

[Edited on 1/16/2006 by debojenkins]


Has Warren admitted to contemplating suicide? If not, then it's most likely not about him. One more bullet it might be your last ride."

I can see the similarities to others he's written but to me it's about people that are overcome by stardom but end up alone and depressed. Hendrix comes to mind for me.

[Edited on 1/20/2006 by jessica0717]


Just fyi - in the drug world a "bullet" means shooting up or snorting a combination of heroin and cocaine, or heroin followed by cocaine.


well, many die of overdoses which in a way is suicide. Hendrix, Moon, etc. I knew it was a metaphor.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2006 at 04:22 AM
>> > well, many die of overdoses which in a way is suicide. Hendrix, Moon, etc. I knew it was a metaphor. >>>

So true. That drug addicition is slow suicide, or"unintended suicide," as W has mentioned in one of his songs.

I think the question was if the song The Real Thing was autobiographical? I don't think it is because I don't think Warren uses hard drugs. I think there are elements that apply to Allen and I think there are elements that apply to Warren and I think there are elements that apply to people like Hendrix, Garcia, Moon, etc., elements that Warren connects to as a performer.

I also know that the song was written before 1997 when Warren first started performing it solo. Did you ever read the Relix article about the band" It was published either in late 03 or early 04, around when Andy joined the band. The whole foursome is on the cover. If not, let me know as I made some xerox copies and can send it to you.

Now this song I think is about the relationships between Warren, Matt and Allen:

Little Toy Brain
by Warren Haynes

So you thought you could handle it - yeah didn't they all
So look at the shape that you're in
But fools never compromise - they go out in flames
So out with the old, in with the new
What in the world has happened to you

What goes on in that little toy brain
Who'll sweep out the wreckage, who'll sing the refrain
And after the smoke clears - is there anything left
Did you wash it all away

So you cried like a baby asking for more - still you don't know where you've been
Ain't it high time you woke up, took a good look around
You're killing yourself - damning your soul - all in the name of sweet rock and roll

What goes on in that little toy brain
Who'll sweep out the wreckage, who'll sing the refrain
And after the smoke clears - is there anything left
Did you wash it all away

"Hold me, I'm lonely," you say to yourself
The only one who will listen now
So what does it mean when you finally explain you were never good at apologies

I've got some pride left, but it's plain to see
It's been earmarked for emergency
So what ever happened to your blind faith - did it crumble away
Like me, like me

What goes on in that little toy brain
Who'll sweep out the wreckage, who'll sing the refrain
And after the smoke clears - is there anything left
Did you wash it all away

Did you wash it all away
Did you wash it all away
Tell me what goes on in that little toy brain

 

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  posted on 1/24/2006 at 06:38 AM
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I would lean more toward Matthew's opinion. I supposed it could be autobiographical, but I have a hard time believing Warren would write a song about himself saying he was "The Real Thing". Seems more like a tribute to Jerry to me. Maybe someone can ask him some time.




actually, i'm wrong. i got mixed up with "patchwork quilt", they're both on the same cd. sorry...

 

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Now this song I think is about the relationships between Warren, Matt and Allen:

Little Toy Brain
by Warren Haynes



Some people thought this was about GW Bush but Warren said it was written some time ago. I believe he said (again) that it was a ficticious character taken from several components. That was somewhere in an interview.

 
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Now this song I think is about the relationships between Warren, Matt and Allen:

Little Toy Brain
by Warren Haynes



Some people thought this was about GW Bush but Warren said it was written some time ago. I believe he said (again) that it was a ficticious character taken from several components. That was somewhere in an interview.
Please!!! EAS!

 

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