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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 04:44 PM
Just a question completely out of curiosity.

Been listening to a lot of jazz lately. I've noticed that a number of songs on various releases are the names of musicians.

"John McLaughlin" on Miles' Bitches Brew.

"Mr. PC" (Paul Chambers) Coltrane's Giant Steps.

"Ron Carter" & "Greg Leisz" on Bill Frisell's Blues Dream.

Anyone have any idea why this is?




Personally, I think someone needs to name a song "Duane Allman," provided it's a really, really good song.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 04:51 PM
Not to mention:

Trane
Kind of Bird
Thelonius Beck

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 04:52 PM
"Trane" by Govt Mule for Jon Coltrane.

"Frisell" by the DTB...I wonder what ever happened to this one?

 
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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 04:52 PM
Mingus - Joni Mitchell

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 05:54 PM
quote:
Just a question completely out of curiosity.

Been listening to a lot of jazz lately. I've noticed that a number of songs on various releases are the names of musicians.

"John McLaughlin" on Miles' Bitches Brew.

"Mr. PC" (Paul Chambers) Coltrane's Giant Steps.

"Ron Carter" & "Greg Leisz" on Bill Frisell's Blues Dream.

Anyone have any idea why this is?
Interesting topic, Coot. In a lot of cases, jazz instrumental composers never attach titles to some songs until they really have to, like if a take is completed and considered good enough for release. Then they'll just grab a name out of the air, like maybe
* Miles was so impressed by a performance on a jam that he named it in honor of the standout player: "John McLaughlin"
* just took a look around the studio and picked a name: "Red Cross," Charlie Parker with Tiny Grimes, named for a Savoy engineer whose last name was Redcross (!)
* wanted to make a play on words: "Half Nelson," Miles (band with Bird), named for bassist Nelson Boyd

In other "name" titles, though, the composer might have had a particular musician in mind while plotting out the song, whether because
* the recording would feature that musician: "Big Paul," John Coltrane & Kenny Burrell, again for bassist Paul Chambers!
* the song was inspired by the musician: "Blues to Bechet," Coltrane Plays the Blues, in tribute to soprano saxist Sidney Bechet
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Personally, I think someone needs to name a song "Duane Allman," provided it's a really, really good song.
Does "Duane's Tune" by the Dickey Betts Band (Pattern Disruptive) count?

"· Is Duane's Tune named after Duane Allman, Duane Betts, or both? And why?

"I set out to write a tune for my son, but he's named after Duane Allman, so I really wrote it for both of them."

http://www.dickeybetts.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=FAQ&file=index&myfaq =yes&id_cat=5

There is a "Blues for Duane" by jazz trumpeter Freddie Hubbard, but I don't know what Duane it's about.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000001J17/qid=1132267237/sr= 1-69/ref=sr_1_69/102-5048418-4212162?v=glance&s=music

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 07:09 PM
BirdLand - Weather Report

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 07:24 PM
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Not to mention:

Trane
Kind of Bird
Thelonius Beck


Thelonius - Jeff Beck

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 08:11 PM
Hampmotized... Susan Tedeschi

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 08:52 PM
Paul Stanley-The Hellacopters
 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 09:00 PM
Parker's Band- Steely Dan
Sir Duke- Stevie Wonder

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 09:05 PM
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Not to mention:

Trane
Kind of Bird
Thelonius Beck


Thelonius - Jeff Beck


yes, i know the beck song thelonius. what did you mean? i was always assuming the mule song thelonius beck is a homage to thelonius monk AND jeff beck. the descending intro riff if a thelonius style and the funky movin riff is jeff beck like.

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 09:10 PM
I was just posting the JB song...I know he is not a Jazz musician but it just seemed to fit

 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 09:34 PM
MILES RUNS THE VOODOO DOWN.....
 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 10:06 PM
elvin from soul serenade
 

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  posted on 11/17/2005 at 11:46 PM
"Song for John" - Stanley Clarke

 

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  posted on 11/18/2005 at 12:20 AM
Not Jazz:

Zappa's "For Duane" (which I understand is an excerpt from one of Frank's Whipping Posts).

Still not Jazz, but closer:

Victor Wooten's "Victa"

Singing a song about himself - who does he think he is, a rapper?

 

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Not Jazz:

Zappa's "For Duane" (which I understand is an excerpt from one of Frank's Whipping Posts).

Still not Jazz, but closer:

Victor Wooten's "Victa"

Singing a song about himself - who does he think he is, a rapper?
Droogie, I think we can give at least partial credit for those titles because Zappa and Victor do play with considerable jazz sensibility.

Also, lots of jazz musicians release songs named after themselves, although, of course, they don't vocalize as obsessively and boastfully about themselves as many rappers do. Take these titles of Charlie Parker instrumental compositions:

"The Bird"
"Bird Gets the Worm"
"Blue Bird"
"Chasing the Bird"
"Ornithology"
"Yardbird Suite"

Bird's typical songwriting modus operandi lacked very elaborate preparation before recording sessions, due to the nonmusic demands on his time made by his lifestyle. I've read a lot about Charlie, and he typically is described as bringing into sessions only very rough outlines of songs, each generally consisting of only chord changes, the head (melodic theme), and a structure mapping out intro, head, solo choruses, and outro. He might have written this out just the day of the session at home, in the cab on the way over, or in the studio itself.

He usually didn't have a piece titled when the band rehearsed it and cut the track. It typically wasn't Bird who assigned the titles to "keepers," but the producer or someone else in the studio.

It should be added that Bird was extremely frustrated by this modus operandi but couldn't get out of it. On occasion he expressed to press and other musicians that he greatly admired the classical modernists, Igor Stravinsky in particular, and hoped someday to be able to really study composition in a formal way. He knew tons of theory inside out, which was partly why he could improvise so spectacularly, but he wanted to get deeper into the compositional techniques that could take his songs from catchy, quirky blowing vehicles to a higher level of overall completeness and magnificence. Still, his improvising was at an unsurpassed level, so it's not frustrating for the listener to overlook any compositional limitations as being practically irrelevant.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2005 at 07:00 AM
Blue Monk - Autobiographical? Whatever..a great song
Lester Leaps In - One of my all time favorite tunes...Lester Young, The Prez....

 

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  posted on 11/18/2005 at 07:41 AM
There are a huge number of these kinds of songs.
Bags' Groove- for Milt Jackson
Mr. Coleman To You, from John Scofield's Meant To Be album
Pat Me and Bill Me, from Scofield's Grace Under Pressure album.
John Coltrane's Like Sonny, probably about Sonny Rollins
Frizz- Mike Stern
Leni's Smile- Mike Stern (about his wife, who also happens to be a jazz guitarist)
Bud Powell- Chick Corea
Dual Mr. Anthony Tillmon Williams- Miles Davis
Django- Modern Jazz Quartet
Waltz For Monk- Mulgrew Miller
Modeen's Mood- Chris Potter (about Paul Motian)
Anything Chick Corea wrote with Armando in it (Armando's Rhumba is an example)
And unlimited others. I don't know why they do it, probably because it's tough to name a jazz tune.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2005 at 07:49 AM

The dTb used to perform a song called Shorter, written by Derek if I'm not mistaken.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2005 at 10:44 AM
Jelly Roll Blues- Jelly Roll Morton

 

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"Trane" by Govt Mule for Jon Coltrane.

"Frisell" by the DTB...I wonder what ever happened to this one?



That's one of my personal favorites. I wish they played that song more, I absolutely love it!! That song defines "subtle beauty."

As to the theme of this thread, I named myself after a jazz album... Does that count??


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  posted on 11/18/2005 at 02:22 PM
Speaking of Charlie Parker:
Parkers Band- Steely Dan

My old buddies in Chicago's own "Jump'N the Saddle Band" used to do a great version of this tune with Tom "Shoes" Trinka tearing it up on the sax. I liked their version much better than the SD version.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2005 at 03:06 PM
"Hat and Beard" by Eric Dolphy from his LP (CD) "Out to Lunch". He named it after Monk. BTW, Dolphy was a brilliant alto sax, bass clarinet, and flute player (who produced birdlike sounds on flute). At various times he played with Charles Mingus, John Coltrane, and others, as well as leading his own band.

Also, Mr. Monk's first name is spelled THELONIOUS!

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  posted on 11/18/2005 at 07:29 PM
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"Hat and Beard" by Eric Dolphy from his LP (CD) "Out to Lunch". He named it after Monk. . . .

Also, Mr. Monk's first name is spelled THELONIOUS!

Billastro
This is true, Bill, but the song Stevie Wonder wrote for Jeff Beck (I think in exchange for Jeff's appearing on Stevie's Talking Book album--is this right, Dutch? ) is titled, and spelled, "Thelonius." Jeff did it for his Blow by Blow album (1975). Must be about someone else besides Monk.

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Left: Hat and beard
Right: Porkpie hat


Since we're getting into Songs Named After Jazz Musicians' Haberdashery, Jeff's next album, Wired (1976), had Mingus's "Goodbye, Porkpie Hat" (or "Goodbye Pork-Pie Hat," or space instead of hyphen), written in honor of Lester Young. John McLaughlin had recorded a version of this song several years before, which is probably where Jeff picked up on it.

 

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