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  posted on 11/11/2005 at 08:21 PM
Listen to the Gatlinburg recordings from April, 1971 and you'll hear one of the directions the ABB would have headed, IMHO. They do a 23-minute rehearsal/workout on a John Coltrane-inspired "My Favorite Things" as well as a few other short, jazzy jams. This seems like a natural move for them, given their influences and interests

I know they performed MFT once before an audience, and I wouldn't be surprised if they continued in this vein as a broadening of what they'd been doing.

Offhand I can't think of any other primarily-rock bands, past or present, who could pull this off.

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  posted on 11/11/2005 at 08:58 PM
I agreed to your opinion of MFT from Gatlinburg Tapes.
Yes, there are no other primary-rock bands play Coltrane's tune I think, but if there might exist, Blood Sweat & Tears may have been.
I didn't check this true or not, so this is only a possibility story.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2005 at 09:46 PM
Good point. I forgot about B,S, & T, as well as Chicago. However, I don't think these bands relied on the kind of improvisation used by folks like Coltrane, Miles Davis, and so on .

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  posted on 11/11/2005 at 11:02 PM
The Rolling Stone Record guide says the ABB is what so-called Jazz-rock groups like BS & T and Chicago should have aspired towards. They do not consider those groups jazzy because they lack the improvisational component that is the key to the jazz sound. The ABB had it and has it. What else can you call Instrumental Illness but pure jazz rock fusion.

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  posted on 11/12/2005 at 09:27 AM
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Listen to the Gatlinburg recordings from April, 1971 and you'll hear one of the directions the ABB would have headed...

...Which is actually where they are right now - clearly exploring Jazz and Jazz-like improvisation. Thats why I continue to feel that the current band is closer to the "original" sound, vision, direction, intent, emotion and chemistry than any lineup since 1971. I'm sure Duane would be proud of his Brothers for following his vision...

Remember this band broke out "Afro Blue" a few times last year and clearly the Jam section of "Desdemona" has a Jazz feel with "Fave Things" quotes and teases at every turn. I happen to love "Illness" because its the most straight-ahead Jazz song the band has done to date. What I'd give to hear Duane Jamming on "Illness" today...



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  posted on 11/12/2005 at 10:16 AM
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What else can you call Instrumental Illness but pure jazz rock fusion.



Bluesion.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2005 at 10:23 AM
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Offhand I can't think of any other primarily-rock bands, past or present, who could pull this off.


hmmmn.....Derek just did it last night at the Keswick....but i suppose he is not primarily rock based..........

 

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  posted on 11/12/2005 at 12:37 PM
this is why i am so puzzled about what the brothers are releasing. They have jazz leanings so why aren't they doing full-blown versions of Impressions or My Favorite Things in concert and releasing them?
 

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  posted on 11/12/2005 at 02:59 PM
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this is why i am so puzzled about what the brothers are releasing. They have jazz leanings so why aren't they doing full-blown versions of Impressions or My Favorite Things in concert and releasing them?


Because they are still first and foremost a blues-rock band with jazz elements.

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  posted on 11/12/2005 at 04:24 PM
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Bluesion.
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  posted on 11/12/2005 at 07:45 PM
That's the main reason I don't mention the Brothers in the same sentence as other "classic" bands. They pulled off jazz/swing type jams that those others couldn't have if their career depended on it.

oh yeah, when someone asks me to describe this band, I say they're a blues-rock/jazz band!!

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  posted on 11/12/2005 at 08:43 PM
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That's the main reason I don't mention the Brothers in the same sentence as other "classic" bands. They pulled off jazz/swing type jams that those others couldn't have if their career depended on it.

oh yeah, when someone asks me to describe this band, I say they're a blues-rock/jazz band!!

[Edited on 11/13/2005 by jessica0717]


Jessica0717, you used the magic word "swing". Nobody, but nobody else swings like the ABB. The rhythms on top of rhythms, the interplay among all the musicians, the prodigious imagination in the jamming--these are hallmarks of the finest jazz, IMHO.

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  posted on 11/13/2005 at 12:31 AM
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Because they are still first and foremost a blues-rock band with jazz elements.



Again, bluesion.



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What else can you call Instrumental Illness but pure jazz rock fusion.

Bluesion.
Cool word, Zambi!


Actually, that word comes from elsewhere. I think Jaimoe, in fact. I sure as he11 didn't come up with it, although I wish I did.



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  posted on 11/13/2005 at 09:47 AM
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Because they are still first and foremost a blues-rock band with jazz elements.



Again, bluesion.



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What else can you call Instrumental Illness but pure jazz rock fusion.

Bluesion.
Cool word, Zambi!


Actually, that word comes from elsewhere. I think Jaimoe, in fact. I sure as he11 didn't come up with it, although I wish I did.



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You may not have coined the word...but it sure describes the ABB sound,IMO !!! Very cool...

 

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  posted on 11/14/2005 at 09:29 AM
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Bluesion.
Cool word, Zambi!

Man, that is a GREAT word to describe The current ABB! "Bluesion", yeah I like it. What about ^^"Egypt"^^ ??. If that isn't "Bluesion" with a mid-east twist, I don't know what is...

 
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  posted on 11/14/2005 at 11:29 AM
Bluesion! I like that too

Most "outsiders' don't realize just how jazz/rock fusion the ABB is. It's hard to convince people otherwise who are only familiar with their "hits". You have to show them.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2005 at 11:34 AM
Sure, all the jazz fusion and 'bluesion' is nice, but when are they gonna play Ramblin' man?

 

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  posted on 11/14/2005 at 11:44 AM
one word...never.
 
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  posted on 11/14/2005 at 01:37 PM
BLUESION -- that's probably the best single-word description there is of the Allman Brothers! What about Kinda Bird, inaddition to I-Illness and Egypt. As it said in Midnight Riders, "Rock bands are not supposed to be this nimble, this full of swing." What an ingenious band -- it's no wonder they're the best ever.

I wouldn't say never about Rambin Man Eddie, although it is very unlikely -- who would've thought the current ABB would ever play Blue Sky, even if it was specifically for the XM broadcast.

As the great Fats Waller once said, "One never know, do one."

 

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  posted on 11/14/2005 at 01:42 PM
Oh Yeah "BLUESION" is the hip term for sure for our ABB. And those who don't "get it" are lost in CONFUSION

 

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