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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 08:11 AM
I heard the Skynyrd | ABB dates are off in Oct. at least with Skynyrd,
I was told they aren't happening. But with these guys you never know til the last minute.
I had tickets for both NC shows & Atlanta, but will be taking the refund if it is true.

If anyone doesn't have tickets yet you may want to hold off to see if this turns out to be true, there will be alot of Skynyrd fans getting refunds, opening up some great seats for these shows.




 
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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 08:39 AM
that should make the skynyrd bashers happy.
 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 10:38 AM
I guess they won't be "singing it pretty for Altanta"

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 11:27 AM
I wouldn't put any faith in that claim until you hear it from Ticketbastard of some other reliable source.

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 11:28 AM
Oh good! Less Skynyrd fans to leave after "their" show. Sorry, I had to.

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 11:30 AM
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Oh good! Less Skynyrd fans to leave after "their" show. Sorry, I had to.

haha...so true though

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 11:36 AM
and maybe 2 ABB sets
 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 12:33 PM
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Oh good! Less Skynyrd fans to leave after "their" show. Sorry, I had to.

haha...so true though


it is true. Anyone that went to one in May or last year knows it's true. Peace

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 01:12 PM
I wish Skynyrd weren't playing at the ABB concert I'm going to in a couple weeks. Nothing against them, but I know we'll be having our share of rednecks coming out. Does Skynyrd play first? Maybe while they're playing I can go and meet Derek or Butch or Gregg. Would the classic ABB mushroom shirt get their attention over the much worn Peach truck?
 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 01:51 PM
.....from the AP wire as dated.....

Lynyrd Skynyrd Concerts Are Postponed

Aug 12, 1:44 PM (ET)
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - Lynyrd Skynyrd has postponed eight appearances this month because lead singer Johnny Van Zant has inflamed vocal cords.

The Southern rock band, best known for songs such as "Free Bird" and "Sweet Home Alabama," announced the tour schedule changes in a posting Thursday on their Web site.

"Johnny Van Zant, found by Vanderbilt Voice Center to be suffering from 'significant vocal cord inflammation and swelling,' will be unable to perform several upcoming shows, following doctor's orders for strict vocal rest," the statement said.

Concerts had been scheduled in Ohio, Missouri, Illinois, Tennessee, Texas and Oklahoma.

The band will share a co-headlining bill with The Allman Brothers Band on five dates in September, their Web site said.

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 02:26 PM
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because lead singer Johnny Van Zant has inflamed vocal cords.


Not like we'd be able to tell anyway

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 02:36 PM
IF...... JVZ's condition doesn't improve by Oct.1 Would the ABB concert in Atlanta become An Evening With ?

[Edited on 8/21/2005 by Peachstatedawg]

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 02:40 PM
I was planning on not seeing the Brothers in Charlotte this year because they were sharing the bill with LS. If LS drops out, I'll go.


 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 02:56 PM
Just my 2 cents worth here...

Love 'em or hate 'em, LS has their place in the rock and roll hierarchy.

Definition according to dictionary.com - Categorization of a group of people according to ability or status.

It is a fact that the ABB and LS audiences are very different, yet there are folks who dig both bands. WHY must we have the division between the audiences that we have? Do you think LS fans wring their hands whenever one of the members of ABB has a problem and can't make a show? Granted, there is a pool of back up instrumentalists the ABB can pull from when a key member, like Warren or Derek, is unable to make a show, as evidensed recently by Warren's week long absence.

Johnny VanZant is the front man for LS, both visually and vocally, due to his uncanny resemblance to his late brother. If he has issues with his vocal chords, let's wish him a speedy recovery.

Please PLEASE let's stop the Skynyrd bashing. It just ain't right.

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 03:05 PM
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Just my 2 cents worth here...

Love 'em or hate 'em, LS has their place in the rock and roll hierarchy.

Definition according to dictionary.com - Categorization of a group of people according to ability or status.

It is a fact that the ABB and LS audiences are very different, yet there are folks who dig both bands. WHY must we have the division between the audiences that we have? Do you think LS fans wring their hands whenever one of the members of ABB has a problem and can't make a show? Granted, there is a pool of back up instrumentalists the ABB can pull from when a key member, like Warren or Derek, is unable to make a show, as evidensed recently by Warren's week long absence.

Johnny VanZant is the front man for LS, both visually and vocally, due to his uncanny resemblance to his late brother. If he has issues with his vocal chords, let's wish him a speedy recovery.

Please PLEASE let's stop the Skynyrd bashing. It just ain't right.


Well said BigDave......

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 03:08 PM
Have to agree with you Dave, bashing LS isn't all that cool. Truth is, they're a working band who delivers the type of shows their fans want. The ABB is fortunate that they are type of band that can play a more blues/jazz improvation type of music and be accepted. Most bands don't get to do that, instead they have to go out and do the "hits", and do 'em pretty much the way the fans remember them. The fact that LS still go out and does that and maintains a pretty substainable fan base says something. And like you, I wish Johnny a speedy recovery.
 
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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 03:14 PM
It's the fact that they call themselves Skynyrd. It's a joke. they don't play with the passion, and fire that the 70's lineup did. Besides, they only have 2 guitarists and many have said Gary Rossington doesn't play inspired very much. I have all of this lineup's albums and I loved Vicious Cycle but they need to quit if you ask me. I saw them last year and they were decentbut the ABB smoked them. Ronnie Van Zant was one of the best lead singers and Johnny will never be the leader that his late brother was, and I can accept that but I think this band is a joke and embarrasment to the Skynyrd legacy. If Ed King and Artimus Pyle were asked back, that would be totally different. Until then, I'm not buying this band as "Skynyrd."

[Edited on 8/21/2005 by jessica0717]

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 03:18 PM
Johnny VanZant is the front man for LS, both visually and vocally, due to his uncanny resemblance to his late brother. If he has issues with his vocal chords, let's wish him a speedy recovery.

Please PLEASE let's stop the Skynyrd bashing. It just ain't right.
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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 04:09 PM
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It's the fact that they call themselves Skynyrd. It's a joke. they don't play with the passion, and fire that the 70's lineup did. Besides, they only have 2 guitarists and many have said Gary Rossington doesn't play inspired very much. I have all of this lineup's albums and I loved Vicious Cycle but they need to quit if you ask me. I saw them last year and they were decentbut the ABB smoked them. Ronnie Van Zant was one of the best lead singers and Johnny will never be the leader that his late brother was, and I can accept that but I think this band is a joke and embarrasment to the Skynyrd legacy. If Ed King and Artimus Pyle were asked back, that would be totally different. Until then, I'm not buying this band as "Skynyrd."

[Edited on 8/21/2005 by jessica0717]


OK, look at it this way, jessica0717. Fast forward 28 years to today, from when the "real" Lynyrd Skynyrd band ceased to exist. Look at what THEY have been through. A plane crash that killed THREE band members in one fell swoop. Then the automoblie crash that ultimately took the life of another beloved founding and key member.

Now, if you will look at the similarities to the original ABB, they lost two original members within 13 months of each other, they are also estranged from a beloved original band member, yet both of these bands still have an audience, both old and new, and both bands are still making music when the odds were stacked against them. Whether they are playing to the same crowd or not, meaning are the two bands playing to the same audience, there are so many similarities between these two bands, and I believe, and correct me if I am wrong here, that the reason why there is a crossover audience is for that EXACT reason. The two bands share an awful lot of similarities where they faced tragedy head on and CONQUERED it.

Jessica0717, look at the last few lines lines of your reply to my earlier post.

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I saw them last year and they were decent but the ABB smoked them. Ronnie Van Zant was one of the best lead singers and Johnny will never be the leader that his late brother was, and I can accept that but I think this band is a joke and embarrasment to the Skynyrd legacy. If Ed King and Artimus Pyle were asked back, that would be totally different. Until then, I'm not buying this band as "Skynyrd."


OK, we know Ed King and Artimus Pyle are estranged members of the original LS band.

Couldn't the same be said about The ABB??? Replace a few words and see if it applies to the ABB. "Duane Allman was one of the best slide guitarists and Derek Trucks will never be the guitarist that Duane Allman was, and I can accept that but I think this band is a joke and embarrasment to the Allman Brothers Band legacy."

Take it one step further. "If Dickey Betts and (for the sake of humor) Mike Lawler were asked back, that would be totally different. Until then, I'm not buying this band as "The Allman Brother Band."

Bands evolve. There are few, if any, of the great bands from the 70's whose original lineup remain intact, including The Rolling Stones.

I look at it like this. The current lineup of The Allman Brothers Band is every bit as good as the original lineup. Consider the ages of the original members when they were in their hayday. They were, for all intents and purposes, just babies. Look at the ages of the current lineup. They have wisdom on their side now.

Now, look at the current lineup of Lynyrd Skynyrd. They, like the Allman Brothers, have endured radical changes, and tragedies that would have shut lesser groups down, if faced with similar tragedy. Are the ABB and LS really THAT different? Musically, they are, but spiritually, I think they are one in the same....survivors who are still holding on to that rock and roll dream.

And for holding on to that rock and roll dream, and trying to please their respective audiences, they are BOTH to be commended.

 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 04:21 PM
Dave, with all do respect, these two bands aren't comparable. Derek Trucks is not the exact player that Duane was but can easily play his solos. Dickey has no one but himself to blame for his position. People that don't think this band is genuine just don't know what went on and probably didn't bother to look in to why Dickey was let go. The difference is Warren and Derek are doing things that are beyond what the original lineup did technically, but the Skynyrd guys aren't anywhere close to what the original band did. Ed King and Artimus are playing together along with other "southern rock" musicians. I do like Rickey Medlocke a lot!!

BTW, I hope you're collarbone is healing ok, Dave. I was really looking forward to Skynyrd last year in Charlotte and was not let down. I just think enough is enough. One of the reasons their still playing is their fans and the state of rock n roll. I also have read that Judy said it's sickening that they are still playing under their name.

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 04:47 PM
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It's the fact that they call themselves Skynyrd. It's a joke. they don't play with the passion, and fire that the 70's lineup did. Besides, they only have 2 guitarists and many have said Gary Rossington doesn't play inspired very much. I have all of this lineup's albums and I loved Vicious Cycle but they need to quit if you ask me. I saw them last year and they were decentbut the ABB smoked them. Ronnie Van Zant was one of the best lead singers and Johnny will never be the leader that his late brother was, and I can accept that but I think this band is a joke and embarrasment to the Skynyrd legacy. If Ed King and Artimus Pyle were asked back, that would be totally different. Until then, I'm not buying this band as "Skynyrd."

[Edited on 8/21/2005 by jessica0717]


OK, look at it this way, jessica0717. Fast forward 28 years to today, from when the "real" Lynyrd Skynyrd band ceased to exist. Look at what THEY have been through. A plane crash that killed THREE band members in one fell swoop. Then the automoblie crash that ultimately took the life of another beloved founding and key member.

Now, if you will look at the similarities to the original ABB, they lost two original members within 13 months of each other, they are also estranged from a beloved original band member, yet both of these bands still have an audience, both old and new, and both bands are still making music when the odds were stacked against them. Whether they are playing to the same crowd or not, meaning are the two bands playing to the same audience, there are so many similarities between these two bands, and I believe, and correct me if I am wrong here, that the reason why there is a crossover audience is for that EXACT reason. The two bands share an awful lot of similarities where they faced tragedy head on and CONQUERED it.

Jessica0717, look at the last few lines lines of your reply to my earlier post.

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I saw them last year and they were decent but the ABB smoked them. Ronnie Van Zant was one of the best lead singers and Johnny will never be the leader that his late brother was, and I can accept that but I think this band is a joke and embarrasment to the Skynyrd legacy. If Ed King and Artimus Pyle were asked back, that would be totally different. Until then, I'm not buying this band as "Skynyrd."


OK, we know Ed King and Artimus Pyle are estranged members of the original LS band.

Couldn't the same be said about The ABB??? Replace a few words and see if it applies to the ABB. "Duane Allman was one of the best slide guitarists and Derek Trucks will never be the guitarist that Duane Allman was, and I can accept that but I think this band is a joke and embarrasment to the Allman Brothers Band legacy."

Take it one step further. "If Dickey Betts and (for the sake of humor) Mike Lawler were asked back, that would be totally different. Until then, I'm not buying this band as "The Allman Brother Band."

Bands evolve. There are few, if any, of the great bands from the 70's whose original lineup remain intact, including The Rolling Stones.

I look at it like this. The current lineup of The Allman Brothers Band is every bit as good as the original lineup. Consider the ages of the original members when they were in their hayday. They were, for all intents and purposes, just babies. Look at the ages of the current lineup. They have wisdom on their side now.

Now, look at the current lineup of Lynyrd Skynyrd. They, like the Allman Brothers, have endured radical changes, and tragedies that would have shut lesser groups down, if faced with similar tragedy. Are the ABB and LS really THAT different? Musically, they are, but spiritually, I think they are one in the same....survivors who are still holding on to that rock and roll dream.

And for holding on to that rock and roll dream, and trying to please their respective audiences, they are BOTH to be commended.



It was true of the ABB circa 1975. The momentum they built with Duane and Berry carried them through 1974 and Eat a Peach and Brothers and Sisters. But after that it was never the same until the re-birth in 1989 with the inspiration of Warren Haynes and Allen Woody, particularly Warren. Nevertheless, even in the bad years, the ABB always put out new music and attempted to be a recording band even if it was largely mediocre. It was good fortune that they hooked up with the right people in 1989 and then again in 1997 and forward to make the ABB what it is today. Hittin the Note proves the ABB is still a viable recording group. To me, Skynyrd is on par with the Marshall Tucker Band, The Outlaws and all the other oldies acts just getting by by having new professional musicians play the old hits. Nothing wrong with that as long as you accept what you are getting. I don't want to pay $50 a ticket or more to see that. I love Skynyrd but I will listen to them on disc. We are so fortunate to have the Allmans around and it surely won't last forever. If you think about the history, the drug and alcoho l buse and where the band and its members were at in 1983, it is really a miracle. Who could have predicted it and I am sure wherever they are, if they can see it, Duane and Berry are smiling.

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 04:57 PM
Uhhh, Skynyrd is a recording band too. They have been much more prolific than the ABB in the past 2 decades, and as it happens their new music is very good.
 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 05:20 PM
Sorry to correct you on a point of semantics, OTF, but Rocking Horse was written by Warren for the ABB for one of the Warren-Dickey albums, I forget which one. I'm pretty sure it's actually older than 1995.
 

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 05:21 PM
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Dave, with all do respect, these two bands aren't comparable. Derek Trucks is not the exact player that Duane was but can easily play his solos.


No, but who do you think was Derek's inspiration? It is no coincidense that Derek Trucks father is Butch Trucks' brother. Where do you think Derek got HIS name? From Derek and the Dominos? YES. Duane Allman was all over that album, and made the sessions productive, in spite of heavy heroin use. It's ironic that Derek has a brother named Duane, but Derek is the slide prodigy.

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Dickey has no one but himself to blame for his position.


Dickey's struggle with the demon alcohol is well publicized. No one disputes that. Dickey is, however, one bad ass songwriter. Who wrote all the famous instrumentals for the group? Except for Little Martha, Dickey is mostly credited for that.

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People that don't think this band is genuine just don't know what went on and probably didn't bother to look in to why Dickey was let go.


There is no arguement that the current lineup is genuine. Again, Dickey's dismissal has been discussed time and again on this forum.

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The difference is Warren and Derek are doing things that are beyond what the original lineup did technically, but the Skynyrd guys aren't anywhere close to what the original band did.


Well, consider the ages of the original members of the ABB, and look at the current member's ages. With age comes wisdom. Duane and BO were both 24 when they died, but they were on top of their game even back then. THEY laid the ground work that the current incarnation of the group plants their own success on. There is no doubt that Warren and Derek were inspired to play by the original members of ABB.

*I had a really long and thoughtful, as well as passionate response written to jessica0717's reply to my post, and somehow it got lost as I hit POST REPLY. I am so effing mad that it got lost that all I could come up with was this from memory. I have to go calm down. I was cussing so loudly that I scared my dog. He probably thinks he is going to die soon.*

But I do remember posting to jessica0717, "If what I said in my earlier post was lost on you, there is no way we can ride together to ATL for the 10/1 show. So go back, reread my post, and stew on it. I am NOT trying to compare the bands musically, but if you don't "get" what I am saying as to the similarities of the two bands, as far as living through and continuing on in the face of tragedy, there is no hope. It's not about music as much as it is shared circumstances. Both bands went through hell, and survived. I can't make it any more simpler than that.

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  posted on 8/21/2005 at 05:33 PM
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*I had a really long and thoughtful, as well as passionate response written to jessica0717's reply to my post, and somehow it got lost as I hit POST REPLY. I am so effing mad that it got lost that all I could come up with was this from memory. I have to go calm down. I was cussing so loudly that I scared my dog. He probably thinks he is going to die soon.*



LMFAO Dave!I hate when that happens.Talk about wasted words

 
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