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  posted on 8/14/2005 at 11:01 PM
I wanted to start this thread to get opinions and discussion about this venue. After seeing many years of shows @ Chicago Theatre I have to say I was very dissapointed with Rosemont.(not the perfomance, the venue).The show was amazing. I'll review both Fri and Sat. tommorow because i just got back to Mpls. and need some rest from the weekend.

First the positives.
Sound is very good.
Lots of space to get to seats/lots of aisle space.
Great sitelines
Plenty of Hotels walking distance away

Negatives
Security was more intense than some Airports
I dont bring anything illegal or dangerous to venues, but this security was ridiculous.
Not being able to bring a drink to your seat is a real bummer.
Location is okay, but being downtown has so much more to offer.

What do you all think of the venue



 
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  posted on 8/14/2005 at 11:37 PM
I don't remember the security being tough last year- what did they do?

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 09:39 AM
Either security at Rosemont was completely inconspicuous Saturday, or I was just not concerned with them at all, so I didn't notice them at all at any time. Are you counting helpful ushers?

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 09:42 AM
i noticed one guy making people sit down...but he was asked to do that by others

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 11:16 AM
Rosemont is a generic theater...nothing like the character of the Chicago Theater or Beacon. That would be my only beef with it.

But the sound and views were awesome.

The only security I noticed all night was when we walked in and got the pat down...seemed pretty tame to me.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 11:32 AM
I didn't have any problems with the security.
I walked in and was patted down and that was the last i saw of them.
I sat in the balcony and it was "smoker friendly" to say the least.
I will say i didn't like the no drinks in the theatre policy,but besides that it was an excellent night.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 11:47 AM
I saw what I thought was fairly oppressive behavior toward the end of the show--it looked like a few bouncers were kicking out aisle dancers--but maybe they were doing more and I just didn't see it.

I don't think the Rosemont is the kind of place where "smoking" is tolerated, so I guess you have to abstain or suffer the consequences, if that's your thing.

On the other hand, my dad lost his ticket when he had to take a camera back to the car, and he talked his way back in without it. There was at least one very nice security guy working there.

[Edited on 8/15/2005 by aekdbmoid]

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 02:07 PM
As Dennis Miller would say, I don't want to get off on a rant here....but I posted on the Rosemont roll call thread about this very issue. I sat in an aisle seat about 5 rows in front of the back door downstairs. There were people getting harrassed by security and tossed out left and right. Telling people to sit down at a concert is both futile and **** . If you want to sit down and be entertained go to a play or to the movies. Don't complain to security and spoil other people's night out. Stay at home. You are ruining other people's good times. This is an ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND ROCK CONCERT, for Chrissake, not a performance of Vivaldi's Four Seasons by the goddam Chicago Symphony Orchestra. The whole purpose of attending such an event is to get down and boogie! How the hell are you supposed to sit down when the band is peaking during "Jessica"? If you were one of the people who complained to security about people getting up and dancing you don't deserve to have your ears graced with the musical stylings of America's #1 live band anymore. May your CD player be forever stuck on a J-Lo album!
 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 02:14 PM
Perhaps we should discuss whether to sit or stand at a show. I can't remember that ever being discussed here.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 02:51 PM
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Perhaps we should discuss whether to sit or stand at a show. I can't remember that ever being discussed here.

LOL

Not to add to this part of the discussion, but I actually saw security "tell" someone to sit down like pgroark posted

My friend was recovering from broncitis and had some over the counter meds with and they almost didnt let him in. A little exageration on my part but come on, It says what the name is right on them.

I guess it just isnt as fan friendly as many other venues. Thank god the show rocked.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 03:10 PM
Here's my whole take on the sitting/standing thing. I much much much prefer to sit. I don't boogie. I watch and listen to artists at work. So, someone standing in front of me and obstructing my view is diminishing my enjoyment of the show, which isn't right.

However, me nagging at somebody to sit down or calling security to make them sit or throw them out or whatever would be detracting from their enjoyment of the show, which wouldn't be right, either.

The preference to sit or stand during a show is just that, a preference. You can't say that and ABB show is "this" type of event, so "this" is the acceptable behavior, and if you don't agree, then you should go to "that" type of event instead. Nothing personal, pgroark, but your statement simply reflects your own preference, which might also be the preference of the majority, it might even be the preference of the vast majority. That does not mean, however, that all ABB fans must either subscribe to that view or stay home.

I don't know what the solution is. I do know what my solution is, and that is to do what I wish, which is to sit as much as I like, and stand for such moments when I feel it is necessary to do so. If that happens to be for more than a minute or so, I'll glance behind me to see whether the people in the next few rows behind me are sitting or standing. If I am obstructing someone's view, I will absolutely sit down. I find that most people tend to act the same way. They'll stand for the first song, song and a half, or two songs, and then glance behind them. If everybody is standing behind them, then they'll say "great," and stand and boogie away. If people behind them are sitting, then they'll also sit (this argument tends not to pertain to the orchestra pit and first few rows of the main floor).

I'm not the 10-20-50 or so shows-a-year guy that some are, but I've been to a good number of rock and blues show, and I've never had a situation where my enjoyment of a show was seriously hampered by people standing in front of me. Perhaps I've been lucky in that regard. I've been mildly annoyed on occasion by people that stand a little too much, but hey, who the heck am I to spoil their good time? I don't sweat the small stuff.

Of course, this all falls apart with GA, stand or sit on the floor shows. Frankly, unless it's the DTB (for whom I will endure the pain of three hours or so on my feet (real pain, I will be walking back to the car or train at a slow limp)), I tend not to go to those shows anymore.

BTW, if you see threads where it seems like everybody in the area is going to a show except your humble narrator, that will usually (but not always) be the reason.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 03:18 PM
Droog brings up very valid reasons for sitting. There's plenty more. Some people may have bad backs or knees and physically can't stand up for three hours even if it IS a rock and roll show.

I guess, given the choice, I'd rather stand and let the music move me a bit, but I realize that not everyone wants or can stand and they have every right to a good line of sight to the stage as I do.

At the Rosemont show I sat up in the balcony for the entire show and it was one of the most enjoyable shows I've been to...it was a top 10 show for sure....and I sat down the whole time...

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 03:38 PM
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I'm not the 10-20-50 or so shows-a-year guy that some are, but I've been to a good number of rock and blues show, and I've never had a situation where my enjoyment of a show was seriously hampered by people standing in front of me. Perhaps I've been lucky in that regard. I've been mildly annoyed on occasion by people that stand a little too much, but hey, who the heck am I to spoil their good time? I don't sweat the small stuff.




If it gets annoying I just ask if they will move to the aisle or to the side. I don't try to stop them but hey we can all compromise some.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 04:09 PM
Marley (and everyone), security was WAY worse this year than last... I believe Chicago just went on a "high security alert", which can be my only explaination... However, I didn't bring anything illegal and I went my seat and watched the show, therefore I had no problems and cannot complain about it. It just took a little longer to get in the door, and the guy was a little ridiculous searching me... But, the show was worth it.

As a venue, I can agree on a lot of points. Not being in the city, has it's cons, but also, I think its easier to just go to the venue and park and not worry about city traffic. And I hate to say this, but I have had better sound experiences the last two years at Rosemont than at the Chicago Theatre (except when I had center seats at Chicago). The thing is that the sound was always great at Chicago Theatre, but in certain areas I sat in, it was too quiet, I heard more of the audience talking than I did the show! But at Rosemont, the last two years, maybe the "mix" wasn't as good, but it was always loud enough to hear what was going on.

The Chicago Theatre, is a BEAUTIFUL more classic theatre, for sure, which if that's important, then it BLOWS away Rosemont. But I can't really see any other reason to really care. It's really a toss-up for me. As long as they are playing a Theatre, I'm happy.

One more point about security. On some levels, that kind of security bothers me. But on other levels I don't mind. Like I said, I go to see the show. I don't drink beer there and I don't smoke pot there. I want to see and HEAR the band play, so I'm not talking about the movie I just saw or why my friend's girlfriend dumped him. And the last couple shows at Chicago Theatre, I was getting very upset, because at two shows (one in 2002 and one in 2003) a fight broke out near me. Another one, I had a crazy whistler, SCREACHING In my ear and falling into me the whole night. And another night someone kept dancing into my seat and spilled beer on me... I don't like to complain about those things, because I've come to expect them, but when the audience is just digging the music, then I'm happiest...

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 04:24 PM
Droog, - good points about sitting and standing and I understand your position. My point is, when I do sit, I could care less if people are standing and dancing in front of me, particularly at a rock concert. When my legs are achy, I sit down, listen, and let the other brothers and sisters go ahead and enjoy themselves. To complain to security about people dancing at an event like this is a little ridiculous, in my opinion. That's so not rock and roll. If people are spilling beer and being obnoxious a-holes that is another situation. Having said all that, I maintain my stance (pardon the pun) that if you expect people to sit down at an Allman Brothers concert you're expecting too much. Rather than ruin someone elses night you should just stay home and listen to your Gordon Lightfoot or James Taylor records.
 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 04:47 PM
Now at a James Taylor concert, on the other hand, that's where you'll see me REALLY get down!

I kind of see a crowd dynamic thing gowing on, and I think most folks are cool rolling with the vibe in their area. I mean if you're in row ten, and everybody in rows 10-15 is standing, and you're sitting there pissed because you're either forced to stand or not able to see if you sit, then you're simply being unrealistic in your expectations. However, if you're in the balcony and everybody's cool with sitting except for the two morons directly in front of you, well, that's a different issue. I think these things tend to level out over the course of an evening.

I remember when I was about 18 or 19, I went to see Ronnie James Dio at the UIC Pavilion. I was way the hell up in the balcony off to one side, but still, nobody was sitting anywhere in the joint. The people who were standing up were pissed at the people in front of them who were standing on their seats . . . it was kind of funny.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 05:29 PM
security? there was security? i didnt notice.....but then again i didnt notice the crowd either....i guess i woulda had to turn around to see anyone but the band

security did harrass my date quite a bit for disks in his back pocket though.....

and the fact that you couldnt even bring a bottle of water inside was a bit absurb....i was about to ask Gregg for a tag off his drink....

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 05:54 PM
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Droog, - good points about sitting and standing and I understand your position. My point is, when I do sit, I could care less if people are standing and dancing in front of me, particularly at a rock concert. When my legs are achy, I sit down, listen, and let the other brothers and sisters go ahead and enjoy themselves. To complain to security about people dancing at an event like this is a little ridiculous, in my opinion. That's so not rock and roll. If people are spilling beer and being obnoxious a-holes that is another situation. Having said all that, I maintain my stance (pardon the pun) that if you expect people to sit down at an Allman Brothers concert you're expecting too much. Rather than ruin someone elses night you should just stay home and listen to your Gordon Lightfoot or James Taylor records.


Don't get me wrong on that issue. I stood the whole night. I don't have a problem with people standing or sitting, or even dancing in their own space. - If security is having a problem with people standing or doing anything LEGAL in their seat, that's an issue. That is a big issue!

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 06:25 PM
so if you are in the front row, are you supposed to sit?

if so....sorry Chitown

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 06:44 PM
Linnie, were you in the regular front row or the orchestra pit front row with the fold-up seats?? I was in the pit last year and my wife caught Warren's guitar pick. She nearly had to beat up a biker for it too! I've been front row for them before. It's awfully nice.
 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 08:08 PM
Another thing; thank you to the nice couple from Indiana we met at Maria's pre-show on Saturday night. These lovely people gave us a half-pitcher of margaritas they could not finish.
God bless you.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 09:22 PM
My solution to the the sittin and standin issue, is to make sections for the sitters and sections for the standers. The sitters can sit together with the other sitters in half the place. And the standers can stand in the other half the place with other standers.Doubt it will ever happen. Im a stander and i have a bad back, it has the opposite effect to what somebody mentioned i gotta stand. What bothers me is alot places they will act like you are some type of evil outcast because you want to stand,even when you move somewhere where your not blocking anyones view (i am considerate of that).It's a concert not the movie or the opera. At a recent Greg show in Philly last Jan Greg commented that the place was like a morgue don't think anyone understood cause they all sat there till the last song.
 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 09:34 PM
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and the fact that you couldnt even bring a bottle of water inside was a bit absurb....i was about to ask Gregg for a tag off his drink....


I wonder if I was even at the same show as everyone else who's commented on the tight security. I walked right in the front door WITHOUT BEING SEARCHED ( my stash was well hidden so they weren't gonna find it anyway ) while HOLDING A HALF FULL BOTTLE OF WATER. I then proceeded down to the floor to my seat with bottle in hand. It could've been filled with vodka and no one would've been the wiser....

BTW, Gregg kept switching between cups...do you think he had alcohol in one of them?

 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 10:07 PM
No, I don't think Gregg had booze in any of his cups, maybe the Brother just likes drinking out of a lot of cups. I had the treat of talking briefly with him after the show, he was super friendly and chatted and shook hands with everyone.......PEACE....Joe
 

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  posted on 8/15/2005 at 10:32 PM
I'm mostly a stander, but I was feeling it enough to sit down some of the time. I'd been on my feet the whole night before at the Sonny Landreth show, and I got a workout! Like I told Sandman Saturday, it was a sauna in the Cubby Bear, and I told a friend afterwards, "I'd take off my shirt, but I wouldn't want anybody to think I was a White Sox fan!" She goes, "Oh, you like the White Sox?" "No!" "Do you like the Cubs?" "No!" . . .

Anyway, at Rosemont my legs were a bit drilled from the night before, but standing was doable. There were no local problems between standers and sitters, even though once I was a rare stander for our area, and during the whole drum trio, I was sitting on my armrest while most of the whole floor (oh, except for Linnie and Susie up there!) was sitting.

The only problem was my row had a downward slant, so after standing a while with so much of your weight going into the front of your feet, you just got to sit and wiggle them dogs!

 

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