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  posted on 7/18/2005 at 04:09 PM
I have been playing one of the Instant Live CD's for a few months now and I can't get enough of this song. In your humble opinion ( or not so humble ) what's the best Instant Live version of this song you've heard.

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  posted on 7/18/2005 at 04:25 PM
...Well, its not an Instant Live, but if you have the great audience recording of 3/19/04, you'll hear a positively SMOKIN' version which they opened that incredible show with...Derek simply melted his solo.
 
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  posted on 7/18/2005 at 04:42 PM
Eddie, how does that version compare to Fillmore East?

 

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  posted on 7/18/2005 at 04:45 PM
I don't think you can compare them. Different time, different players...FE is amazing obviously...3/19/04 is awfully good.
I just tried to answer the question as best I could since he was obviously looking for a recent version..

 
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  posted on 7/18/2005 at 05:42 PM
I don't think Duane ever played slide on YDLM. Maybe I'm wrong...

 

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  posted on 7/18/2005 at 05:46 PM
ditto that whole soul serenade thing is phenomenal to say the least. It seems like thats one of the few things they could bust out with nowadays that they havent already done. Some of the most beautiful and capturing guitar work by anyone,ever. And not just duane at that. Dickey's sections in those old ydlm are just as good imo. I would pay really good money to hear those guys do that nowadays. peace
 

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  posted on 7/18/2005 at 06:42 PM
i would pay good money for them not to play it with a swing feel. it was totally burning in 71
 

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  posted on 7/18/2005 at 07:18 PM
8-26-71 is my favorite version of this song. Duane talks about King Curtis's death, and then they play a simply awesome YDLM>Soul Serenade>YDLM.
 

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 12:59 AM
BlueFinch, you're right. Or I should say at least this: Duane does not play slide at all on the two versions of "You Don't Love Me" from (1) At Fillmore East and (2) the Dreams and new Chronicles boxes. I don't know about other performances, though. For example, the Fillmore "YDLM" was actually spliced together from two separate performances during that stand, but Duane's not playing slide on either:
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=v iewthread&tid=14375

LiveIllusion, there's a recent thread in the "Duane Allman" section that gets pretty in-depth on these two "main" releases of "You Don't Love Me":
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=v iewthread&tid=30882

Someplace in the "Duane" section (?) there's a thread with more info on the two performances that went into the familiar Fillmore version, but I don't see it right off. It's something like this: One set's performance is what you hear through the vocal verses and Duane's second full-band solo. Then the other performance picks up from there, with Duane's a capella solo and the rest, through to the conclusion. The rare quad version of At Fillmore East has one solid performance from beginning to end (different start, then familiar a capella solo etc.); I don't know where the post-verse sections from the other set can be found, if anywhere.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 01:12 AM
7/15/05 is pretty damn good.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 08:56 AM
On the Fillmore Concerts cd, YDLM starts off with the crowd clapping and Duane and Dickey noodling, then the whole band just jumps on a romp that doesn't end until 20 or so minutes later!! Freakin amazing. My question is this, and mind you I have WORN OUT several different fillmore discs... After Duane's capella solo, isn't that Dickey wailing for the next 5 to ten minutes with the drums in the background, kind of like a deep fried southern version of Clapton's Steppin Out with Cream? I know someone on here has the answer.


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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 09:06 AM
I agree with Eddie, 3/19/04 is a great version. To hear an extended version done by the current band, check out 3/22/04, I believe it goes something like YDLM->jam->whipping post jam->end of black hearted woman jam->YDLM. And yes, those versions from LAFE and 8/26/71 are quite good. The perfect example, if anybody has the new issue of Miles' "Kind of Blue," of what it says in the liner notes (mind you, to the greatest jazz album ever): Duane Allman was the only guitarist you could listen to vamp on 1 chord for half an hour and not get bored. Or something like that. But pretty high praise, and it shows on that tune.
 

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 09:35 AM
STONYBROOK. So out there. Minutes 18-23 (roughly) are unlike any ABB, ever.
 

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 09:37 AM
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it's impossible to compare You Don't Love Me of old (duane era) to new YDLMs because the whole form of the song has changed. It used to be a showstopping exhibition of Duane's slide prowess,
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No slide on any version I've heard with Duane.....

[Edited on 7/19/2005 by goldtop]

 

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 09:43 AM
Out of the 12-15 IL's I own from 2003-2004, my favorite version is without a doubt 7-26-03 Pittsburgh. Not only is the performance amazing (particularly DT), but IMO the 2003 IL's had the best sound quality. My favorite IL's as far as performance and sound are probably those first couple from 2003 - Indy and Pittsburgh.

 

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 09:50 AM
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it's impossible to compare You Don't Love Me of old (duane era) to new YDLMs because the whole form of the song has changed. It used to be a showstopping exhibition of Duane's slide prowess,
Marc


No slide on any version I've heard with Duane.....



...Very true, Duane NEVER played slide on YDLM so the poster may have been confused.

On a side note, I never get tired of talking about the brilliance of Derek Trucks and just how much he truly means to this current incarnation of THe ABB. The point is: Derek plays incredible slide guitar on songs that Duane never even attempted to play slide on...YDLM, Whipping Post, Liz Reed and even Strorm Monday which has some tricky chord changes for slide are all showcases for Derek's fire and ice approcah to slide playing. It's just another exapmle of how Derek, although clearly influenced by Duane has clearly established his own voice in The ABB, while never straying too far from the unmistakable sound we've all grown up with...

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 10:00 AM
On the Fillmore Concerts cd, YDLM starts off with the crowd clapping and Duane and Dickey noodling, then the whole band just jumps on a romp that doesn't end until 20 or so minutes later!! Freakin amazing. My question is this, and mind you I have WORN OUT several different fillmore discs... After Duane's capella solo, isn't that Dickey wailing for the next 5 to ten minutes with the drums in the background, kind of like a deep fried southern version of Clapton's Steppin Out with Cream? I know someone on here has the answer.

I believe the start of YDLM is just Duane and Iím not sure Iíd call that noodling. Heís setting up the song with his incredibly funky riffs that just get your whole being shakiní. Then the band kicks in and it gets unreal from there. That is Dickey playing with just the drums after Duaneís solo.
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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 10:05 AM
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After Duane's capella solo, isn't that Dickey wailing for the next 5 to ten minutes with the drums in the background,


Correct, those two solos are some of the finest recorded moments in rock history....

 

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 10:15 AM
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After Duane's capella solo, isn't that Dickey wailing for the next 5 to ten minutes with the drums in the background,


Correct, those two solos are some of the finest recorded moments in rock history....


No Doubt about that............It's amazing.......bands usually don't get moments like that recorded in high quality muti-track recordings.......We are blessed to have that and many others.......The most amazing thing is to think about how old they were when they did it.....Blows my mind

 

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 10:15 AM
..Yeah, I was just going to post the same thing David and Goldtop...and yes its amazing they were just kids when they played like that!...what brilliance.

That Dickey segment on YDLM when he is just wailing away with the drums is some of Dickey's finest playing by far. I'm amazed at how agressive he played in th early days before he became a more melodic player. I think the YDLM from 3/20/71 is REAL killer if I remember correctly and Dickey was playing is another stratosphere that night. People can talk about great blues players all day long but I'll put the 1971 version of The ABB up against anybody - Its like the blues on steroids!



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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 12:00 PM
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On the Fillmore Concerts cd, YDLM starts off with the crowd clapping and Duane and Dickey noodling, then the whole band just jumps on a romp that doesn't end until 20 or so minutes later!! Freakin amazing. My question is this, and mind you I have WORN OUT several different fillmore discs... After Duane's capella solo, isn't that Dickey wailing for the next 5 to ten minutes with the drums in the background, kind of like a deep fried southern version of Clapton's Steppin Out with Cream? I know someone on here has the answer.

I believe the start of YDLM is just Duane and Iím not sure Iíd call that noodling. Heís setting up the song with his incredibly funky riffs that just get your whole being shakiní. Then the band kicks in and it gets unreal from there. That is Dickey playing with just the drums after Duaneís solo.
The best band there ever was or will be. I saw them for the last time just after Fillmore was released and I still miss them. Iím thrilled that todayís band is carrying on the musical style created by the original Allman Brothers Band.




Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean noodling in a negative way AT ALL!! I love how that song begins. What I meant be noodling was more or less "loose playing", kind of like the calm before the storm. I could have sworn I heard two guitars though.... Oh well, now we are splitting hairs. What I love most about that song is the very end, when the brothers finally finish the song.... Just listen to how the crowd erupts!!! Sends chills down my spine.

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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 12:10 PM
Some of you may have seen Tim Brooks and Jon Wimpee (mostly Jon) recreate those 2 solos at GABBA or elsewhere with Breau Jam. Jon is with the Skydogs now, makes for another nice recreation. The drummers aren't as good as Tim's though, and those drum riffs were a big aspect of Dickey's jam.
 
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  posted on 7/19/2005 at 03:42 PM
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Out of the 12-15 IL's I own from 2003-2004, my favorite version is without a doubt 7-26-03 Pittsburgh. Not only is the performance amazing (particularly DT), but IMO the 2003 IL's had the best sound quality. My favorite IL's as far as performance and sound are probably those first couple from 2003 - Indy and Pittsburgh.

Agreed on the IL comment. My neighbor is a freak audiophile with many K's invested in equipment - old school tube stuff. He says the same thing. The 2003 IL are some of the warmest live recordings he has ever heard.

 

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8-26-71 is my favorite version of this song. Duane talks about King Curtis's death, and then they play a simply awesome YDLM>Soul Serenade>YDLM.

I have a dTb in my iPOD that has a YDLM>SS>YDLM. Not sure from where or when, it just says Track 4. Smokin. I think the Count was in on it as well.

 

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Out of the 12-15 IL's I own from 2003-2004, my favorite version is without a doubt 7-26-03 Pittsburgh. Not only is the performance amazing (particularly DT), but IMO the 2003 IL's had the best sound quality. My favorite IL's as far as performance and sound are probably those first couple from 2003 - Indy and Pittsburgh.

Agreed on the IL comment. My neighbor is a freak audiophile with many K's invested in equipment - old school tube stuff. He says the same thing. The 2003 IL are some of the warmest live recordings he has ever heard.
the one I got at the 7-11-05 Cleveland show came out WAY better then I expected... one of the best I've heard... and I've got 2 from 2003 and 5 from 2004...

 

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