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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 03:06 PM
I was just pondering why Mike Lawler is not listed on the "Historical Members" section. How could his overwhelming synthisizer playing be overlooked

 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 04:18 PM
Hey played a mean Key-tar (sp) and one of the main reason I walked out on the ABB for fourteen years in 1980 after Jack Bruce and Friends blew the roof off of the Nassau Coliseum and the Brothers embarrassed themselves.
 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 06:04 PM
No kidding.

I've often wondered if that "sound" was pushed on them by Arista.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 06:35 PM
Broke my heart! I was fourteen at the time and then went to Dead concerts more frequently. I didn't get back to see the Brothers until 1994 with obvious results.
 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 07:12 PM
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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 07:27 PM
I admire your sense of humor!

 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 07:33 PM
To be fair, you listen to Playin Up a Storm and Gregg wasn't above experimenting with some funky keyboards, either. The key-tar might have been pushed on them by Arista, but the music climate of time just wasn't going to let the Allmans do their thing without bending a little.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 07:49 PM
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The key-tar might have been pushed on them by Arista, but the music climate of time just wasn't going to let the Allmans do their thing without bending a little.


Very true; the southern blues thing just wasn't happening at the dawn of the 1980's. I think Arista tried to remold the Dead and the ABB with very mixed results. Those two records ("Reach For The Sky" & "Brothers Of The Road") are very much the result of not enough creative freedom given to the ABB.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 08:40 PM
Damn Arista

 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 09:20 PM
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Hey played a mean Key-tar (sp) and one of the main reason I walked out on the ABB for fourteen years in 1980 after Jack Bruce and Friends blew the roof off of the Nassau Coliseum and the Brothers embarrassed themselves.


Me too...Oakland CA.....right where Duanes solo in Whipping post would be.....out steps Mike Lawler with his Key-tar......I had had enough of him by that point in the night and then to do the big space liftoff in Whipping Post was more than my young influencial ears could handle....... I had seen them the year before and they blew me away then they came back the next with ML and it was............BAD........

 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 09:46 PM
Probably falls into the" it seemed like a good idea at the time " category. Like the musical equivilent of the mullet haircut, or the flared jeans or other fashion faux pas that all of us , to our great embarrasment, embraced at some point in our lives.
Another point, where is Mike Lawler now ?Does anybody know ? ( I would guess writing advertising jingles.)
I hope he has a sense of humour if he ever reads this site because his time with the ABB is regularly lampooned here.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2005 at 10:33 PM
hmm this came up during a google search...
http://zebro.everperfect.com/allman/players/mlawler.htm

I've never heard any of his music and from what I've heard about it I don't think I want to.

[Edited on 7/17/2005 by The_Newt]

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 07:18 AM
I became a huge ABB fan around 1990; I bought "Seven Turns", "At Fillmore East" and "Live At Ludlow Garage" all on the same day. I became immersed in the music that the band created from 1969 to 1979. Then one day a couple of years later I spotted these two videos at the mall called "Brothers Of The Road" and I thought, "Cool", because I'd never seen much footage of the band in concert. When the video opened with an awesome version of "Jessica" I thought it was great. Next was "You Don't Love Me". It was rocking along for a couple of minutes and then...........the SYNTHISIZER?!?!?!?

I was surprised to say the least.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 08:31 AM
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Probably falls into the" it seemed like a good idea at the time " category. Like the musical equivilent of the mullet haircut, or the flared jeans or other fashion faux pas that all of us , to our great embarrasment, embraced at some point in our lives.
Another point, where is Mike Lawler now ?Does anybody know ? ( I would guess writing advertising jingles.)
I hope he has a sense of humour if he ever reads this site because his time with the ABB is regularly lampooned here.


Very well said. I too hope that Mike's not offended by our caustic remarks, as he's probably a fine keyboardist and would earn our respect in different surroundings.

And speaking of flared jeans, will they be going out of fashion again soon? They looked bad in the '70s, and they look just as bad now. According to the fashion powers-that-be, hip-huggers are officially passť (front page of the NY Daily News last week) and I hope that flares are right behind them.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 08:53 AM
......Mind you, I thought the sight of a key-tar within the confines of the ABB was a bit odd, to say the very least, but I won't slam Mike Lawler for his instrument, for he did his job within the band very well for the time he was there.............
 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 09:03 AM
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......Mind you, I thought the sight of a key-tar within the confines of the ABB was a bit odd, to say the very least, but I won't slam Mike Lawler for his instrument, for he did his job within the band very well for the time he was there.............


No doubt he can play and he's probably not a historical member because he was a side man that filled a slot for whatever synth needs they had. I'm sure Mike is a nice guy and a great player. You don't get the chance to walk on stage with the ABB and not have some chops. It was the wrong fit for the music. Kinda' like a banjo in the middle of a Bach Violin Concerto......

Either way I walked out

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 10:05 AM
As much as they want to tinker around with the lineup, nothin' beats that 'ol twin guitar sound!

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 12:50 PM
[quoteIt was the wrong fit for the music. Kinda' like a banjo in the middle of a Bach Violin Concerto......



I bet Bela would beg to differ.

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 01:40 PM
Once again...........please, please, please: stop bashing Mike Lawler !!
He's the "Duane Allman Of Portable Plastic Sounding Synthisizers" .

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 01:48 PM
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Probably falls into the" it seemed like a good idea at the time " category. Like the musical equivilent of the mullet haircut, or the flared jeans or other fashion faux pas that all of us , to our great embarrasment, embraced at some point in our lives.
Another point, where is Mike Lawler now ?Does anybody know ? ( I would guess writing advertising jingles.)
I hope he has a sense of humour if he ever reads this site because his time with the ABB is regularly lampooned here.
Good point and I have nothing to say about Mike Lawler, but regarding the above post, take the addition of Marc Quinones for example. Totally different from the Brother's drumming style, but it works!!!

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 02:00 PM
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[quoteIt was the wrong fit for the music. Kinda' like a banjo in the middle of a Bach Violin Concerto......



I bet Bela would beg to differ.


Oh!!! Good point..and well taken......Uh how about like putting a synth guitar solo in Whipping Post.....Oh that did happened.....your right....there is no comparable comparison....

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 02:56 PM
if there's an all-around crappier instrument than the key-tar id like to see and hear it... no positive musical contributions have ever been made on a key-tar (that i can think of). and people who play it just look stupid to me. i say lets take all the keytars in the world and make a huge bonfire out of them.
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That is a pretty stupid statment IMO. And also Mike Lawler did enough time with the ABB to have been considered a member. Mike added a lot to the music during Brothers of the Road. His short (thankfully) keytar solo notwithstanding.

The keytar as it is called was one of the most popular instraments of it's time. This is mostly due to Jan Hammer's rise to fame and prominence with Jeff Beck. Chuck Leavel was certainly no stranger to one and used one considerably in Sea Level also there is a picture of him in all his keytar glory onstage with BHLT somewhere. I am pretty sure that Stevie Wonder played one as well. One of the inovations that came with the instrament, the vibrato or pitch wheel is standard issue on most top of the line synths today which can literally in the right hands do it all. Brothers of the Road is a great VHS or DVD and presents some great live moments of the band during a period of very bad music in American History. The keytar moment while bad can't be considered one of the worst in the history of this band. Mike doesn't deserve our wrath. More power to ya Mike. Tweeeeedle lee tweeeeeedle leee tweedle lee tweedle lee!

 

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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 05:15 PM
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if there's an all-around crappier instrument than the key-tar id like to see and hear it... no positive musical contributions have ever been made on a key-tar (that i can think of). and people who play it just look stupid to me. i say lets take all the keytars in the world and make a huge bonfire out of them.

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You'd better have another think, because you're missing out on a lot of contributions. For example, and this may not appeal to everyone, take Eddie Van Halen's performance at Les Paul's 65th birthday party back in 1988. He's accompanied by Tony Levin, Rick Morotta, and some poser with a keytar named Jan Hammer. It's doesn't suck -

flavum.com/Clips/eddievh88.wmv
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  posted on 7/17/2005 at 05:22 PM
Though I dont like him in that video and in that kind of sound, Jan Hammer aint no poser, his stuff with Jeff Beck and the Mahavishnu Orchestra is damn awesome!

 

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Though I dont like him in that video and in that kind of sound, Jan Hammer aint no poser, his stuff with Jeff Beck and the Mahavishnu Orchestra is damn awesome!


It was sarcasm on my part. I should have put a after my post.

 

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