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  posted on 6/29/2005 at 11:40 AM
I have reseeded the vines I failed to advance for reasons previously stated. Once again if you want to believe a few people who have been in this forum for 6 months go right ahead. I have had no problems with many of the members in this forum and some will say I am a great guy. Popular to peoples belief some of us do have jobs and kids and we may forget to send a vine along 30 seconds after we burn it or forget to drop it in the mail. Sh** does happen, we are all not perfect. I have made a great effort to get the discs that I had reseeded to the next in line or back to the originator of the vine. To date all of the discs I had have been returned. Once again if you know of a vine that may be missing please PM me and I will let you know if I did or did not recieve it.


A "VINE KILLER" is one who maliciously or willingly keeps a disc for their own enjoyment instead of spreading the joy of the music to other people."

I have reseeded all vines that I had!



[Edited on 8/11/2005 by No1ToRunWith]

[Edited on 8/11/2005 by No1ToRunWith]

[Edited on 5/17/2007 by No1ToRunWith]

 

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  posted on 6/29/2005 at 03:01 PM
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  posted on 6/29/2005 at 04:38 PM
What I would suggest is that you post a list of the vine shows that you have so we can all help you get them sorted out.

To be honest, I've been on so many dead vines now that I would not know which shows to ask about without the name and date to help spark my memory.

[Edited on 6/29/2005 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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  posted on 7/7/2005 at 07:24 PM
i forgive you **** happens- oh well
 

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  posted on 7/12/2005 at 09:32 AM
I agree with L_P_S on this one. It would be best if you could either: spend the time to trace the vines you have and contact those next in line; or post a list of the vines you still have and have people try and figure out if they were signed up for these.
I was able to track down a couple killed vines through my sent mail box, but most people may not be able do that, I just happened to be next in line. Also I assume some have given up on them altogether, and wouldn't think to check on them anymore. The weight of this should be on your shoulders, not those whom you have offended. Hopefully you can remedy this and fix your tarnished reputation.

 

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  posted on 7/20/2005 at 08:07 AM
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  posted on 7/20/2005 at 08:15 AM
These things happen. I gave a show to my girl friend to mail out for me and gound it in the back seat of her car three weeks later. She swore to me that she had sent it. the next in line sent me a PM asking what happened. I was going to burn him another copy just before I found it. I agree with you about the malicous people who are listening to the show and not making an effort to pass it along. They are the true vine killers.
 

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  posted on 7/21/2005 at 02:54 PM
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  posted on 8/10/2005 at 09:00 AM
I feel here is an adequate place to post this.
The ABB 5 shows vine was reseeded to me, but not by No1ToRunWith, it was reseeded by abbmonk.
I have tried several times to get a vine that has stalled/killed when he was before me.
I've received responses that the vines were sent out 'yesterday', or 'in the mail tomorrow'.
This includes after the grand apology and setting things right.
I also noticed an edited post where No1 edited his name from failing to advance a vine to make it look as though he had moved it right along.
Please be wary when trading and vining with No1.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2005 at 09:20 AM
No suprise here. I will never understand why it is difficult to make a copy and send it. If a person is too busy then pass it along and sign up at the bottom. IMO this apology stuff was just a chance to try and pick up more. The excuses over time were lame. Even the old "I found a pile of Vines which I forgot to send" followed by " Not sure which Vines I have" followed by tell me which Vines. After all that I lost faith. I never bought it the first time and I am not going to buy it after it has been all used up.

I believe the problem stems from signing up for too many Vines then forgetting where all these extra discs came from. Jethro Bodine had a whole room full of discs in Uncle Jed's mansion but he kept forgetting.

Easy rule to follow- get the Vine, Copy and then PASS IT ALONG.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2005 at 10:30 AM
I have to agree if there is multiple times that one indivual has broken the vine then he or she is a problem. I have been waiting a long long time for many vines and many different people that are not moving them along. One case an new vine was started and I signed up for it because the old one wasn't moving. I wonder which will come first????
 

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  posted on 8/10/2005 at 08:16 PM


[Edited on 8/11/2005 by No1ToRunWith]

 

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  posted on 8/10/2005 at 08:41 PM
If you sent me these shows, why did I not receive them? Did you send them to the wrong address again? I sent you my address 5 times.
If I do ever receive it, I will gladly offer it up as a freebee. BUT you did not reseed the vine. abbmonk did. You couldn't have reseeded it, the problem was fixed before you "located it".
I told you about other vines stalled and killed at your foot, of which one of them you said you had (after multiple pms) and "it would go out tomorrow". Message was dated July 14th. I know the parcel service does not take 4 weeks to deliver. The ability to burn-and-turn well some times does not a good trader make.
The point is not whether or not you've been good over the last month. It is that you have ruined a lot of vines, and are lying about making good on them.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2005 at 08:54 PM
I am here to enjoy the music man and if I made a mistake that personally affected you sorry. I did reseed all that I had. What you need to understand is that by throwing the label "Vine Killer" people will believe that with out even understanding what happen. Again I am here to share music. Since the multiple vines that I signed up for and forgot to reseed I have stayed away from vines and b/p's. I am trying to get on everyones good side and show that I can still do vines. From the new ones I signed up for this month I have turned them over the next day. Again sorry if I personally offended you.

[Edited on 8/11/2005 by No1ToRunWith]

 

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  posted on 8/10/2005 at 11:10 PM
if you cant find who gets it next, i suggest searching for the thread using the "Search" functionality listed at the top of this page. for example, i'm getting a U2 show from someone, i have no idea who it goes to next but when i get it i will come here and track it down. it ain't rocket science, its common courtesy.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2005 at 11:59 PM
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if you cant find who gets it next, i suggest searching for the thread using the "Search" functionality listed at the top of this page. for example, i'm getting a U2 show from someone, i have no idea who it goes to next but when i get it i will come here and track it down. it ain't rocket science, its common courtesy.


Linnie - You have just made finding those damn Vine topics so much easier. Biggest damn hug I could give!

 

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  posted on 8/11/2005 at 07:19 AM
If there was a vine I tried to reseed and it failed I sent the discs back to the originator of the vine

 

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  posted on 8/11/2005 at 09:46 AM
No1ToRunWith -
I am not out to get you. I just wanted to set the record straight on a few things. You are the one singling me out. Initially your post said you reseeded shows to me, and you didn't. Now you have deleted your initial post and a follow-up saying that you seeded these to me. In its wake you have let some garbage about trusting someone who has been here for only 6 months. What will the next edit bring? I understand you're here for the music. We are all here because of the music, one way or another. I am not trying to do anything malicious here. There is no reason for me to fabricate any of this. I just think things need to be told how they really are.
In addition to the vine you claimed to have reseeded to me, you said you were sending shows to me from a different vine, and you didn't. I received a pm for a show from someone who was prior to me on a vine list. It turns out said person had an extra. I was reading through the thread to see if I could help figure it out. In process I saw that you killed --errr, stalled, dropped the ball?-- that vine too. It was taken care of through a reseed, and later in the thread you edited your name from failing to advance to advancing on time. I am not tracing through all of the vines that you have been in to see what you have righted, and what you haven't, that was chance. If you want to do right what you have wronged, then do it. But don't make up stories about what have done.

 

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  posted on 8/11/2005 at 10:18 AM
I have admitted what I did was wrong. If you see some posts above I did try to resolve my killing. I apologized over and over. I want to keep sharing in this great music and not be banned from it. I was not pointing the finger at you, but I know what I did and am sticking by it. yes I was wrong. If you need something please let me know. I just want to end this back and forth bs and keep sharing great music. Again if there is something you need from me just let me know.

 

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  posted on 8/11/2005 at 12:21 PM
A good way would be to stop editing and changing the story. Many people have noticed this. We all just want straight honesty and no BS. You say that you want the same. Hey you screwed up and all should be forgiven. But then you screw up more and change the story which we all see.

Look we are the ones who want no BS. You have often said things were sent when they obviously were not. You then will say you are going to send when you have already said it was gone. Those stories are the BS part. I would prefer someone to just say "You know what, I am never going to send this out". Maybe that is not your intention but look at it from our viewpoint. Would you believe you? Plus you say you are sorry but then you say that you know what you did and are sticking by it. Do you realize that you are saying that you stand by screwing people over? It may not be what you meant but that is what you have just said.

I have quite a few PMs from people saying to skip you on any list. Not nice but it is a fact. Many people may not write it here but they feel that way. I prefer a great community with no BS. You had no problems here until your breakdown of the Vines. To make it right just send them along. To state that you are too busy to get these out in a reasonable time so we should just accept it is **** . I have two jobs, two kids, coach soccer and volunteer with seniors. That doesn't make me Superman but it sure takes up time. If I can get this done than anyone can. How long does it take you to make a copy and stick it in an envelope? Come on, let's be real. The only excuse for taking more than two days is that you didn't feel like it. If it means that we have no life because we can get these out in a reasonable amount of time then that means that 99% of the people here have no life.

The hole you dig gets bigger. Just drop this thread and the edits and move on. I believe you are sincere to a degree but I also think you don't give a **** and are making excuses for yourself. People aren't buying.

 

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  posted on 8/12/2005 at 01:55 PM
Perhaps vining isn't your thing, maybe you could consider switching over to the "Trades" forum and sending people your B&P's, that way you won't let everyone down when you forget to pass along a vine....just a thought.

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  posted on 5/16/2007 at 08:34 PM
A vine in my mailbox is first and foremost NOT my property.

I have been entrusted with a great thing and I treat it accordingly. I have a log where I write down the date I rcvd it, and send it. I open the package with care and using a knife carefully remove any excess tape/label. I inspect the disc, clean it if needed and burn the same day. I toss the envelope if it is too beat up and use a new one. I am always available through a PM to reseed, correct, or redirect a vine. I watch the progress of the vine and look for any problems. I take my part in the vine very seriously.

It is after all my name out there on the line.... That's all you really have in life...a good name. A person should try and protect it and value it. It will be on a headstone someday. I know we use different names on this site but each time this vining or trading thing works, my faith in my fellow man is restored...doesn't matter how many jerks cut me off in traffic that day. A vine that is allowed to die is no different than a friendship that is allowed to wither for no good reason.

O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!
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[Edited on 5/17/2007 by TanDan]

 

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  posted on 5/16/2007 at 09:13 PM
Actions speak louder than words!!!

 

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  posted on 5/16/2007 at 09:37 PM
to each his own i guess.

when i get a vine, i like to take it out of the bubblewrap, go grab a couple of beers, and watch some sports with it.

of course, there was that nora jones vine. took that one out for a special dinner, dancing, and, well.. i won't go on.

oh damn, i really miss that nora jones vine.

 

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  posted on 5/16/2007 at 09:55 PM
Mmmmmm Nora Jones.

 

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