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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:04 PM
Hey all,

I was curious as to how some of you feel regarding the lack of support at the Peacemakers shows I've been to in NYC. Is it the religious content of the songs? Not classic rock enough? What gives?

Anyway Oteil rocks, and I hope more folks go out to catch the Peacemakers do thier thing....these guys are really really good.

 
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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:07 PM
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Hey all,

I was curious as to how some of you feel regarding the lack of support at the Peacemakers shows I've been to in NYC. Is it the religious content of the songs? Not classic rock enough? What gives?

Anyway Oteil rocks, and I hope more folks go out to catch the Peacemakers do thier thing....these guys are really really good.


I enjoy his tunes a lot. It's just always seemed that out of the dTb and Mule, he is the least talked about.... why?

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:13 PM
Hey SAMMYSPOP,

the sparse crowds at Peacemakers shows are probably due in part to their lack of commercial appeal. Their music isn't exactly radio friendly - the songs are long and they have (Gasp!) jazz overtones!

I've been hollering for over two years that the ABB should allow Oteil and the Peacemakers to open a few shows. I honestly believe that with that type of exposure, more people might turn out for their gigs.

Oteil and the Peacemakers are my favorite ABB "sub-group". Both the Mule and the DTB have opened shows for the Brothers. I think the Peacemakers deserve to be thrown a bone by the ABB.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:29 PM
I drove three hours from Birmingham Alabama to catch Oteil in Auburn. The band played a joint called Bodegas, which is a college hangout. If your looking for hot southern girls fellas........but I digress. I'm watching Oteil and the band freeze their asses off in front of a crowd of perhaps 50 or so and saying to myself that it's unbelievable that a guy as talented as Oteil can't get more support. When you consider how many people he has plyed in front of with ABB, ARU etc etc etc.....it really makes you scratch your head.


 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:41 PM
I really like their music, though I can't get into Paul's voice... that would be the only thing that would hold me back - and I would still love to check out a show if they would ever come to Ohio...

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:44 PM
Oteil IS opening for the ABB in Milwaukee at Summerfest...and so is the DTB and the Mule....all for $35 for the best seats

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:44 PM
I think Paul Henson has an amazing voice.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:48 PM
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I've been hollering for over two years that the ABB should allow Oteil and the Peacemakers to open a few shows. I honestly believe that with that type of exposure, more people might turn out for their gigs.


I agree Rusty. I wonder if he's ever approached Gregg, Butch, Warren, whomever about opening for them. Or perhaps that would be in poor taste. I dunno, but it would be cool if he were given the opportunity.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:49 PM
I saw the Peacemakers this past Tuesday at Blues Alley in Washington DC. It was a great show and the band was really friendly. Unfortunately I did not get a chance to meet Oteil. Maybe next time..

I discovered he was playing there through pollstar.com. The gig wasn't listed on his website. That may be why the venue wasn't packed. Then again, Blues Alley isn't very big to start with. I think the other reason the crowds are smaller is that Oteil and the Peacemakers are pretty much a jazz band from what I could tell. Govt Mule, DTB, GA and Friends all have more of a rock and roll flavor to their music. This may account for the smaller crowds.

I posted on Oteil's web site that he was coming to DC and no one responded but I don't know what to make of that. At any rate, I agree that Oteil should be allowed to sing more with the Brothers. Personally, I would love to see them do some Sly and the Family Stone some time. I just heard a cd of Panic doing "Stepping into Darkness". Fantastic.


Go see Oteil!

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:52 PM
Lotta bands out there that do not get the respect they deserve.
 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:58 PM
True Kaziup but Oteil is a Brother. You would think that more ABB fans would turn out.
 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 12:59 PM
Well, there's a lot of reasons why these things happen, although it certainly has nothing to do with the quality of the music or the musicianship. First, The Peacemakers don't seem to get same amount of exposure, simply because they are a much newer band. The Mule has been around since '94 & Derek Trucks Band almost as long and both (or have been) signed to major labels. This was not the case when either band started though. When the Mule first started I missed them 2 or 3 times, just because I didn't know they were coming. I wasn't really checking and without doing that, I never heard about it. Now, I can't go anywhere without hearing about where the Mule is. So it just naturally takes time for bands to grow. Secondly, I hardly doubt that anyone in the ABB would mind if Oteil opens for them. Those kinds of things are usually handled through management. Although if Oteil is out on the road with the ABB it may not be too economically feesable for the rest of the guys to show up to open for a few shows. I don't know if that's true, but my point is there are a lot of considerations to think about. I hear a lot of great things about them through people on this site, and I myself love them. So it's just a matter of time before more people hook onto them. They perhaps will never grow to the height of the Mule or dtb, but hopefully things will grow...
 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 02:02 PM
Well, I can tell you that Otiel's three times a year gig in Cincinnati at the Mad Frog is usually packed. Here was my take on one of their gigs last winter;

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The Mad Frog
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Big Joe Duskin
Southgate House
Newport, Kentucky
November 13, 2004

It is a good night for music along the Ohio River as the blues piano legend Big Joe Duskin is about to play an early gig at the historic Southgate House in Northern Kentucky, and Oteil Burbridge and his band the Peacemakers are lined up to play a late show across the river in Cincinnati. The 84-year old Duskin is throwing a party to celebrate the release of his first album in ten years-Big Joe Jumps Again!-which has since been nominated for Comeback Blues Album of the Year at the WC Handy Awards. On this night Big Joe Duskin is joined by many of his fellow Cincinnati musicians. His rhythm section for the evening consists of Phillip Paul on drums and Ed Conley on bass, two legendary session players that played on the hundreds of hits that came out on King Records in the 1950’s, 60’s, and 70’s, including Freddie King’s “Hideaway.”

One after another, various guest musicians take their turn at playing with Big Joe, including producer/bassist/mandolinist Larry Nager (who co-produced the new CD with musical partner William Lee Ellis) and singer/guitarist Ma Crow, who steps up with “Why Don’t You Do Right” and the Bessie Smith belter “Send Me To The ‘lectric Chair.” Also taking the stage in collaboration are guitarist David Rhodes Brown, singer/songwriter Tracy Walker on percussion, the roots-rocking Stapletons, turntable scratcher Casual-T, singer/songwriter Kim Taylor, conga players Tino Barbosa and Emma Nager and bluegrass boys the Kenton County Regulators. While Duskin has some problems with a contrary electric piano that doesn’t cooperate at times, when he does dig in his chops and voice are as powerful as ever.

Next up is a short drive north to see Oteil and the Peacemakers. Oteil holds down the bass chair for the Allman Brothers Band, but when he gets this solo band of his fired up the music takes on a funkier and jazzier groove. Oteil and his band, featuring Matt Slocum on keyboards, Paul Henson on vocals, Chris Fryar on drums, and Mark Kimbrell on guitar, are playing enthusiastically despite experiencing the travails of being on the road. They have had a long day, with the tour vehicle breaking down on the way to the gig and the band itself fixing the gas line leak. But all is good as the crowd is large and animated.

It doesn’t take much time before the Peacemakers are warmed up. Oteil is popping his bass hard with a strong groove that is always front and center. The instrumental “Tubby” is a romp, and the song “Silverback” is pure Tower of Power-inspired funk. Fryar proves himself to be a precise and intense timekeeper, and Henson has a wonderful funky voice that reminds one of the best days of Brain Auger and the Oblivion Express. But on this night something has seemingly taken hold of Mark Kimbrell, as his guitar playing is flat on fire. The rest of the band looks back and smiles on many occasions as they realize that this is his night. I talk with Kimbrell after the show ends and he says that he had come off a day where he was questioning his own abilities. “I doubted myself all day, thinking my playing wasn’t good enough, that I shouldn’t be here. But I said a prayer and decided to not worry about it and give it up to God and let it flow.” And flow it did, as it became one of most magical and musical nights I’ve witnessed in a long time.
By Derek Halsey

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 02:14 PM
I would go see him if he ever played out here! NYC has alot going on, maybe that has something to do with it.

Pauls voice is real good if ya ask me, he sounds real good on ARU's The Calling

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 02:22 PM
Buy the albums off of Hittin the note!! You won't be sorry. They are the closest sounding band to the ABB of the three family bands or side bands. Which ever phrasing you choose to use. I saw them open for DTB in Athens. They were great. Even Derek came in to watch them. Great night of music.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 02:28 PM
I'll keep it simple, if all you've seen of Otiel is with the Allman Bros, then you have only seen a portion of what he can do on bass, as his playing when with the Peacemakers far surpasses that of his main gig with the ABB in my opinion.

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 02:34 PM
I was over at lkrdg's house in Madison one night shooting the sh!t with Kent, a bass player friend of his, and Oteil's name came up-Kent said "That man is so good he must come from another planet. Not only as a bass player but as a musician." Kinda sums it up.

And since I've been lucky enough to meet him, I'd say as a human being too. They don't come any finer. The ABB is blessed to have Oteil.

 

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  posted on 6/24/2005 at 06:24 PM
they "appear" to have a lack of support, because they dont have a very good publicity guy...I never find out that he's playing near me until either the day before, or the day of the show.

The jazzy nature of the shows being the reason is untrue....Derek is jazzy, and he draws great crowds where he goes...no, theyre not at the drawing level of the Mule...but then again, I like that. Same with Oteil...if I could actualy find out about a gig, I'd totally go see them at the small places they play...they play this one place in Connecticut called Black Eyed Sally's, its a blues bar/bbq joint, and its freakin cool.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2005 at 05:23 AM
I saw my 1st Oteil & The PM's show Fri June 3rd at Nasville's 3rd & Lindsley. There was a pretty good turnout that night. I did notice that much of the crowd seemed to be there for FutureMan who opened the show. He and a piano/keyboard player played about an hour's worth of techno-heavy stuff and at one point FM intro'd a young white bro from the audience complete with hat properly cocked to the side, who got up and Free-styled a ?song? ? Al-Righty Then. A handful of those fans got up & left after FutureMan finished. I was SO tempted to go to the parking lot and announce hey folks, the REAL show's fixin' to start. ...But, I was a good boy that night. Maybe I need to be more open-minded to record scratcin', & what not.

Then Oteil & The Peacemakers took to the stage for a show that I THOROUGHLY enjoyed. I had purchased their The Family Secret cd a couple of weeks before to get familiar with some of their songs, and even though I'd been diggin' the cd, it did little to prepare me for this rich musical soup that would be nourishing my soul for the next two hours. The band moved effotlessly from rock, to jazz, to gospel, to funk, & points between. I loved Paul's vocals and think it really compliments the music. Oteil sang a couple of tunes and did some crazy-good scat/bass solos. I think it was after about the 3rd or 4th tune he slipped his sandals off & I got a big ole smile watchin' him rock from side to side, head swingin', face radiating some sort of inner peace, thunderous notes flowing powerfully, yet beautifully from his modulus bass. This was probably the best bass playing at 3rd & L since Elizabeth Pearson left the stage here a few weeks ago.

I didn't keep a set list since I wasn't real familiar with the band , but I can tell you they played most of The Family Secret , some tunes were, I guess, off of their 1st album, and covers which included a really funked up Green-Eyed Lady , and they closed out the night with a sorta jazzy tinged, but still rockin' All Along The Watchtower . I'll definitely be returning to see this band next time they are in my neck of the woods.

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  posted on 6/25/2005 at 07:05 AM
sometimes its just timing...i couldn't make the gig in DC because this time of year, closing school, the last two weeks are gonzo. just couldn't go out to play...

 

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  posted on 6/25/2005 at 07:54 AM
...and sometimes it's just money--or lack of it... I hated having to miss last night's show in VA Beach.

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  posted on 6/25/2005 at 07:57 AM
p.s. I LOVE this band! They're all such nice guys--as well as monster players! I will find the money for their next CD when it comes out--which will hopefully be some time this summer!

 

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  posted on 6/25/2005 at 08:50 AM
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the sparse crowds at Peacemakers shows are probably due in part to their lack of commercial appeal. Their music isn't exactly radio friendly - the songs are long and they have (Gasp!) jazz overtones!

That's probably even more true of the dTb, but they've received more attention.

 

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  posted on 6/25/2005 at 09:56 AM
I drove from Boston to NYC to catch Derek on Wednesday and Oteil on Thursday. Both were incredible shows but the Derek show was packed and the Oteil show was sparsely attended. I was also wondering why this was and then I realized the only reason i know about the Oteil gig was because someone was kind enough to post info about it on this board. There was no mention of it on his website, so I agree Oteil could use some enhanced PR.
 

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  posted on 6/25/2005 at 10:40 AM
I like Oteil's music, although I haven't the opportunty to see him and the Peacemakers play. In any case, sometimes an artist does well in one region and not in another, also if someone is playing a mid-week gig, it's very like attendance will be down than if they were playing a weekend gig. In any case, hope Oteil and the Peacemakers all the sucess they can handle. One more thing, perhaps dTb and Oteil and the Peacemakers should do a tour together during the "off" season. Perhaps play a bunch of college gigs, this would certainly increase exposure to both bands.
 
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