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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 06:31 PM
I've got a little question here....If you were trying to introduce the ABB to someone who has never heard them before, what songs (and versions) would you play them?

 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 06:46 PM
You start with LAFE and end with HTN. Then you let them find everything in between.

 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 07:02 PM
Good Question.
I would probably start out with what I felt were good representations of all the different types of influences or styles of music that they have infused tp become their sound.
I could through each one of their studio recordings and list them here but that would take for ever. The songs off of the top of my head that I could make a mix CD would be Dreams, Whipping post,Don't want you know more/Aint' my Cross to bear, Black Hearted Woman, Revival, Liz Reed, Come and Go Blues, Wasted Words, Pony Boy, Blue Sky, Aint Wastin time no More, Les Bres in A minor,Little Martha,Dont keep me wondering, Cant take it with you, Can't lose what you never had,Seven Turns, Gamblers Roll, End of the Line, Nobody Knows, Bad Rain, Come on in My Kitchen, Back Where it all Begins, Nobody Left to run With,Salin Cross the Devils Sea, Desdemona, Maydell, Old Before my Time. I left out the more popular ones thinking they would already know them.
Or you could buy them

Live at the Fillmore
Instant Live the Fox Box
The latest greatest hits dbl cd
Mycology- for the later material
Acoustic Benefit Cd for the IRSA
Or just give them everything!!!!

The songs and versions of this would be an endless list. If I posted it tomorrow it would be different!!!

[Edited on 6/22/2005 by jszfunk]

 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 07:07 PM
If you have the cd decade 69-79 I would start with it. All the radio hits plus a few jam band songs. It has something for everyone. I think it"s a great intoduction to the band.
 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 07:24 PM
I completely agree with Pam. Beginners aren't going to have much of an attention span, so you throw LAFE on, then give them HTN, and your work is done. Maybe give them Beginnings too, but that's it. Let them find everything else.
 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 07:43 PM
You have to start with ABB 1st, just to show 'em how to launch a career.

Don't Want You No More/Not My Cross To Bear; what an explosive announcement!

Peace.

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 07:43 PM
I would start at square one and work forward and intersperse some of what was going on in the band at that time. I do believe you can take a beginner too quickly...so go slow.

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 08:27 PM
Personally, I'd start with LAFE, then Beginnings, for background on LAFE, then EAP, and follow the discography from there to present day.

LAFE launched the band to stardom, and those who really dug that album had to go back to Beginnings to get where they tooled their live show from. Then EAP showed that transitional period, where they had to endure great adversity when Duane died, and take it to the next level, then repeat the process after Berry O. died. It just shows the listeners that the band had the ability to rise above the shadows of the prodigious members who died. You have to suffer through the bad periods, after the release of Enlightened Rogues and the collapse of Capricorn, to get to the resurrection period of Seven Turns and afterward. The listener will ultimately land at Hittin' The Note, which is the band's modern day statement that, "We ain't through yet! Watch THIS!!!!"

 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 09:43 PM
I'd play all of Eat A Peach - just tells what the band is all about

 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 10:10 PM
Well! Being a true "Newbie" to the ABB myself, all of you have me truly perplexed by the past few posts. The shortened initials have absolutely no meaning to me. Are they album titles?

I play guitar and have been playing "Ramblin' Man" for over 20 years, so I think I would start there. Bring up many of the biggest and most familliar hits like, "Tied to the Whipping Post" or "Midnight Rider". You want to start a newbie out with songs that they are already familliar with. Then when you have their interest, lead them into deeper waters.

Like I said, "I am an (absolute) newbie to the ABB." I am a huge fan of the Grateful Dead, (Jerry's identical twin! LOL!) and it is only by assosiation that I am becoming familliar and interested in the ABB. I saw them once. And I have jokingly nicknamed them "Grateful Dead Lite!" LOL!

If the same question were to come up about introducing someone to the Grateful Dead. I wouldn't start by introducing people to the lesser known (but better IMHO) songs. I would start by introducing them to songs like Casey Jones, Trukin', Touch of Grey, etc.

I wouldn't want to try to get a newbie to listen to "Weather Report Suite", or "Blues for Allah", and expext to keep their interest for very long.

(Just one newbie's 2 cents.)

 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 10:16 PM
LAFE is Live At Fillmore East, I think that is the best place to start, and you wont be saying lite anymore.
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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 10:25 PM
I would start from the very first Allman Brothers album,
give'm a taste of 1969 and where it all did begin, then the Filmore filet!

 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 10:33 PM
Not even a nod to "Brothers and Sisters?"

And the term "Lite" cannot be applied to any band that contains Warren Haynes.

 

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  posted on 6/21/2005 at 10:54 PM
I would have them buy "Stand Back" which is the best ABB anthology ever made and covers at least one track from each of their albums with a generous sampling of the period from the beginning through Brothers and Sisters. The album begins, as any study of the ABB should, with the very first trakcs they recorded "Don't Want You Know More/Not my Cross to Bear" and contains numerous tracks from each of the first four studio albums including 6 from Eat a Peach. I would also suggest "At the Filmore East-Deluxe" which actually contains the live material left off the album and put on "Eat a Peach." After this anyone who is not hooked doesn't love good rock and roll.

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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 12:14 AM
Start with the first album and work your way through. It would seem the proper order to me plus it is almost following the history of the band that way.
 

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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 01:43 AM
Why not start with Eat a Peach or the double album that has the first album and Idlewild south on it?

 

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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 03:36 AM
Newt , the double album sounds like a good one!

 

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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 03:47 AM
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And the term "Lite" cannot be applied to any band that contains Warren Haynes.


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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 06:32 AM
Another Other One: I too discovered ABB through the GDead. They were the perfect segue. Up till I discovered the Dead, I was into Motown, UK pop and early reggae. My first GDead I was introduced to was Live Dead and it did take some chewing down but, with enough practice, I came to be addicted to them. My first ABB album was Eat a Peach which again took a bit of listening to get into, after that the live@the fillmore took hold. I guess GD&ABB were like salt and pepper, can't have one without the other.

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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 07:06 AM
If I was going to start with one album, it would have to be Eat a Peach. I think that's the best, and it contains relatively short studio tracks, M.J. and Les Bres, and blues, country/rock, something funky in Standback, and the perfect album ending in Little Martha.

 

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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 08:33 AM
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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 08:44 AM
After Some deep meditating on this most deserving subject ..........I would use their Latest Live album One Way Out as it contains plenty of the old material , new stuff from Hittin' the Note and a couple of songs not found on other albums. You get the feel for the current band and that would probably get someone's interest to check out the older stuff such as Live at the Fillmore , Beginings & Eat a Peach.

[Edited on 6/22/2005 by KenSkiItAll]

 

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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 12:24 PM
And the term "Lite" cannot be applied to any band that contains Warren Haynes.

FWIW Warren was with them when I saw them in Toronto 07/09/03. I also saw him with The Dead at Alpine Valley and Deer Creek last sunner.

At my 1st ABB show, I was a bit familliar with their music. Whereas my 1st Grateful Dead show was in Hamilton 03/22/90. I had very little knowledge of their music or who the band members were. People were laughing at me when I asked them who the "Old guy with the white beard" was? They would laugh and say something like, "You're at a Grateful Dead concert, and you don't know who Jerry garcia is?" I think a lot of people thought that was quite funny!

By the end of that night I was addicted to them. And I have since learned well over 100 of their songs. If any of you were at that particular show, (03/22/90 in Hamilton) you know that particular show was one of their better ones. I think I had a very special treat for my own 1st show.

What enthralled me was the audience participation aspect of their show. The energy that people were dancing with was beyond belief (IMHO) When I saw the ABB in Toronto, the show was packed, and I noticed that virtually no-one was dancing. Maybe 1 out of 10 people. The rest seemed content to just stand there and absorb the music. This was all fine and dandy. But the seemingly laid back scene lacked the intensity that I was expecting to see.

If any of you guys are going to be going to the Toronto or London shows. I think it would be nice if some of us could meet up somewhere for a preshow meet and greet type of thing. (I think I would really enjoy that!)

Otherwise. Please keep a look out for a guy that looks a lot like Jerry Garcia, playing a guitar somewhere in the lot. (How do I insert a pic in my message? I've seen a few people do that.) I'll probably be playing mainly a lot of Grateful Dead songs. And other related stuff. Mostly because I know how to play them. Maybe I can learn a few more ABB songs between now and then?

Hey CanadianMule! Which part of our wonderful country do you live in? I'm about 3 hours West of Toronto.
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Please don't get me wrong! I would never try to put down the ABB. When I refer to them as Grateful Dead Lite. It is actually the best compliment that I can come up with.

When I saw them. They were the 2nd best live act that I had ever attended. And the list of bands I have seen is quite extensive. Including 3 visits with the Rolling Stones, a couple of shows with David Bowie, and Led Zeppelin with Rick Derringer and Judas Priest. What I saw of the ABB was a better performance than any of the bands that I just mentioned. But it did not compare to what I had witnessed with the Grateful Dead. Especially when Captain Trips was with them in the flesh.

I'm gonna try to insert a pic of myself with Tom Constanten. (Original keyboard player with the Grateful Dead. Along with Pigpen at the time.) Let's see if y'all can figure out which one is me? LOL!

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Damn! It didn't work, How the hell do you insert pictures?

 

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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 12:26 PM

 

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  posted on 6/22/2005 at 12:39 PM
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and Led Zeppelin with Rick Derringer and Judas Priest.


Wow! I bet show was quite a circus!

 

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