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  posted on 4/11/2005 at 09:38 PM
I bought bootleg CD of last recorded show of Duane era last year.
I know it's shame to buy, but when I found it at the shop, I couldn't stop to buy because I wanted to listen it ASAP.
Sounds is clear but very enhanced of high frequency by equalizing, so I've been tired when all the tunes were over.
So I am undergoing re-mastering the source and it is being much more comfortable to listen.
Process is not end at all, but I noticed some points.

1. In Liz Reed, Dickeys solo is too short and it seems like edited.
2. In Stormy Monday, during Duanes solo have breaks and end, Dickeys solo started.
3. Also "You don't love me" seems to be shorten and edited.
4. When "Revival" is end, "Trouble No More" started but soonly break, TNM started again as next tune.
( I think this is a simple and stupid mistake of bootlegger when he make this master disk)

I think many ones have original source of this last recorded show by trading, so I'd like to know that is it same as above.
Also, is it better to get new one by trading/B&P?

Songs order and its length are as follows.
1. Statesboro Blues (4:12)
2. Don't Keep Me Wonderin' (3:35)
3. Done Somebody Wrong (3:35)
4. One Way out (4:57)
5. Liz Reed (10:09)
6. Hot' Lanta (6:12)
7. Stormy Monday (7:43)
8. You Don't Love Me (12:17)
9. Revival (5:17)
10. Trouble No More (3:54)

Thanks and waitng for your opinion.

 
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  posted on 4/12/2005 at 12:10 PM
*1. In Liz Reed, Dickeys solo is too short and it seems like edited.
2. In Stormy Monday, during Duanes solo have breaks and end, Dickeys solo started.
3. Also "You don't love me" seems to be shorten and edited.
4. When "Revival" is end, "Trouble No More" started but soonly break, TNM started again as next tune.
( I think this is a simple and stupid mistake of bootlegger when he make this master disk)*

There are some tape flaws here & there from this show, but I don't think Dickey's Liz Reed solo is edited. I remember thinking that the first time I heard it as well.

Trouble No More was played later in the sets after Duane's death.... I always wondered if they began to do this near the later stages of 71'. Another minor change I noticed was Duane taking the second solo in Statesboro Blues.

I don't think this was one of their better performaces 71', but I guess we have to take what we can get.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 09:15 AM
finsky,

Thanks for your opinion.

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There are some tape flaws here & there from this show, but I don't think Dickey's Liz Reed solo is edited. I remember thinking that the first time I heard it as well.



Hmmm, I see.
In my owned bootleg, Dickeys solo of Liz Reed is only 1 minutes or so. Also, at the end of his solo, there are unnatural part existed, I think. However, I can't say anymore about it.

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Trouble No More was played later in the sets after Duane's death.... I always wondered if they began to do this near the later stages of 71'.



I feel sorry if I mis-read about above point by my poor English.
Is it say that "Trouble No More" wasn't play on that day??

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I don't think this was one of their better performaces 71', but I guess we have to take what we can get.



I agreed it !!!!

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 02:57 PM
*Hmmm, I see.
In my owned bootleg, Dickeys solo of Liz Reed is only 1 minutes or so. Also, at the end of his solo, there are unnatural part existed, I think. However, I can't say anymore about it.*

When I first listened to that particular part, the first thing I thought of is that he had some minor equipment problem. Don't take my word for it though.

Personally, I think Trouble No More WAS played for this recording. They did this(playing TNM later in the sets) in 1972 after Duane's death, so I guess anything is possible.

Too bad Dreams was mostly out of their set later in 71'.

 

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  posted on 4/13/2005 at 08:38 PM
Speaking of Dreams, does someone know the date of the last recorded live Dreams with Duane? The 9/19/71 version is amazing.
 

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  posted on 4/15/2005 at 09:01 PM
This is the version Captskipper remastered. It's the cleanest version I've heard

1. Statesboro Blues (4:09)
2. Don't Keep Me Wonderin' (4:03)
3. Done Somebody Wrong (3:33)
4. One Way out (5:09)
5. Liz Reed (10:52)
6. Hot' Lanta (6:14)
7. Stormy Monday (9:20)
8. You Don't Love Me (12:16)
9. Revival (5:12)
10. Trouble No More (3:49)

 

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  posted on 4/16/2005 at 06:24 PM
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This is the version Captskipper remastered. It's the cleanest version I've heard

1. Statesboro Blues (4:09)
2. Don't Keep Me Wonderin' (4:03)
3. Done Somebody Wrong (3:33)
4. One Way out (5:09)
5. Liz Reed (10:52)
6. Hot' Lanta (6:14)
7. Stormy Monday (9:20)
8. You Don't Love Me (12:16)
9. Revival (5:12)
10. Trouble No More (3:49)


Thank you for the best reference, Clay.
Most shocking point is the length of Stormy Monday.
My owned bootleg is much shorter and Duanes Solo is incomplete!
It seems my re-mastering work is wasting times......

 

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  posted on 4/17/2005 at 10:36 PM
quote:
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This is the version Captskipper remastered. It's the cleanest version I've heard

1. Statesboro Blues (4:09)
2. Don't Keep Me Wonderin' (4:03)
3. Done Somebody Wrong (3:33)
4. One Way out (5:09)
5. Liz Reed (10:52)
6. Hot' Lanta (6:14)
7. Stormy Monday (9:20)
8. You Don't Love Me (12:16)
9. Revival (5:12)
10. Trouble No More (3:49)


Thank you for the best reference, Clay.
Most shocking point is the length of Stormy Monday.
My owned bootleg is much shorter and Duanes Solo is incomplete!
It seems my re-mastering work is wasting times......

If you would like a copy let me know?

Also, I saw the most amazing Japanese slide guitarist at Johnny Sandlin's birthday party this weekend but cannot remember his name? Maybe I can email you a picture of him on stage?

 

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  posted on 4/17/2005 at 11:23 PM
Masa,

Did you get this thing in Shinjuku? Japan is REALLY behind with groups like the ABB & the Mule. They sure do know their Beatles, Zeppelin, Clapton, & the like though...

Due to the privilidges of trading/burning cdrs, buying boots is simply not worth it for our well earned money...unless it's something really ridiculous. Nothing kills these vampires more than spreading the music.

Moreso with the Allmans b/c we have the likes of Skipper & Clay putting in the effort with these shows.

 

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  posted on 4/18/2005 at 10:18 AM
Clay,

Thank you so much for your offer.
I'd love to hear remastered version by Capt.Skipper.
I have sent you a PM.

Also for japanese slide guitarist, please email me of his pics.
As I wrote in PM, I should search for him.
I think his name is Mr. Yoshihiro Matuura, isn't it?

finsky,

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Did you get this thing in Shinjuku? Japan is REALLY behind with groups like the ABB & the Mule. They sure do know their Beatles, Zeppelin, Clapton, & the like though...

Due to the privilidges of trading/burning cdrs, buying boots is simply not worth it for our well earned money...unless it's something really ridiculous. Nothing kills these vampires more than spreading the music.

Moreso with the Allmans b/c we have the likes of Skipper & Clay putting in the effort with these shows.


Yes, I bought it at Nishi-Shinjuku last year.
Also I agreed to your opinion.
In japanese bootleg market, just as you wrote, Zep/Clapton/Beatles have a large amount of market and ABB is small.
I fell sorry and I know it's so shame to buy this one, but when I saw the thing I couldn't stop to buy it......
How do you think what can I do for this comunity?
I have only a few items to share with.

1. Own made DVD of coupling Fillmore East footage and Love Valley footage.
2. My own recorded Eric Clapton show when he visited Japan at 1975.
3. Some bootlegs copies of Derek & The Dominos footages.

Thank you so much for your opinion.
Masahiko,

 

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  posted on 4/18/2005 at 01:30 PM
Hi masahiko.Check your private messages.Thanks
 

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[quote Another minor change I noticed was Duane taking the second solo in Statesboro Blues.


I noticed this too right around the closing of the FE. 6/27/71 Duane takes the second solo. I asked about this in a thread a while back and nobody replied. So somewhere between the recording in March and June of 71 they switched solos in Statesboro

 

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  posted on 4/25/2005 at 11:34 PM
*I fell sorry and I know it's so shame to buy this one, but when I saw the thing I couldn't stop to buy it......
How do you think what can I do for this comunity?
I have only a few items to share with.*

Masa,

How is the trading circles in Japan? From what I remember, Japan is mostly dominated by the bootleg community rather than trading.

Your 75' Clapton recording alone is should get trade offers.

 

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  posted on 4/26/2005 at 11:17 AM
hi finsky.I traded masahiko for the clapton show and would like to share it with group if its OK with masahiko.I dont have a cd burner though so what i was thinking was to send my copy to someone here and they can make a copy and share with group.Then they can send me my copy back.Can you tell me someone that you trust that would want to do this.Would you be interested.Let me know.Thanks
 

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  posted on 4/26/2005 at 11:33 AM
Is this a non-circulating source? If so, there should be a demand for this, as the Clapton Legion is out there in full force.

I'm not interested in the show(not my favorite Clapton era), but I can make a copy for you. I can offer up a b&p as well (lol, after what I just posted there on that thread), & hopefully the thing can spread. From what I remember...the EC shows from Japan are usually stellar.

Hey, Masahiko, are there any shows you are looking for? Maybe we can set something up where they can get this Clapton show, if they send a show in return? I'm sure something can be worked out.

 

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  posted on 4/26/2005 at 11:43 AM
i think there is a version of this on a bootleg label already but maybe people would be interested in a second source.Talk about not spreading i sent someone a clapton dvd(7/12/2004)with the understanding he would reoffer it since i dont have a dvd burner.After i sent it to him he said he had no burner either!!Anyway masahiko also sent me a version of 12/1/1970 derek and doninoes(called in the skydog)and 11/6/1970 derek and dominoes.Let me know.Thanks
 

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*Anyway masahiko also sent me a version of 12/1/1970 derek and doninoes(called in the skydog)and 11/6/1970 derek and dominoes.Let me know.Thanks*

You can PM me. Are you sure the Dominos' show isn't 11/26/70? Or 12/6/70? I can make a copy for you if you want.

 

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  posted on 4/26/2005 at 01:31 PM
Derek and dominoes 11/6/1970 (price of love)dallas texas where the pa system comes from(inside zeppelin boot joke)
 

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  posted on 4/28/2005 at 08:25 PM
Dear finsky, btk,

Thanks so much for your help and suggestions.
I'm sorry for being late to response.

* How is the trading circles in Japan? From what I remember, Japan is mostly dominated by the bootleg community rather than trading. *

Yes, its true. But some of them are trading their bootleg source each other and not for B&P.
About ABB, there are minor majority because of ABB's trading rule, I think.
One of the famous group for ABB, administrator is well known by many members here, doing B&P offers very much.

In Japan, buying bootleg is most easy way to hear unofficial source of favorite musicians.
I don't know trading community such as etree.org in Japan, so I think only way to find traders in Japan is search titles of looking for by googles etc.
Using English is not easy for many japanese, so there are very big wall in front of him to trade or request B&P with overseas traders.
Also, Japanese bootleg market seems large, I don't know where it did but bootleggers sometimes dig very rare sources which are not circulated around the traders.
Or sometimes did amazing remastering to well known sources just like D&D with skydog at Tampa.

To do trade my EC '75 recording with Japanese, it must be done with reliable one I know well.
I'm afraid of my source being in hand of bootlegger.

I was being very kind by some members here especialy Clay, Dyermaker and so on and have had started some trades.
I'm realy so appreciated to them.
So I'd like to re-offer their sources in Japan, also here, I'm sure.

Also, btk, about re-offering my traded sources with help of finsky, I am OK and greatly appreciate to you and finsky, however it's my role I think.
I should open some vines here, I promise.

finsky,
If I need some suggestion wtih re-offer or so, then please help me.

Thanks for all of here and feel so sorry of my bad long English.

[Edited on 4/29/2005 by MasahikoYamaura]

 

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  posted on 4/29/2005 at 10:57 AM
**Also, btk, about re-offering my traded sources with help of finsky, I am OK and greatly appreciate to you and finsky, however it's my role I think.
I should open some vines here, I promise.

finsky,
If I need some suggestion wtih re-offer or so, then please help me.**

Considering you have a Clapton show that is unavailable elsewhere, I think you can get some great ABB shows in return for it. There are several Clapton nuts on this site, so it shouldn't be too difficult.

I'm Japanese as well, so I'm well aware of the bootlegging there. I don't think trading will ever be popular there. Just a feeling. I've seen the Mid Valley stuff before as well, & I wonder where they find the tapes. I eat ramen/gyoza around that area whenever I am in Japan.

Again, what shows are you looking for? With Duane? Many people here can recommend you on which ones are the "best." I'd recommend...

5/2/70
7/3 & 7/5/70-Captain Skipper copies are still worth searching for. The Mtn Jam with Johnny Winter is unedited, although it still isn't inspiring.
12/31/70-superb!!
1/17/71
1/31/71
2/28/71-The Dreams is superb
3/20/71
6/27/71
8/26/71
9/16/71
9/19/71-the Captain Skipper copy- no offense to Kid Glove, but aside from the obvious Blue Sky & YDLM, this one is still the best.

And of course, the archive releases of 12/13/70 & 9/19/71.. Don't forget the Atlanta Int'l Pop Festival Release as well.




 

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  posted on 4/29/2005 at 01:35 PM
What is the difference between the Captain Skipper and Kid Glove 9/19/71 copies?
I have the "official" release and one I had previously with no Blue Sky or YDLM.
Sounds pretty much the same but I remember someone saying that the Liz Reed was different. (from the late show or the early show-=something like that).
I haven't bothered to A-B them to hear if that's true.

 

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  posted on 4/30/2005 at 09:16 PM
finsky,

I understand why you are so well known about Japanese bootleg market.

About '75 Clapton show of mine, there are bootleg of same show, but my source is much better to hear I think.
And other words, it's unavailable otherthan get from me.
I will open vine of this title and like to spread over here.

Ask to your question, I'm looking for ABB footages of Duane era.
I have almost all of official released live performance of it exclude 2/11/'70 from Grateful Dead Label.
Recently I'm so kind from some peoples here and got some shows, it's all so excellent.
2/28/'71 Brewer Fieldhouse
3/20/'71 Warehouse
5/02/'71 CCNY
Gatlinburg Tapes

There are so many footages of Duane era, I'd like to know many people's recommendation.

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  posted on 4/30/2005 at 09:17 PM
Well the Blue Sky and YDLM from the 9/19/71 is reason enough to buy it, but the whole show is just smoking, especially Dreams, I think it may be one of the best ever.
 

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  posted on 5/1/2005 at 10:42 AM
*There are so many footages of Duane era, I'd like to know many people's recommendation.*

If you are looking for footage, I'd recommend getting the dvd collection made by denza, who is a member here on this site. He has collected various sources & put them together on a 2dvd set(Fillmore East 70', & etc). Nothing really new, but it's great to have everything on dvd.


 

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*I have the "official" release and one I had previously with no Blue Sky or YDLM.
Sounds pretty much the same but I remember someone saying that the Liz Reed was different. (from the late show or the early show-=something like that).
I haven't bothered to A-B them to hear if that's true.*

Just a personal preference.

And I do believe there is a different Liz Reed.

 

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