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  posted on 2/13/2005 at 09:52 AM
http://www.gotriad.com/article/articleview/14048/1/17/

heres a nice read for you....

 
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  posted on 2/13/2005 at 10:03 AM
sorry, didnt realize someone beat me to it already
 

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  posted on 2/13/2005 at 10:49 AM
You mentioned you were working on the next Allman Brothers album. "Hittin’ the Note" was your first studio effort in nine years. Does this mean it won’t take that long for the next one to come out?

"That’s right. It should be out probably next year."

Well, I hope Gregg is right, but until a batch of songs are written and "recorded", then I wouldn't "hold my breath" about a new CD next year. Could happen, but then again, maybe not.

 
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  posted on 2/13/2005 at 01:55 PM
Remeber when HTN came out they said they already had enough out there to cut another album so We can hope for next year right?

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 07:47 AM
when was the interview conducted ? is last year this year ?

Yours clutching at straws !

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 08:41 AM
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when was the interview conducted ? is last year this year ?

The article is from three days ago, and Gregg's been quoted in a handful of different articles now saying he wants to do another album soon. He means writing more stuff, maybe with the whole band, this year and putting it out next year.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 02:49 PM
I look forward to a new album with tunes that I have never heard before.
Keep the train moving forward.
Let the kid and otiel write a couple tunes this time...
I like the last album and can't wait for the new one!!!!

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 03:11 PM
I'm guessing the new songs won't be debuted live until the album comes out. I remember Warren saying that he didn't like how people heard the new songs from HTN on tape before the album came out.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 03:28 PM
I just hope some of the new songs do make it into their setlists because i enjoy most of the songs on HTN. But for some reason, they scrapped some of the songs on the album

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 05:18 PM
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I'm guessing the new songs won't be debuted live until the album comes out. I remember Warren saying that he didn't like how people heard the new songs from HTN on tape before the album came out.


That is the opposite of how the band used to do it. They would write songs and do them live as a way of working on them. Then they would go into the studio and record them. Of course, back in those days they did about 250 to 300 gigs a year.


Sorry to say but that's a myth.
The ABB hardly ever played more than 100 shows a year.
Only in the early seventies they played about 120 shows or a bit more.
Maybe with some unlisted shows or with early and late shows it still would be
about 150 shows max.
Just my 2 cents.

BTW I hope they chose the middle way.
Work on a few songs during the 2005 Beacon and Summer Run and keep the other
songs to themselves so they are new and unheard by us peachheads when the new album is due in 2006. I knew evey song on HTN months before it was released.
It still was a fantastic album but i wished not all songs had been played before in 2001 and 2002.
Again, just my 2 cents.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 06:01 PM
How 'bout some predictions on the new album? On HTN there was Woman Across the River, Who to Believe, and Heart of Stone. From Warren there was Rockin Horse and Old Friend. So if we stick to the formula of two already written Warren songs, three covers, and 4 new songs (one being an instrumental) we can make some predictions for the next album (not they're going to follow this formula but this is just for fun). I think from Warren theres gonna be Patchwork Quilt and maybe Worried Down With the Blues. For covers I think we'll get Who's Been Talkin and two newer ones. Guess away...

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 06:10 PM
I was thinking it would be nice to add a second" live" disc to a studio disc ala 'Eat a Peach' . Maybe some recent Beacon shows with the special guests like Hubert Sumlin etc. and some unrecorded songs , Layla among others. Looking forward to whatever is released.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 06:14 PM
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Sorry to say but that's a myth.
The ABB hardly ever played more than 100 shows a year.
Only in the early seventies they played about 120 shows or a bit more.
Maybe with some unlisted shows or with early and late shows it still would be
about 150 shows max.

I doubt that. Butch's word (which is that they did 250 to 300 a year) may be exaggerated, but I feel pretty sure he's not off by that much. If you pick any month between '69 and '71 and look at how many open dates there are when they were definitely out on tour...

Look at Feb. '71. On the 1st, they were in Los Angeles. Then nothing is listed until the 5th, when they played Philadelphia. I bet they played some shows on the trip cross-country. Then nothing until the next weekend (12th and 13th: SC, 14th: NC). Then nothing until the 25th, when they're in Ohio. Then on consecutive nights they play Detroit twice and one in Missouri.

My favorite ABB traveling example:
9/16/71: New Orleans
9/17: Memphis (distance from N.O. to Memphis according to MapQuest: 395 miles)
9/18: Dayton, OH (Memphis to Dayton, 534 miles)
9/19: Stonybrook, NY (Dayton to Stonybrook, 690 miles)
We don't know where they were the next day, but they were in Texas a week later.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 06:42 PM
Have to agree with you Marley. There's at least 2 shows I know about from 1970 that they played that's not in the data base. I think back then if they had an "open" date between shows, they picked up whatever job at a club, college gym, wherever to fill in the gap. Bands on the road, especially when the ABB were starting out, couldn't afford to have an "open" date as it cost just as much for food, hotel, ect on those days as it did for the days that they were playing. And the truth is, that really hasn't changed all that much, especially for bands starting out or bands playing outside of their "home" region.
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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 07:06 PM
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How 'bout some predictions on the new album? On HTN there was Woman Across the River, Who to Believe, and Heart of Stone. From Warren there was Rockin Horse and Old Friend. So if we stick to the formula of two already written Warren songs, three covers, and 4 new songs (one being an instrumental) we can make some predictions for the next album (not they're going to follow this formula but this is just for fun). I think from Warren theres gonna be Patchwork Quilt and maybe Worried Down With the Blues. For covers I think we'll get Who's Been Talkin and two newer ones. Guess away...




Hmm....This sounds fun. Lemme take a guess at it:

Warren Covers:
Patchwork Quilt
Banks Of The Deep End

Other Covers:
44 Blues
The Sky Is Cryin'
Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad/Franklin's Tower*

The rest I'd have to say that we could expect new written material by Gregg or Warren, and perhaps an instrumental piece

*=Technically it's two covers, but the combo worked so well last summer I'd like them to do it as one track!

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 07:14 PM
For covers on the new album(if there is one) I would love to see them try "Roadhouse Blues" heard Greg sit in with Warren on an old tape where they played that and it sounded great.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 07:16 PM
I don't think there's any way the ABB records Patchwork Quilt or Banks of the Deep End. The Mule has released them both on recent albums, and they hardly ever played those songs - a couple of times each in 2003, and only PQ outside the Beacon (once). A good thing, in my opinion. Why Does Love>Franklin's seems like the kind of thing that would work much better live. I'm hoping this album has two older songs/covers at most. Depending on how you slice it, HTN had five or six. They've probably exhausted the older, unrecorded songs, so that would just leave a lot of covers.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 07:28 PM
Marley, I forgot about the Why does love>Franklins. Good call on that one. I also liked the version of "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" that they did.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 07:46 PM
Actually of all the covers they've done in last 5 years, the one I'd like to hear a studio version of is "I Walk on Gilded Splinters". Plus, I hope they bring back "Loan Me a Dime" in the live sets, and therefore I wouldn't mind a studio version either.

As far as originals, Oteil wrote that song "Walk Like a Man", which only got played live twice in 2000 and it was a great song. I remember Oteil saying that he wanted to rewrite the words and/or have someone else do it and sing it. Musically, the song was awesome and perfect for the band, in my opinion. The song did get a rewrite and ended up on Oteil's last album, however the outcome was very different (still great, indeed) and less ABB-like. I would love to see them rework the original ABB-music arrangement of that song into something new. - And if not, I would like to see a song with that 6/8 feel, ala "Whipping Post" or "Nobody Knows". That was the only style that was missing from HTN, in my opinion. But it's still one of my favorite albums and I anxiously await the follow-up.

I do feel that the band works the best playing the music live first and then doing the studio versions. However, I was very used to most of the songs from HTN long before the album came out. - So it might be neat if they play them sparingly and release the album quickly. Maybe play some often and others not at all.

Another idea of previously written material that I would like to see either live or on a studio album, which this lineup would TOTALLY tear up, would be Jack Pearson's "I'm Not Crying".

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 08:10 PM
What song did Walk Like a Man become?

As far as the touring stuff goes, I had an idea about how to estimate the number of shows the original ABB did, and I'll post the results and method later tonight.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 08:14 PM
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Why Does Love>Franklin's seems like the kind of thing that would work much better live.

warren said after HTN that when they record, they record it like they are playing live

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 08:31 PM
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I was thinking it would be nice to add a second" live" disc to a studio disc ala 'Eat a Peach' . Maybe some recent Beacon shows with the special guests like Hubert Sumlin etc. and some unrecorded songs , Layla among others. Looking forward to whatever is released.


this is a great idea. Some live tunes/versions that most of us haven't heard yet, maybe from the most recent Beacon

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 08:39 PM
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warren said after HTN that when they record, they record it like they are playing live

I know they mostly do the 'live in the studio' thing, I mean that the crowd's response to those songs is probably a big part of what makes them special. And with the jam in the middle, this combo lasts more than 15 minutes and would be a big chunk of the album.

 

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 09:12 PM
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I'm guessing the new songs won't be debuted live until the album comes out. I remember Warren saying that he didn't like how people heard the new songs from HTN on tape before the album came out.


I would have to completely disagree with this statement. "As usual" the songs will be played before a live audience many times before they are recorded. You can count on it. Doing it this way has been hugely successful for them. They did this with HTN and they will do it again this time as well. The new CD will not be released until probably early to mid 2006. They will have an entire year to "fine tune" these songs and get them ready for the studio. It would make no sense to change something that works so well for them. You don't want to to go into a studio not having your ideas for songs fully realized. Warren definitely did not say he didn't like that people heard the songs already - just the opposite. I'm reading an article from just last year from a guitar magazine that clearly states this was a good idea and the best way for them to get ready to release new music to the public...The ABB does not use stuido trickery to make an album sound good. They basically play the songs live and have minimal overdubs when remixing the tracks...

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  posted on 2/14/2005 at 10:16 PM
Normally I'd agree, Eddie, but Gov't Mule did just put out an album of songs they had never played live before. Although maybe that was because of the new lineup.

 

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