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  posted on 12/26/2004 at 02:36 AM
I just got through browsing the HTN website, checking out all of the new instant live recordings of this last year. It seems like listening to abb recordings has become a new ball game. I think there are many advantages to Instant Live recordings, advantages like quality recordings, lack of duplication errors, packaging, etc. And I understand it was only a matter of time until the abb got around to participating in the "instant live" concept.



Anyway, my question is, how much impact has this had, is this having, on plain old fashioned trading? And I have a dial up connection also, so I can't even participate in the "bit torrent" SHN thing, or whatever that new technology is. And then there is that soncially cleansed technology that I have heard about. I don't think that is the same as Skip Littlewood remastering a show.

Anyway, of the shows that were recorded in the last year, are other sources traded?

Was it just the summer run that was captured by the "instant live" recordings?

Was amateur taping allowed at those shows?


And I don't have $800 to buy the summer abb run either. Dang. Even the shipping of the summer run looks expensive to me. I'm not used to doling out heaps of cash to get abb live recordings. Or maybe I am, since I used to spend a lot of cash buying blanks, shipping cds, etc.


What are old time traders doing?


Gee, I was only out offline for about six months, and now I don't even know what is available to trade?


So what abb recordings from 2004 are being traded now, is it just the stuff from the spring?




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  posted on 12/27/2004 at 06:39 PM
Tapers are still allowed to tape and trade. You can probably get the audience tapes of all the shows for sale. - I can't tell you what impact it has, I will admit, I did not tape this year myself because they were doing Instant Live (but moreso because it was hard to bring everything to work and then to the shows). However there were plenty of tapers at the show. I will probably resume taping next year. Hopefully I will purchase all of the instant lives and trade for the shows that weren't IL.
 

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  posted on 12/27/2004 at 06:54 PM
Well, the IL's seem to be of better mix and quality than a lot of tapes, so I'm looking at getting a number of them (when I actually start B&P and trading, have no burner and just ran out of CD-R's ) If you check the trade and vine sections, you'll see there are still a number of tapes of the summer shows. If you do get some IL's, I'd suggest the Fox Box first because it comes in a fun box, since the entire set is very pricey

Then again, I myself am a newbie, so you probably know more than I.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2004 at 07:02 PM
The advantage of an Instant Live recording is the sound qaulity. Other than that, I find them very cheap. I had an Instant Live from the Syracuse show and the next morning the whole case had warps in it. I love Instant Live and what they do, provide excellent recordings, but I'm going to stand on one side of the fence this time... and I'll say it again, I think they're trying to wipe out traders. I'm thinking about buying some taping gear, with this new technology there are plenty of nice tools out there for taping. It would be a lot of fun. After editing a lot of the shows, they sound like SBD qaulities... and you can thank Capt. Skipper for a lot of that. I'm still live and trading/B&Ping.. the hardest part is deffinitly who's taping it. But putting some great shows/great music into rotation is what I live for, and I live for grabbin' some qaulity shows along the way too. IL is great, it's perfect for folks that have no idea about the taping scene.

 

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  posted on 12/29/2004 at 04:33 AM
... and I'll say it again, I think they're trying to wipe out traders...




I think the Allman Brothers Band is smarter than to BITE the hand that feeds, them, that is, they aren't trying to wipe out traders. I think they merely hope to get a piece of the action. And as things stands, the ABB would have to work hard to wipe out the trading of abb shows. But they could seriously impact trading if they chose to. First, they could decide to stop condoning and allowing taping. The band could condemn traders, but why would they, since it was fans who largely preserved and recorded what we have today. I think the band just would like to, for once, to get in on some real action from one professionally recorded run.

But I did ask my questions, JUST IN CASE something had changed. If the band suddenly got weird about trading shows it would be a break in what has always been encouraged. The band has encouraged taping since it's inception. And any strange new ban on trading would seriously piss off too many fans. Fans might even boycott shows. I don't think the abb could ever become so greedy as to become stupid. The band will always allow taping, but I do think many venues do not allow taping, and that is outside of the influence of what the band's jurisdiction. Some venues lack space for tapers. Some venues simply don't allow for taping. Or at least I believe this is the case. I know that when Dickey did the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame show with LeeRoy Parnell some time back, that that venue did not allow taping. That is at least my understanding. And so what we have from that show is not a stellar sounding audio. And it is a shame because on that night, for instance, Dickey explained the ORGIN OF IN MEMORY OF ELIZABETH REED. Dickey explained the history of the song, and I think he said the woman's name was Carmen. I'll check that fact and get back to this thread.





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  posted on 12/29/2004 at 04:33 AM
... and I'll say it again, I think they're trying to wipe out traders...




I think the Allman Brothers Band is smarter than to BITE the hand that feeds, them, that is, they aren't trying to wipe out traders. I think they merely hope to get a piece of the action. And as things stands, the ABB would have to work hard to wipe out the trading of abb shows. But they could seriously impact trading if they chose to. First, they could decide to stop condoning and allowing taping. The band could condemn traders, but why would they, since it was fans who largely preserved and recorded what we have today. I think the band just would like to, for once, to get in on some real action from one professionally recorded run.

But I did ask my questions, JUST IN CASE something had changed. If the band suddenly got weird about trading shows it would be a break in what has always been encouraged. The band has encouraged taping since it's inception. And any strange new ban on trading would seriously piss off too many fans. Fans might even boycott shows. I don't think the abb could ever become so greedy as to become stupid. The band will always allow taping, but I do think many venues do not allow taping, and that is outside of the influence of what the band's jurisdiction. Some venues lack space for tapers. Some venues simply don't allow for taping. Or at least I believe this is the case. I know that when Dickey did the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame show with LeeRoy Parnell some time back, that that venue did not allow taping. That is at least my understanding. And so what we have from that show is a fairly POOR sounding audio. And it is a shame because on that night, for instance, Dickey explained the ORGIN OF IN MEMORY OF ELIZABETH REED. Dickey explained the history of the song, and I think he said the woman's name was Carmen. I'll check that fact and get back to this thread.



 

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  posted on 12/29/2004 at 04:35 AM
oh goddamn, you're back.

too bad the tsumani didn't hit florida.

 

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  posted on 12/29/2004 at 04:43 AM
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oh goddamn, you're back.

too bad the tsumani didn't hit florida.



Chris, you know that tsunami is suppossed to be the biggest catastrophe in modern history. The tragedy is really the stuff of movie fiction. There has been a catastrophic loss of life. You making a joke of something like that just goes to show how sick you are in your heart and mind. You're very sick and you can't even begin to appreciate how lucky you are. This JOKE rivals the one where you told me to put a gun in my mouth and pull the trigger. You are one sick person. But you're in luck, a lot of people here will appreciate your sickness.





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  posted on 12/29/2004 at 04:50 AM




I checked the RRHOF show and Liz Reed was written for a girl Dickey knew named Carmella.


 

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  posted on 12/29/2004 at 11:52 AM
I think somebody earlier in the thread put it perfectly. Instant Live means you can get a copy of the show without having to lug equipment around, and without having to be "on call" during the show. If you're a taper, or even know any, you know how hard they work to get a good recording.

The Allman Brothers still allow taping, and I don't think that will ever change. However, I think the better sound quality and less work makes Instant Live a great option for people like me, who frankly don't want to work that hard

 
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  posted on 12/29/2004 at 12:55 PM
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I think somebody earlier in the thread put it perfectly. Instant Live means you can get a copy of the show without having to lug equipment around, and without having to be "on call" during the show. If you're a taper, or even know any, you know how hard they work to get a good recording.

The Allman Brothers still allow taping, and I don't think that will ever change. However, I think the better sound quality and less work makes Instant Live a great option for people like me, who frankly don't want to work that hard


I believe that one thing that sells a lot of IL's is the "I-want-it-now" mentality and love of instant gratification in this country. You can listen to the show as soon as you get in the car to drive home from the show. Plus they do sound good. Great product,even better than the Muletracks idea!!!

 
 


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