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  posted on 11/6/2004 at 01:33 PM
i have a question..im also a huge deadhead,the abb is far better but im wondering if anyone knows how the sound quality is on the deads wave that flag cd,s from the summer tour 2004..??im thinkin of buying a couple of them..

then i sure miss usa..nashville,memhis,new orleans etc..it was a dream come true for me to se abb in memphis 5th oct and dickey betts in new orleans..i love you country,good looking women,nice food and wievs..i sure hope the abb will tour next year..im planing a
trip in june/july next year..hope they tour then..

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  posted on 11/6/2004 at 01:46 PM
I have one of them. 8/10. Very good quality.

I have a few from last year, and they are also good quality

 

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  posted on 11/6/2004 at 01:53 PM
2nd that..... Sound is very nice..... Great blend of audience with the band.........

Cannot compare to the ABB discs..... Both bands sound so different except you have the Haynes factor in both....... LOL

Almost any of the DEAD 2004 shows came out nice if you like the setlist that they played that night........

 

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  posted on 11/6/2004 at 02:01 PM
The 8/11 PNC show was KILLER

I was there in the POURING rain

Joan O. guesting almost the entire second set

Sure made it worth it

 

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  posted on 11/6/2004 at 07:33 PM
The Dead discs are of great quality. They also get them there in a reasonable about of time and no glictches from what I've heard. Unlike the ABB Instant Live discs. From what I've heard and read hear in the forum, the ABB discs are super slow getting to their destination and there have been a number of problems such as two disc #2's and no disc 3 (among other issues). I'm sure these issues are not regular occurances, but there are issues nevertheless. The sound quality on the ABB discs is great from what I've heard (if you ever get them and you get the entire show).

Either way, both bands are worth the chance ($20-25). As for the Dead, I prefer the 2003 Summer Getaway Tour discs with Joanie's vocals and less guitars (even if it is Warren who's missing).

 

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  posted on 11/6/2004 at 11:40 PM
i found the 04 dead sbd's to be a notable quality increase over 03. the ones i have from 03 have a few pops and other gltches, 04 i havent hear any (only have 7-31). the dead and abb ones are both worth the money.

 

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  posted on 11/7/2004 at 12:02 AM
i too have the 8/10 show. The trebles a lil high on bobbies mic. u can here it with headphones . but no reason not to buy

 

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  posted on 11/7/2004 at 12:41 AM
greetings:

I bought the one for the show I went to and love it.

the last week of June at Sleep Train Ampitheater

kewl covers of
Into the Mystic
After Midnite
Over The Hills and Far Away
Goin down the road feelin bad
angel band

worth spending a few frogskins on...no doubt

 

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  posted on 11/10/2004 at 05:00 PM
I have The Dead's first night at the Tweeter Center and I tel ya: It sounds AWESOME!!! I also have the Allmans' Tweeter show, that sounded great, even if I didn't go.

The Tweeter Center is the place to be!!

 

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  posted on 11/10/2004 at 06:17 PM
Even though I didn't ask the question... Thanks for the answers!!! And thanks for asking sweden. I have tons of the 03 shows, but I've been a little more broke this year and haven't bought any 04 yet. I didn't go this year, even though I love the Dead (even the recent bands) and I love Warren, but frankly, I'm sick of dealing with the crowds. I just want the music... Anyway, the sound quality on the 03 discs seemed pretty different from show to show, but all good and worth the money. I'm really curious about a lot of the 04 setlists, plus hearing Warren in the mix. As much as I love Warren, I'm not crazy about the 3 guitar split in the Dead. Anyway, now that I've heard reviews, I'll really have to buy some!
 

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  posted on 11/11/2004 at 12:52 AM
The Brothers - delayed the mfg of the 2003 disc to remix one show so that Mtn. Jam was not interrupted - many of us suffered through the EAP Album split and didn't want it again! This caused the delivery delay. By the way, we shipped primarily via UPS , not regular mail, as the Dead did.

Disc 3 was bad on the Charlotte show .0004 percent of the time. That means 99.9996 didn't have the probem. Disc 3 was missing .0015 percent of the time.

I'm the Business Manager at Kid Glove Enterprises, Inc. (Home of Hittin' the Note magazine)...so these are actual figures. Still, there is much improvement needed on our end and your comments are a good reminder that we need to do better each time we release these types of products.

We would welcome more input - do people prefer the plastic CD sleeves or the cardboard digipaks? Any other comparison comments or general suggestions?

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  posted on 11/11/2004 at 01:01 AM
i like the cardboard

 

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  posted on 11/11/2004 at 01:07 AM
I like the digipaks as well.

Would there be a way to print the setlists on the discs maybe though??

Thats really the only drawback on these things that I can see.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2004 at 02:54 AM
I've got one of them(8-6-04) and its really good quality. I would say its almost as good as the ABB ones. The only substantial difference is the guitars are not seperated as well as on the ABB ones. I listen late at night a lot when others are sleeping, so I listen through headphones a lot. With the ABB Warren is waaaay over in one channel, and Derek is waaaay over in the other. On the GD concert Warren and Jimmy are barely seperated. One is *slightly* to the left and the other *slightly* to the right. Sometimes they sort of blend together due to such little seperation. Other than that its great.


At least its better than Dicky's. His instant live is very good imo but the guitars dont sound seperated at all. You have to know the style pretty well to know who is taking a solo.

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  posted on 11/12/2004 at 11:32 PM
this is just my opinion and i guess not real insightful but as a dude w/every one of the available 2003 and 2004 dead shows-they're nice-sounding across the board, really to me. i'd have to say that the dead shows beat several of the live phish volumes-interestingly there's a bigger swing in sound among the phish shows, and those were commercial releases thru Elektra.

So for being made by whoever the he11 "munchmix" is they do a bang-up job and ship the shows quick.

i think the instant lives from ABB and the moe. 6 2003 fall/winter instant lives nose out the dead for pure quality, but they're close. as another poster stated on this thread, the separation between trucks and haynes is distinct and killer, way better than the dead shows. only preference deal w/the dead shows is joan's presence for me unfortunately. sometime's she fine and does china doll well, i'll take the 2004 version even though they could let the guitars soar more. maybe it's me but herring doesn't ever stand out. but warren rips.

and finally i'll reccomend the 7.1.04 boise show in particular as well as jones beach 8.13.04 and if branford works for ya he's pretty good on the 8.17.04 raleigh gig. again, just my thoughts.
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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 12:12 AM
Plastic, no good for the environment. Cardboard - good.

I recently dealt with Kidd Glove, my first experience. There was a problem with your site accepting my 120 dollar order - it said something about an error. I just thought the order didn't go through, and ended up buying a few of the discs I was seeking at a local retail outlet.

After about 3 weeks I noticed there was the charge on my card. I put calling Kidd Glove on my to do list. Approximately 2-3 days later someone from Kid Gove contacted me. I tought that was very professional of the organization. The person asked me for my order by leaving a message on my cell phone. I called back a few days later. THe person and I played telephone tag for a few days. Eventually I left my email address for the person to write me. The person did so promptly.

The person again asked for my order and also told me that I would have to send my credit card information in any event because Kidd Glove didn't have it to give me a credit. I then finally found the order I placed (I had saved a word file of the order just in case) and ordered the items that I still wanted (a few 03 IL's, Fillmore, and a DTB cd) and KG did issue a credit for the difference.

I ended up having to send my credit card info over email, which I wasn't happy about, and I ended up having to put a certain amount of energy into following up on the order, which I was also not happy about. Further, while the KG employee was very nice and responsive, there was a few times a beat was missed. (One time was due to a hurricane, which I totally understood.)

I do hope that you can fix your internet site so that the orders can go through without a hassle. It was a little annoying to have an internet purchase take so long to straighten out and in fact, it was the first time I ever had any real problem purchasing over the net. I also thought it was a problem as far as my credit card information goes as I wondered about the secureness of your site. I'll probably wait a while before ordering from KG again, though I will probably do so at some point becasue I can't get Instant Lives any other way.

Sorry for the kevtching.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 01:34 AM
No apology needed from you...just us - Hittin' the Note.

Thats a pretty accurate story and I appreciate the manner in which you told it. The bottom line is that, even when problems are handled well, it still is an inconvenience to the customer - and that is not a good thing.

We appreciate you noting is that we tried to be pro-active with this problem and initiate contact with the customer. We have concerned people on the phone to help - so you have more ways than just e-mail to communicate. But, we can handle only so many calls. This really is an internet business - so there are a number of things we are undertaking to make this better:

We are in the process of beta testing some order status software on our site so that you can check the status of your order online, resolve problems and automatically be e-mailed when it ships.

We are evaluating new internet/order processing changes and upgrades.

We are expanding access to our server so that less "time outs" occur.

We really do care about making this a "no-hassle" transaction and what we are experiencing now is rapid growing pains. We need to upgrade a number of tools to help us deal with the larger volumes that are occuring and appreciate your patience through this.

I hope you will come back to us. We are made up of true, long-time fans of the Allman Brothers Band and care about the people that play the music and those that listen.

I welcome continuing this dialog either here on on my private messages.

Best Regards,

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 10:47 AM
For what it's worth, I've been ordering things from HTN since around 92 when it was nothing but mail-order - it wasn't even an internet business then. I've probably ordered 1 or 2 things every year since and not once has there ever been a problem. Just one man's story, but I've been more than happy with the service that the good folks at HTN provide....

Thanks! and keep up the good work!

 

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  posted on 11/13/2004 at 11:22 AM
The 7/27/04 sounds great, but then again I was given a soundboard copy and that may not count.

 

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