Don't click or your IP will be banned


Hittin' The Web with the Allman Brothers Band Forum
You are not logged in

< Last Thread   Next Thread ><<  1    2  >>Ascending sortDescending sorting  
Author: Subject: Who influenced Butch?

Peach Pro





Posts: 419
(419 all sites)
Registered: 4/8/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 10/17/2004 at 06:17 AM
The Subject tells everything........

Who influenced Bucth.......What kind of drummers he liked?......

Between the end of the '60 & the beginning of '70 many drummers played very well....

Who are his favorites?


 
Replies:

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1703
(1810 all sites)
Registered: 4/20/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 10/17/2004 at 12:21 PM
I remember reading that he really dug Joe Morello early on.

Maybe Butch will drop in and enlighten us.

 

____________________
Go Ask Alice


 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20685
(20770 all sites)
Registered: 11/26/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 10/18/2004 at 12:48 AM
There are some threads here about Elvin Jones, he's one.

 

____________________
http://www.tylersmusicroom.org

 
E-Mail User

Peach Head



Karma:
Posts: 188
(188 all sites)
Registered: 1/21/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 11/1/2004 at 10:18 AM
I asked him that very question a few years ago, his answer was Joe Morello for fundamentals and Elvin Jones for improvisation and feel.

I also know that he holds Billy Cobham and Tony Williams in high esteem. He and Jaimoe asked Cobham for lessons after seeing Mahavishnu.

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 23542
(24044 all sites)
Registered: 1/2/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 11/2/2004 at 05:23 PM
Yo Vaylor!! That's some dad you got for a drummer! Or is it - That's some drummer you got for a dad?

 

____________________

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 18513
(18979 all sites)
Registered: 1/19/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/2/2005 at 08:17 PM
Somebody else has influenced him too. He's playing in the tristate area March 4, March 5, March 6th. Couldn't ya covertly go and see his band, just see him? You don't have to talk to him just go see him......If I don't yell at ya to bring him back, won't ya consider it, it isn't far from NYC, when you are done with rehearsals, just sneak in when the lights are low, and you can even slip out before the end of the encore nobody will know you are there unless you want them to know......

 

____________________
"Mankind is a single nation" "Allah did not make you a single people so he could try you in what he gave you, to him you will all return, he will inform you where you differed". Quran Chapter 2 Sura 213

 

Peach Head



Karma:
Posts: 63
(63 all sites)
Registered: 2/21/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/4/2005 at 07:56 AM
"He and Jaimoe asked Cobham for lessons after seeing Mahavishnu."

I totally respect Billy Cobham, but it is strange to hear of Butch and Jaimoe asking anyone for lessons!

 

____________________
- Frim

 
E-Mail User

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 6612
(6612 all sites)
Registered: 11/7/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/4/2005 at 12:06 PM
I agee with Gina, Butch's greatest drumming influence was clearly Dickey Betts, one of the great rock drummers of all time. I always loved his drum solo during Ramblin' Man.
 
E-Mail User

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 18513
(18979 all sites)
Registered: 1/19/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/4/2005 at 05:01 PM
He influenced his playing Rob and you know it. Butch has said his playing with ABB is trying to anticipate where the others are going and provide what is needed so that it all comes out right, and I think he does that quite well. Dickey always did a lot of improv solos and jams, to drum around that and bring everybody else back as a group is not an easy task, but Butch has thru his intuition and abilities. Sooo, he has been influenced by more than just drummers to develop his techniques and talents.

 

____________________
"Mankind is a single nation" "Allah did not make you a single people so he could try you in what he gave you, to him you will all return, he will inform you where you differed". Quran Chapter 2 Sura 213

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20685
(20770 all sites)
Registered: 11/26/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/4/2005 at 05:52 PM
Gina, Butch posts at this site so rarely these days. Could you please rein in your stupidity and not make him feel entirely unwelcome? Are you so deluded you think your posting makes any difference?

 

____________________
http://www.tylersmusicroom.org

 
E-Mail User

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 699
(707 all sites)
Registered: 1/29/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/4/2005 at 08:56 PM
Really Gina, Its gone to far now. Now if Dickey ever saw these posts he'd think that you are crazy. So just stop. You're making Dickey look bad.

[Edited on 3/5/2005 by lespaul71]

 

____________________
This Machine kills Fascists

 

Peach Head



Karma:
Posts: 83
(91 all sites)
Registered: 3/15/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/5/2005 at 09:38 AM
You've pretty much covered the subject. I studied with Elvin for a bit but it seemed that I was doing as much teaching as learning. We had a great time picking each other's brains. I tried to get some lessons from Tony Williams but he was booked solid when I was able and vice versa. The crop that's around now has some great drummers but I'm afraid that my style and technique is pretty much set. Steve Gadd blows me away. I think for pure musicality on drums he's the best of the best. Dennis Chambers and Dave Weckl have unbelieveable chops. As far as people other than drummers influencing my music, I'd have to say that Beethoven, Dvorak, Ravel, Debussey and Gershwin would come long before guitar players. I grew up listening to this music and my approach to music is derived from them and the music I learned in church. As far as the "single" most influential person in my life, not just music, that would be Duane Allman. I can still vividly remember the day he looked inside of me and flicked the switch. Without that experience and the confidence I derived from that revelation in 1969 you sure as hell wouldn't even know my name in 2005. I see no constructive reason to even comment on the other line of talk other than to state: you know nothing about what you write. Not even the slightest clue.
 

Peach Extraordinaire



Karma:
Posts: 4912
(4924 all sites)
Registered: 3/29/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/5/2005 at 09:46 AM
Thanks very much for the insight Butch. Deeply appreciated

Elvin and Tony Williams were such great talents and such incredible players. Their dedication and love for the music shines through in everything that they played.

As far as Tony Williams goes, I know it's only a small part of his career, but I will never get enough of that Miles "Plugged Nickel" Box set. Stunning. Brain Melting stuff

 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1574
(1574 all sites)
Registered: 11/30/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/5/2005 at 12:19 PM
Thanks for that response Butch. Studied with Elvin, must have been an incredible experience. On the topic of Elvin (somewhat), Derek has been playing Greensleeves & Favorite Things lately and has been using the same approach on his solo, on both songs. He's playing straight lead and with incredible melodic sensibility, that I haven't heard from his lead playing before, blowing like Coltrane. We all know he has it in spades, with his slide. I'd love to see him bring that to ABB. As much as that is part of DTB, I believe some of that can be carried over to ABB and move the band into some unchartered territory. With new songs coming and a new record in the future, I'd like to see Derek become a bigger part of that, than he has been, since joining. Any insight into that?
 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 699
(707 all sites)
Registered: 1/29/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/5/2005 at 12:24 PM
quote:
Steve Gadd blows me away.

Steve is spectacular Butch, I couldnt agree more.

 

____________________
This Machine kills Fascists

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 556
(556 all sites)
Registered: 2/28/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/5/2005 at 09:39 PM
It certainly wasn't the Beatles....was it Butch?

 

____________________
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/mckendrick/PABBAFE.jpg

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 556
(556 all sites)
Registered: 2/28/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/6/2005 at 09:38 AM
Gina,

I gotta say, I agree with Marley, Lespaul71 and old time fan.

I think the reply was maybe a polite way of saying "Drop it".

 

____________________
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/mckendrick/PABBAFE.jpg

 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5049
(5088 all sites)
Registered: 11/29/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/6/2005 at 11:16 AM
or perhaps "you know not what you say" LOL....
BT - see you at Beacon and we can't wait!!! Rock this world......

PeachNuTT


 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 699
(707 all sites)
Registered: 1/29/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/6/2005 at 06:00 PM
Butch is right of course, There is soooo much that we dont understand. There is so much else that went on between Dickey and the Band that finally led up to him hitting the road. So really, if it gets down to it, some of us may have a better understanding of why Dickey left than others, but none of us really know why it happened the way it did.

 

____________________
This Machine kills Fascists

 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5049
(5088 all sites)
Registered: 11/29/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/6/2005 at 07:37 PM
certainly none of us will ever know what it was like on the inside because we ain't there...
 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20685
(20770 all sites)
Registered: 11/26/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/8/2005 at 12:39 AM
quote:
What if God was one of us....

The only one of us on the forum old enough to be god is Coot...

 

____________________
http://www.tylersmusicroom.org

 
E-Mail User

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20685
(20770 all sites)
Registered: 11/26/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/8/2005 at 01:06 AM
There's old and then there's old. Work with me here.

 

____________________
http://www.tylersmusicroom.org

 
E-Mail User

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5049
(5088 all sites)
Registered: 11/29/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/8/2005 at 09:37 AM
just a slob like one of us? That means i could be him too...... LOL
 

World Class Peach



Karma:
Posts: 5049
(5088 all sites)
Registered: 11/29/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/8/2005 at 07:39 PM
hey......don't be so sure....you never know, you know......
 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 20685
(20770 all sites)
Registered: 11/26/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 3/9/2005 at 01:40 AM
quote:
Your son doesn't believe in God. So in his mind you don't exist. But he knows that you exist, so you can't be God.

That's only if I believe he believes he's god, or if I- no wait, if he- oh, I forget.

 

____________________
http://www.tylersmusicroom.org

 
E-Mail User
<<  1    2  >>  


Powered by XForum 1.81.1 by Trollix Software


Privacy | Terms of Service
The ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND name, The ALLMAN BROTHERS name, likenesses, logos, mushroom design and peach truck are all registered trademarks of THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. whose rights are specifically reserved. Any artwork, visual, or audio representations used on this web site CONTAINING ANY REGISTERED TRADEMARKS are under license from The ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. A REVOCABLE, GRATIS LICENSE IS GRANTED TO ALL REGISTERED PEACH CORP MEMBERS FOR The DOWNLOADING OF ONE COPY FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY. ANY DISTRIBUTION OR REPRODUCTION OF THE TRADEMARKS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE PROHIBITED AND ARE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED BY THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO.,INC.
site by Hittin' the Web Group with www.experiencewasabi3d.com