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  posted on 10/15/2004 at 02:26 PM
Just picked up this CD...friends as a huge Gov't Mule fan it really pains me to say this...but this album at least at first listen is...lame, boring, whatever. WAY too many funeral dirge sounding songs, I keep waiting for Warren to cut loose but other than a couple of songs it never really happens. I've always felt Warren's voice complemented his guitar playing, but on this CD his guitar seems to be taking a back seat. Mr. Man and New World Blues are pretty good songs, but that's about it.

It often takes me a few listens to appreciate or enjoy an album more than at first, but with this one, I don't know. There is nothing to approach say Wandering Child, Bad Little Doggie, Blind Man In the Dark, Mule, Thorazine Shuffle, i.e. songs that kick butt! So maybe that's a reflection of my personal tastes, that is I really miss the "power trio" sound of the Woody years. You can't go back again, I realize that, but I just wish they would have cut loose more on a lot of the songs on this CD. Several of the songs seeme dto be kicking into gear...and then slowed back down to a crawl. And I can't really envision much of a difference hearing them performed live. That was always the thing with the "old" Mule, they could take a studio song that was pretty good and turn it into high octane when done live.

Maybe they could have slipped in a couple of cover tunes? That might to some reflect a lack of originality, but it never stopped them from doing that before.

Man I hate to be critical of a band that I truly enjoy, but that's how I feel. I'd really like to know what the hardcores and "casual" fans think...

[Edited on 10/15/2004 by awman]

 

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  posted on 10/15/2004 at 02:34 PM
I stated in another thread on this forum (can't recall which one) that I didn't think it holds up to The Deep End Vol. 1 or 2. Outside of that comment, I'm not qualified to say.

 

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  posted on 10/15/2004 at 02:35 PM
I saw them before I got the CD so I went in not knowing a lot of the songs. A couple of the songs kinda stuck with me from that show. My first listen to the CD I really expected to get rocked, but didn't save a couple of tunes. It did grow on me but I have to be in the mood. I like all the songs on it but I really had to listen to it a few times. Give it some time. I agree that there is nothing on it quite like Wandering Child...

 

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  posted on 10/15/2004 at 02:42 PM
It did take a few times listening - but I love this album and really love some of the songs - Perfect Shelter and Storms About to Rage are my favorites, although Bad Man Walking, Little Toy Brain, and Lola are also outstanding....

Everybody seemed to like Slackjaw Jezebel when it first came out, but I like the songs above better.

Can't wait to see them next weekend in Chicago!

 

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  posted on 10/15/2004 at 02:44 PM
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Everybody seemed to like Slackjaw Jezebel when it first came out

the BJ song?

 

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  posted on 10/15/2004 at 02:45 PM
I'm a huge Mule fan, and with possibly the exception of DOSE, every album has taken me a while to really appreciate for some reason. This one is no exception. I think the quality is there... I think it's just a little different from the other albums. But I think each album has been some sort of progression away from the previous. - I think a lot of these songs are going to take on new life on the stage. - Also, my opinion has been that Matt seems more laid back on this album, not Warren. But again, I think there is some excellent material on there.
 

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  posted on 10/15/2004 at 02:51 PM
Give it some time. I thought the same thing about every Mule Studio CD and then one day, I think wow this is amazing. There's a lot going on there that takes some time to pick up. I do agree that Warren seems to be focusing on the songs rather than the solos which I think is a good thing. Trust me , the solos were all there at the CD release party at Roseland.

I busted out the first Mule CD on the train this morning. I remember not really liking it back in 95. Man what a great bunch of heavy tunes on there. Even tunes like Mother Earth, I haven't really appreciated until now.

 

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  posted on 10/15/2004 at 03:16 PM
Guess i'm the odd one....Loved it from the get-go.....
 

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  posted on 10/15/2004 at 11:56 PM
You need to listen to the CD again...... It is very groove oriented. I am certain the songs will grow huge in the live setting. No it is not all pumpy. Most of their CDs are not.....

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  posted on 10/16/2004 at 01:25 AM
there were a couple of good thread on this in the Warren forum


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  posted on 10/16/2004 at 09:08 AM
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yes it is

 

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  posted on 10/16/2004 at 09:58 AM
I have to admit, I wasn't crazy about the new cd either. But after hearing some of the cuts last nite in Boston its starting to grow on me. Going to Portland tonite to hear some more.
 

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  posted on 10/16/2004 at 10:35 AM
Hey bluesguy, any setlist for last night?
 

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  posted on 10/16/2004 at 11:20 AM
On second listen, it sounded a little better...still wish they'd cut loose more though...plus I just today got a couple of shows from the current tour and the songs off the new CD do sound better live...no surprise there...

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  posted on 10/16/2004 at 11:47 AM
I totally agree with Bluesguy, new cd did'nt do much for me at first but last night's show was awesome! The new material was great Iwish Iwas going to Portland tonite....maybe it's not too late. Enjoy the show Bluesguy....again.
 

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  posted on 10/19/2004 at 10:39 AM
Like awman, and a few others here have stated, the new album is growing on me the more I listen to it. Mule rocks!

 

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  posted on 10/19/2004 at 11:41 AM
I LOVE this album, in its own way as much as any other MULE album. I have listened to it at least once a day since it came out,and it IS more songwriting-oriented than instrumental-oriented. But that is actually a very natural progression for a band. No, it doesn't sound like the power-trio days. They are no longer a power trio. I saw them a few days after the album was released, in Omaha, and the new songs really grabbed me even more live, especially since they had only played each one live maybe once or twice at that point. I imagine by the time I see them in Madison,Wi., the new stuff will really be tight! Don't worry- the live shows are still packed with that incredible heavy Warren guitar sound! I've seen many of my favorite guitar bands progress towards putting the emphasis on the song and the groove over the guitar parts. Los Lobos comes to mind. That brings up a question, perhaps for another thread- do you think they would have added a keyboard player even if Woody were still around? I personally think yes, because they were kind of leaning that way with Life Before Insanity. Give Deja Voodoo time to sink in with you, it is ANYTHING BUT LAME.......
 

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I LOVE this album, in its own way as much as any other MULE album. I have listened to it at least once a day since it came out,and it IS more songwriting-oriented than instrumental-oriented. But that is actually a very natural progression for a band. No, it doesn't sound like the power-trio days. They are no longer a power trio. I saw them a few days after the album was released, in Omaha, and the new songs really grabbed me even more live, especially since they had only played each one live maybe once or twice at that point. I imagine by the time I see them in Madison,Wi., the new stuff will really be tight! Don't worry- the live shows are still packed with that incredible heavy Warren guitar sound! I've seen many of my favorite guitar bands progress towards putting the emphasis on the song and the groove over the guitar parts. Los Lobos comes to mind. That brings up a question, perhaps for another thread- do you think they would have added a keyboard player even if Woody were still around? I personally think yes, because they were kind of leaning that way with Life Before Insanity. Give Deja Voodoo time to sink in with you, it is ANYTHING BUT LAME.......
A good example of the natural progression to ad a 4th member/keyboard player to a power trio is Grand Funk Railroad.

As much fun as power trios are to watch and listen to, over time, there's not much new ground to cover after a few albums of material. Adding keys opened up GFR to new horizens, and I'm sure there's a lot of that logic in the new version of the Mule.

 

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  posted on 10/23/2004 at 03:17 AM
I never bothered to check the AllMusic Guide. They gave it four stars and made it one of two Mule albums that are AMG picks. (The other is the The Deepest End; the debut album used to be their only pick.)

Gov't Mule's Déjà Voodoo is the record guitarist Warren Haynes and drummer Matt Abts have been looking to make for a long time. Since the death of Allen Woody in August 2000, after the landmark Life Before Insanity, the Mule has been making records with guest bass players, most of them jam-oriented albums in live settings. With the permanent addition of bassist Andy Hess and keyboardist Danny Louis, Gov't Mule takes a giant step forward while retaining the gritty, powerful blues-rock base that is the hallmark of the band's sound. Moving out form the power trio format is a solid thing. Haynes' songwriting is focused, anchored in the additional textures Louis' B-3 and Rhodes can provide, while losing none of its rootsy, overdriven charm. The tunes here, all 12 of them, are anchored in that gloriously greasy riffing that Haynes does better than anyone, but there is a wonderful funkiness added to the mix. There's the crunch and roll piledrive of "Bad Man Walking," opening the album with the Rhodes punching in the holes on opposite sides of the beat from the bassline. There's the squalling wah-wah blues of "Perfect Shelter," which sounds like it's coming across Stevie Wonder's version of "Superstition" and the ghost of Jimi Hendrix's "Machine Gun." On the shimmering organ glissando in "Little Toy Brain," a power ballad from rock antiquity that breathes fire, Haynes gives his best ever vocal performance on record. And so it goes. The balls-out barroom stomp of "Slackjaw Jezebel" — with one of the most dirty-assed basslines in recent memory — is tempered by the lonesome country-rock of the beautiful "Wine and Blood." The sheer raucous guitar wonking roar that is "Lola Leave Your Light On," one of the album's meltdown points, leaves the listener responding "Whoa..." like Keanu Reeves in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. Likewise, the switchblade six-string whomp of "My Separate Reality" is a bone-crusher that's full of raw whiskey soul as well. Déjà Voodoo is the album Gov't Mule's promised to make since its inception; this is a new chapter in the life of a truly inspiring rock & roll band. -Thom Jurek

 

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