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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 02:10 AM
Now, this may sound completely ridiculous and I hope it doesn't happen. I love the Allman Brothers Band, and this recent lineup really might be my favorite since Derek and Warren are both two of my favorite guitarists. Everything right now is perfect. However, I stumbled across an article about the Derek Trucks Band. The important part is this:

"With Trucks being the father of two young children (a 2 1/2-year-old and a 1-month old), he foresees having to cut back a little on his touring schedule.

'I'm not going to be on the road as much as I am now,' he said. 'I have a son now who's talking and knows what's going on. It's not really right to not be there.

'I have to cut back, whether it's doing less dates with both bands or just doing one of the two bands. But I can't see not doing this group.'"

Now, with Jack, who apparently has been involved with the Allmans (sorry I don't know much of their history between 1980 and 2000) having guested not only at the Fox but also tonight (I think I saw that on here), is it possible that Jack is going to become a full time member of the band replacing Derek? I would hate to see this, Derek's sound is so good, but as he said he can't see himself not doing the DTB (I don't blame him, they are tight). So what are people's thoughts? Sorry for making this so long, but this thought popped into my head and it kind of bothered me I might not see Derek in the Allmans for that much longer.

 
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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 03:48 AM
I dont have any bootlegs with Jack, and I only heard him once...back a few years ago on a "farm aid" broadcast I think...but from what I have heard periodically over the years from people who know what they are talking about, Jack Pearson can flat out get it done with the ABB. I would think that they wouldnt skip a beat with Jack.

The problem would be that I think Jack had to drop out because of health concerns, although I'm not sure about that. Maybe someone else can verify that.

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 04:08 AM
Who knows what happened, but Jack's health was at least an issue. He has tinnitus. He does also have his own music - he plays in a bunch of his own bands and I don't think he's going to give them up. He hasn't toured much in his years out of the band, either. (He was with them from June '97 until March '99.) I think he's an incredible guitar player.

His guest appearance at the Fox was just that. He was in town Friday because the Georgia Allman Brothers Band Association booked his band for a show the next day, so I don't think he's being groomed or introduced as a replacement for the guy who replaced him (Derek). Just for the record it's not the first time Jack has sat in with the Allmans - he usually guests when they play in or around Nashville. He lives in the area.

[Edited on 10/5/2004 by Marley]

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 05:48 AM
Interesting thread though...I read an interview w/him where he did speak about the end of the band itself, he said something like when they slow down or stop he'll just be with his own band and his path will be 'much more clear' , something like that.
 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 06:17 AM
I think the world of Jack. He could get the most out of Dickey. I have a quite a few shows from the Jack era. They are my favorite of all the Brothers, hands down... and Warren's my fav guitarist! Strange.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 07:13 AM
Derek could "cut back a little" on his touring schedule and still play over 100 shows a year. He seems to be enjoying playing with the Brothers more than ever, and I wouldn't read too much into the comment you quoted at the beginning of this thread.

As for Jack, the same reasons he left in the first place would most likely prevent him from ever seriously considering living on a bus for weeks at a time. He stays very busy around Nashville and hasn't done a long national tour since he left the ABB in 1999.

We all know the Allman Brothers Band can't last forever, but I feel pretty confident that the lineup we have now is the "final" lineup that the band will have. They will keep it rolling for as long as they can, and when that's over Derek and Warren will be able to focus on their bands.

 
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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 07:16 AM
Five more years.

40th anny. farewell.

Just my prediction.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 08:18 AM
When you think about a 40th anniversary of the ABB, you have to consider that the original members by then will be in their early 60's. I wonder how many of them already suffer from repetitive motion injuries? I'm not even a professional player, but I have carpal tunnel issues now, and I'm only 43!

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 08:54 AM
greetings:

In response to Dave's comment about repetitive motion. I used to be a metal drummer before I grew up and had some issues with tendonitus and the likes, but it was more from hitting the gym. Now that I've changed my approach to playing (no longer running and punching in place for hours straight) they've became a thing of the past. Lifestyle has more to do with how your body reacts functions than age (my experience) If you're not partyin' it up, throwin all kinds of crap in your body, exercising and eating sensible. Ya have a leg up. This lil music shop where I give lessons from time to time (teaching teenagers how to play Nirvana and Metallica)to intermediate students. There is a 60 year old dude who can play old slayer tunes.
Keeping on topic, Jack can play.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 09:35 AM
I can't say I know a whole lot of Jack, but if Derek needs to "cut back" I understand. I have two little girls and you can't get back what you miss out on. That goes for the kids as well, just having both parents around is important - seeing them daily, making them do their homework - it's all important. I'm glad he thinks about it that way.

That said, if Derek was going to cut back... I hope it will be from the Allmans. He is incredible with them - I just think he shines a little brighter in his own band. Maybe it's sort of a better outlet for his "style". He's not locked into certain expectations like he is with the allmans. I wouild miss him in the allmans - but they've given us 35 years of legacy already. The allmans broke ground with their genre when they started out - They mostly play the blues now (very well I might add) but, while great at jammin, there hasn't been any more "liz reeds" or "hot 'Lanta" (IMO only). I think Derek has some mold breaking left to do (quite a bit if were lucky).

I look forward to enjoying the Allmans until they call it quits - and will continue enjoying them afterwards. Hopefully if this happens, Jack will be a worthy replacement and we'll get one more album on par with hittin the note.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 09:53 AM
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They mostly play the blues now (very well I might add)


...and Jazz too I might add...and are jamming as well as ever. If we can get 5 more years from This band I would be happy...

Jack P, IMO will not be a part of The Brothers again. He doesn't want to travel and put his hearing at risk again I'm sure...Tinitus is a bitch. I'm sure if Derek had any plans to leave The ABB his Uncle and Warren and Gregg and...would convice him to do otherwise. Remember, Thats an awfully big payday to lose when you need it to raise the kids...

 
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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 10:37 AM
simple if derek goas,bring back dickey!and let him bring along dan!!now what a line up that would be.warren ,dickey,and dan-superb

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 10:53 AM
"I'm sure if Derek had any plans to leave The ABB his Uncle and Warren and Gregg and...would convice him to do otherwise. Remember, Thats an awfully big payday to lose when you need it to raise the kids..."

Don't think the above comment is necessairly true. I think at this point that with dTb (where Derek's musical heart truely lies) and his wife Susan with her talents (and I think once their kids get school age, she'll be back recording and touring) that could live quite comfortable without the income the ABB brings in. Also, I don't think income (although it's probably a nice one) would be a consideration for Derek to stay with the ABB. One name I haven't seen brought up is Jimmy Herring. The summer he toured with the ABB he did an excellent job, especially considering the circumstances of him being in the band. Also, listen to Jimmy and Warren's work with Phil & Friends and the Dead, and you realize he could step back in the ABB and it would a fine sounding verision of the band. The truth is, one of the strengths of the ABB over the years has been their ability to find excellent players who understand what the band is about. I'm sure if they had to do so again that they would be certainly be successful in doing so. Or then again, they might decide after 35+ years, that it's time to hang up their "rock and roll shoes", knowing that by and large they had a fine run, and even at the end they still kept all the qualities that made them the band that they are. If that's the case, all I would say would be "thank you for all the great music/performances that y'all gave over the years".

 
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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 12:07 PM
....and common sense says that the end to the Brothers will come naturally soon enough.
In the meantime, I believe it will be the focus. The DTB will be there as long as there is a Derek. I think Warren leaving is more likely. He's no spring chicken like Derek. I believe I saw fatigue in Derek Sat. night in Atlanta. Showed a bit in his playing, IMHO. Solos brilliant as always, not as tight on the ensemble stuff. As to future members, right now Jack, Jimmy Herring, and Rico Scott are ready to carry forward on short notice.

 
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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 12:13 PM
I can see the day when the band does a shortened Beacon Run and a short Fox run and that's it for the year! Maybe 1 or 2 more albums! (not counting live shows).

That would allow for the music to continue. Derek would have more time for the family and his own band!

[Edited on 10/5/2004 by Kreedham]

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 12:28 PM
if, and only if, derek is ever replaced, it would make most sense to bring back dickey. now i'm well aware that gregg and butch aren't exactly keen on him. and dickey isn't necessarily calling them on the weekends to go golfing. but as gregg says in come & go blues, "everything is finally cured by time."

but it would be the best way to end 40 years of live music. the dickey/warren years were the ones that revitalized the band and maybe that's the way it should end as well.

and can you imagine the wonderful "newness" dickey would bring to the set list. to hear the allman's play bluesky again would be magic.

okay, you can yell at me now.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 12:54 PM
Y'all are bummin' me out, talking like the Brothers have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel!

As the song says, "It ain't over. It ain't over YET."

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 02:11 PM
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(and I think once their kids get school age, she'll be back recording and touring) that could live quite comfortable without the income the ABB brings in.

I think Susan will be back sooner than that. She has had to put her career on the back burner some, but I'm pretty sure it's not going to be that long.

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As the song says, "It ain't over. It ain't over YET."

Well, we're all taking about things that haven't happened yet, but could.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 02:38 PM
The Tedeschi Trucks family can go fine without the check from the ABB. Susan's family is pretty rich.

Derek would stay with the DTB. He said it himself in the quote in the first post. If he did leave Herring would probably fill in. There's always me too (no kidding, truthfully it wouldn't be a bad choice). I think Warren would take a break before Derek. Then again, if one member takes a break, I bet all of 'em will.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 02:45 PM
Anything is possible and often things end without much advance warning. All the more reason to get out and see this awesome band as much as you can - don't keep putting off that trip to NY for a Beacon show (or 5) or a run up the mountain to Red Rocks. You will not regret going but may regret not.
 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 03:02 PM
yea, I really like the points that everyone is bringing up. I know that in a few years this band may no longer be here, hopefully it will be more than that, so I'm going to make sure to go home to NY over spring break for the Beacon run, something I wasn't sure I would be doing. I do think, after reading a bunch of these posts, that there is the possibility they could do the Beacon and the Fox and that's it for maybe ten more years. Then each of them could focus on their own stuff (Warren - Mule, Derek - kids and DTB, Gregg - rest and his own band) and still come together for maybe fifteen incredible shows per year. Here's to the Beacon 2005 and hopefully many more years.
 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 03:38 PM
....you guys are really jumping to conclusions here. I'm pretty sure the band is safe for the near future at least...all this other stuff is complete speculation. I think The ABB would be willing to do just about "anything" to to accommodate Derek and keep him happy so he can be with his family even if it meant cutting back the schedule a little bit more. They have already done that for Warren so he can keep up with his busy schedule for The Mule and The Dead. You guys have everyone past and present rejoining the band and creating all sorts of different lineups but the truth is we have a band here that will probably be together for a bit longer. Jimmy Herring ain't coming back, neither is Jack or even Dickey for that matter. THIS will be most likely be the last version of The ABB we'll see. I'm all for that... There is no proposed lineup that would be better than this one. Even with world-class players, chemistry takes time to really gel. Any changes would be a step backward.
 
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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 05:15 PM
As for Jack, did he damage his ear(s) with the ABB or did he have problems earlier?
And how bad are they? There's a big range, from minor nuisance background ringing to severely impaired.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 05:30 PM
Interesting subject. - I think Jack could probably tolerate the sound. And I certainly would love to see Jack back, if that were the way things were to go! - But Jack also wasn't crazy about touring, which is why he doesn't get around much with his own band. However, the ABB's tours are shorter as well!
 

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  posted on 10/5/2004 at 05:43 PM
I only saw Jack with the Brothers once before the Fox..but I must say , Jack Pearson is an incredible musician..in fact I love the way his wife plays the bass..very smooth, flowing basslines..Jack's band is red hot and I would reccomend them as a must see if they are aroud you...each musican , no matter what their skill level, changes the sound..

 

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