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  posted on 7/23/2002 at 08:50 AM
I have vaguely heard of the parrallelisms/connections between the movie Almost Famous and The ABB...do you have any more insight? What should I be looking for? Yes, I do mean YOU.
 
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  posted on 7/23/2002 at 12:17 PM
Here is just one cool thing: The kid has a poster on his bedroom wall of the band Stillwater .... check it out closely .... remind you of a certain band ?

 

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  posted on 7/23/2002 at 12:42 PM
Buy the Director's cut DVD. The deleted scenes are awesome and include several references to the Allman Brothers not included in the movie. The Allman Brother's legendary roadie, Red Dog is in the film (not the man himself, but a character based upon him). Cameron Crowe based the movie on his experiences touring with several bands in the 70s, but the Allman Brothers figure more heavily than any other. In one deleted scene, Red Dog appraoches the badn Stillwater, and announces that he and the Allman Brothers had a great party last night. "Brothers Gregg and Dickey send their love, man."
 
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  posted on 7/23/2002 at 02:06 PM
You know, I mentioned to someone I heard also that Cameron Crowe included some "references" to the ABB, as well as other bands popular during that time, when developing the band Stillwater for the movie. I was told that I was wrong, and in fact, there was actually a band called Stillwater that the band in the movie was supposed to be. ?????
Anyone hear anything about this?

 

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  posted on 7/23/2002 at 02:15 PM
Yep...had that talking Guitar song "Mindbender"

I hated it....still do..........

Some of their stuff was ok.......

Lost out when Capricorn went down hill.......


Formed in Georgia
Years Active
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1977 Stillwater Capricorn
1979 I Reserve the Right!

Don't know if the movie was actually about them.........
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  posted on 7/23/2002 at 02:40 PM
Thanks, Kenny!

 

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  posted on 7/23/2002 at 04:24 PM
hey musichick3...dickey touches on this subject in a RELIX interview december 2001. if you would like to read the article i'd be glad to send it to you.
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  posted on 7/23/2002 at 05:23 PM
I thought that a band named Stillwater had a female lead singer who was in a car accident. I also think they played at woodstock.
 
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  posted on 7/23/2002 at 05:40 PM
Interestingly, VH-1 made a movie about the real band Stillwater (who did play at Woodstock) some months before Almost Famous came out. I guess the name thing probably isn't a coincidence, but Crowe's Stillwater hasn't got anything else to do with the original.

 

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  posted on 7/24/2002 at 11:10 AM
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hey musichick3...dickey touches on this subject in a RELIX interview december 2001. if you would like to read the article i'd be glad to send it to you.
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  posted on 7/24/2002 at 11:23 AM
The actual band Stillwater has nothing to do with the band in the movie. The movie is based on Crowe's experiences with The Allman Brothers, Led Zeppelin, The Who, and others. I'm told that the scene in which the guitar player Russell freaks out on acid and condemns the kid writer is based loosely on an incident involving Gregg Allman and Cameron Crowe. Dickey Betts maintains that he kind of took Crowe under his wing in the same manner that Russell does in the film. I think the plane crash scene comes from Crowe's experiences with another band, but the entire movie weaves fact with fiction. Accompanying the Directors Cut DVD is a short piece of written commentary by Cameron Crowe in which he somewhat details the manner in which he based the film on his experiences with the Allman Brothers as well as a discussion of the genius of the Eat a Peach and Brothers and Sisters albums. The entire section of the plot revolving around the Rolling Stone cover article comes straight from the ABB and history. There is no debating this movie's relevance to ABB and rock n' roll history.
 
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  posted on 7/24/2002 at 12:27 PM
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hey musichick3...dickey touches on this subject in a RELIX interview december 2001. if you would like to read the article i'd be glad to send it to you.
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  posted on 7/24/2002 at 01:21 PM

The band with the chick singer was Sweetwater. They also had a black cello player. I saw them the summer of 1969 at the Miami Pop Festival and they were awesome -- I still listen to their album on occasion.

BTW, the first time I ever saw the Brothers was at a students-only concert for Georgia State University at the old Atlanta Municipal Auditorium in the fall of 1969. They were the opening act for ... Sweetwater.

Incidentally, I don't remember the date or even the month of this show and it does not appear in the live database here.

 

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  posted on 7/24/2002 at 02:26 PM
I just found an article about one of the members of the 'real' Stillwater, Rob Walker. He's a musician in the U.S. Airforce band. He said that he and the other members still get together once a year in Macon (where they were from) and do a reunion show there. He also mentioned that Cameron Crowe got permission from the lead singer to use the name Stillwater for the movie.

 

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  posted on 7/24/2002 at 02:35 PM
Yea, I was aware that they still occasionally perform. Is the Stillwater reunion synonymous with the "Slider's Ball" concert held in Macon, or are those two completely separate events?
 
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  posted on 7/24/2002 at 05:03 PM
I'm pretty sure the Sliders' Ball is something separate.
The plane crash incident in Almost Famous comes from a similar experience Crowe had with The Who.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2002 at 11:42 PM
Cameron Crowe made sure he did not name anybody . He still travels in the rock world circles due to his wife. So like most true Hollywood stories, the facts have been changed for our entertainment. Stillwater reminds me more of the Eagles with the Frey and Henley relationship. I was dissapointed with the movie overall..just me most likely..

 

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  posted on 8/2/2002 at 08:34 AM
Has Cameron Crowe ever addressed the inspiration for the movie in an interview or in writing?

My theory has been that the band, and the experiences, where a composite formed from several bands and artists.

For instance, the scene where the singer was telling the guitarist (something to the effect of) "you're the guitarist extraordinare, and I'm the mystical lyracist" made me think of Page/Plant. The scene where the guitarist was on the roof reminded me of Keith Moon. The near plane crash brought Skynard to mind.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2002 at 12:30 AM
What I've said above comes from interviews and the trivia page for the movie from the Internet Movie Database, located here: http://us.imdb.com/Trivia?0181875.
According to this and Crowe interviews, this Stillwater is based mostly adventures with The Eagles, though there are bits and pieces and incidents from a number of other bands (obviously including the ABB) . . . the plane crash is from an incident with The Who . . . the lines Rusty mentioned do sound sorta Zep-ish, and the scene he refers to (featuring the "I am a golden god" line) is attributed to Robert Plant. I guess you could say the general framework is from his life with the ABB, because he spent time on the road with them as a young kid. Many of the ABB references are explained on the page.

 

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  posted on 8/21/2002 at 06:25 PM
actually if im not mistaken i think that Hittin the note did an interview with cameron crow and he said it was abb who had the most foundness for and were the primary inspiration for the film however loose. and im sure it wasn't pure coincidence that the guy playing the part of russell is styled to look like dickeys twin
 

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  posted on 8/21/2002 at 08:21 PM
I'm sure that's not a coincidence, and I'm sure he's very fond of them. But I think that's the same interview I got the Eagles thing from. As I said, it was the ABB he toured with when he was that age. Most of the events or characters don't come from them, however.

 

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