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  posted on 7/13/2004 at 09:02 PM
What better way to get back at Clemens then to pull a Crash Davis in Bull Durham and tell each hitter in the top of the first, what the Rocket was tossing!!

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  posted on 7/13/2004 at 11:09 PM
Yeah, because the American League AllStars can't hit. They really need Piazza's help.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 01:20 AM
If someone beaned me and then threw a bat at me later in the year, and then I was forced to catch for the jerk in a somewhat meaningless game, I'd tell every batter which pitch was coming, the location of it, and smile each time the ball left the yard. From my perspective, Piazza pranked Rocket, sweetly. Nice 54.00 ERA!
 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 06:05 AM
Jason Schmidt probably should have been the starter. But there is no doubt that the media wanted Clemens/Piazza and they got their circus.

And MLB went out of their way to rump-kiss Clemens all-night long. I mean...was there really a reason to stop right in the middle of the game to give Clemens a meaningless award that most people probably didn't even know existed (and to perform an on-field interview to boot?)? Cmon, that's a joke. IMO, another bad job by major league baseball.

Bottom line - he got shelled.

Rumors going around that Clemens wants to be back with the Yanks. As a Yankee fan, I don't want him. Actually, I never did. Great pitcher, but he'll always be a Red Sox to me.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 08:06 AM
(Heavy sigh) ... professional sports.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 08:50 AM
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Rumors going around that Clemens wants to be back with the Yanks. As a Yankee fan, I don't want him. Actually, I never did. Great pitcher, but he'll always be a Red Sox to me.


Funny that you feel this way because most Sox fans that I know disowned him long ago (I used to feel that way but I've actually gotten over it). I highly doubt he end up back in New York or anywhere else for that matter (media hype), although it would be very interesting to see what would happen if he rejoined the Red Sox (not something I necessarily want to happen, but the storylines would be intriguing). I'll also be surpised if Randy Johnson goes anywhere (more media hype).

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 09:05 AM
Puhlease!! Tipping off the hitters my ass. If you noticed, Piazza gave about 3 different signs which Clemens waived off because he wanted to throw a slider inside, so Piazza gave him the slider inside and Manny took that thing way downtown. Face it, CLemens got shelled and it was through no fault of Piazza. Clemens was throwing meatballs down the sweet part of the plate to every hitter.
 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 09:35 AM
i think the Allstar game is a waste of time. i watched a few innings and realized "what the EFF is the point here?" and turned it off.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 09:45 AM
Linnie, the point is that it's fun to see all of that talent in a single game! Besides, it's a good tension breaker in the middle of a very long season! I thought that it was a blast to watch, especially seeing Clemens get shelled like that! Maybe he should change his nickname from Rocket to Rocked!

BTW, interesting suggestion about Piazza, but I'm not buying it! Clemens just plain didn't bring his A game and faced A++ hitters!

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 10:12 AM
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Puhlease!! Tipping off the hitters my ass. If you noticed, Piazza gave about 3 different signs which Clemens waived off because he wanted to throw a slider inside, so Piazza gave him the slider inside and Manny took that thing way downtown. Face it, CLemens got shelled and it was through no fault of Piazza. Clemens was throwing meatballs down the sweet part of the plate to every hitter.


If I'm catching and my pitcher (who I'm not fond of) shakes me off 3 times, I'm telling the hitter what's coming.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 10:14 AM
And that's why you aren't catching in the All Star game.
 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 10:18 AM
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Besides, it's a good tension breaker in the middle of a very long season


ok, great point!

so many times the phillies where in the toilet before the Allstar break and came back to have a good season. I'm curious to see what my team does now that they have had a good first half for a change.....

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 10:24 AM
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I'm curious to see what my team does now that they have had a good first half for a change.....


Step 1. Fire Larry Bowa.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 10:27 AM
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i think the Allstar game is a waste of time. i watched a few innings and realized "what the EFF is the point here?" and turned it off.


Linnie, the winner gets home field advantage for the World Series. A new twist implemented by MLB, so actually the game means something now. A very good idea, in my opinion. Peace, TR

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 10:33 AM
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i think the Allstar game is a waste of time. i watched a few innings and realized "what the EFF is the point here?" and turned it off.


Linnie, the winner gets home field advantage for the World Series. A new twist implemented by MLB, so actually the game means something now. A very good idea, in my opinion. Peace, TR


Okay, but I find one problem with the change.

Let's just say hypothetically that some team is in last place with no chance of getting to the World Series anyway. And let's just say some guy(s) playing for said team hates someone in his league just enough to try to prevent them from gettting to the World Series by playing poorly in the All-Star game. You know, throw a meatball up to the plate, strike out on purpose with the game on the line, etc. I mean, there have been a few brawls already this year (as every year) so there has to bad blood at times between league rivals. I think it's possible.

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 10:35 AM
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Linnie, the winner gets home field advantage for the World Series. A new twist implemented by MLB, so actually the game means something now. A very good idea, in my opinion. Peace, TR


hey, i didnt know that! i like that idea.

i see Lee's point though also. What, dishonesty in baseball? NEVER!!!

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 10:37 AM
I respectfully disagree with the format that says the winner gets home field advantage. It is the most ridiculous thing ever. This is essentially a scrimmage game and should have no bearing on the playoffs. What's the point in having the best record in baseball if you are not going to have homefield advantage? Correct me if I'm wrong, but did they not come up with this after they ended the game in a tie a few years back?
 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 10:40 AM
You are correct Jim. The VERY next year. The other thing to keep in mind is that ALL of the best players don't always get to go. The fans have a vote and they have that stupid rule that every team has to be represented. As a Detroit Tiger fan, do I really care that last year, on the second-worst team of all time, they had to pick an "All-Star", thereby depriving someone who really deserved to go?

I enjoy the game, but I agree that it is an exhibition.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 11:12 AM
Let's just say hypothetically that some team is in last place with no chance of getting to the World Series anyway. And let's just say some guy(s) playing for said team hates someone in his league just enough to try to prevent them from gettting to the World Series by playing poorly in the All-Star game.

How would the Allstar Game performance affect a team from getting into the World Series?

I respectfully disagree with the format that says the winner gets home field advantage. It is the most ridiculous thing ever. This is essentially a scrimmage game and should have no bearing on the playoffs. What's the point in having the best record in baseball if you are not going to have homefield advantage?

Having the best record in baseball does not mean that you get to play in the World Series....what if two wildcard teams faced off? Peace, TR

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 11:31 AM
i think the Allstar game is a waste of time. i watched a few innings and realized "what the EFF is the point here?" and turned it off.

I played baseball in a semipro league until i was 33...I love the game..but it was too produced adn that Clemens crap....c'mon.....hi...here are the lineups, here is the ball ,go play.....damm Fox

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 12:21 PM
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This was never (at least in my lifetime) used to determine home field advantge in the WS. While record determines home field in the first 2 rounds, in the WS it always alternated each year until they made it based on the All Star Game (I think this is the 2nd year it's been that way?). While I am loathe to give Bud Selig credit for anything that could be considered even remotely good, I must admit that I like the current set up better than just alternating each year.

 

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How would the Allstar Game performance affect a team from getting into the World Series?



It wouldn't. It would determine if they got home field in the World Series if they ever made it that far. At believe me, it's a big deal for the A.L. clubs, whose pitchers aren't used to batting.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 12:44 PM
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What better way to get back at Clemens then to pull a Crash Davis in Bull Durham and tell each hitter in the top of the first, what the Rocket was tossing!!

"Gee Manny. He shook off the heater. Here comes the slider."
"Gracias Mike"

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This is the funniest conspiracy theory I have ever heard LMFAO!!!!!

 

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  posted on 7/14/2004 at 12:45 PM
Lee,I understand the advantage to the AL in having homefeild advantage (as far as pitching goes),.....but when I quoted you, you said "And let's just say some guy(s) playing for said team hates someone in his league just enough to try to prevent them from gettting to the World Series by playing poorly in the All-Star game."........

I didn't think you were talkin' 'bout home field advantage,....I thought you were talkin' 'bout a team being prevented in getting into the World Series.
Peace, TR



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i think the Allstar game is a waste of time. i watched a few innings and realized "what the EFF is the point here?" and turned it off.


Linnie, the winner gets home field advantage for the World Series. A new twist implemented by MLB, so actually the game means something now. A very good idea, in my opinion. Peace, TR


Didn't help the Yankees last year. I doubt that it really means that much.


I think it makes a huge difference. AL teams are staffed based on the D.H. and as such, it can hurt when they're on the road and would lose a bat (think F.Thomas if the Chisox made it), and as I said, their pitchers (for the most part) aren't accustomed to batting. Did you watch the Cubs make the other night? Maddux pinch-hit because they needed a sacrifice. Sounds like an advantage to me. I just wish they'd play the game one way or the other. I'd prefer no D.H., but I'd much rather they just decide on the same rules.

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