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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 09:20 AM
I have always liked their music, but do not have much of their music on disc. Any advice on some good albums besides 'American Beauty' and "Working Man's Dead'

I love the ABB but am needing to get a few fresh disc's. Today's music just does nothing for me, with a few exceptions, and my collection could use some "new" fodder. Basically I am in kind of a musical slump, and my wife is getting tired of am talk radio

Thankfully, there will be some new Mule soon.

 
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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 09:28 AM
GD, like the ABB, are mainly a live band. So I would recomend two tremendous commercially released live albums:

"Live Dead" (recorded from the Fillmore West run in 1969)
"Europe 72"

Also keep your eye on the trading forum. There are plenty of fine folks here offer up plenty of live GD.


 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 09:41 AM
hae you tried the Jerry Garcia Band (JGB) There are are some really good albums out,
some releases I highly recommend are "How Sweet It Is" with select recordings
from the Warfield during the early 90's. the album was so well put together it sounds like one continuous show. A new release from the Garcia/Grisman vault is "Been All Around This World" with some real sweet bluegrass renditions of " Ill Go Crazy" (James Brown), Take Me, Sitting here in Limbo, I'm Troubled and Blue Yodel #9. As far as GD hmmmmm
maybe Blues for Allah or Reckoning (acoustic)?

 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 09:44 AM
Workingman's Dead & American Beauty and any Dick's Picks.
 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 09:54 AM
Thanks for the quick reply's.
 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 10:04 AM
why get a commercial release?

get some live shows...

hot years to get:

'69
'72-'74
'77
'91

they're free, and there's TONS to get
go live!


 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 10:11 AM
If you want a studio - you have to have Shakedown St. in your collection.

If you want a live GD show - check out, I think it's - 5-7 & 5-8-77 or 4-26-83

Someone suggested JGB - GREAT SUGGESTION!!!!!!! I'm listening to 1-27-76 JGB right now - PM me your address Buckeye and I will send you this show..


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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 10:15 AM
I second the suggestion of "Europe '72"! Everyone has their own favorite periods of the band, but I love that time period of the GD.

"Europe '72" has what I would call the "reference versions" of so many of their classic tunes (such as One More Saturday Night, Jack Straw, China Cat>Rider, Brown-Eyed Woman, Tennessee Jed, and Morning Dew), in my opinion.

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 10:23 AM
lots of excellent music created in europe in 72
but get a few complete shows, plus they are free
the commercial releases simply don't flow

 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 10:30 AM
My fav's are Live Dead....Skull & Roses....Europe 72.....

 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 12:38 PM
if you have am. beauty and workingman's, then get wake of the flood. i always thought that these three albums flowed together, save for the keith and donna tune on wake...

so many roads is a great taste of any era dead, a great collection of live and studio non-releases.

dix pick #10 and the one from englishtown just for the smoking version of not fade away

the 72' commercial releases were good because even though pigpen was sick he was putting out some very good music, mr.charlie, chinatown shuffle, it hurts me too, and two souls in communion.

dozin at the knick is pretty good because of the brent tunes, never trust a woman and blown away show a man that was a real tourtured soul...

 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 12:46 PM
If you like the acoustic nature of American Beauty and Working Man's, get Reckoning.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 12:47 PM
You should pick up "One From the Vault". After the band finished Blues for Allah they befored the album live in San Francisco. This was the first live performance of Help On The Way>Slipkno>Franklin's Tower. This is an incredible show!!
 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 01:08 PM
Tons of good advice here.

I would add that Terrapin Station, Blues for Allah, Shakedown Street, and even Go to Heaven are all pretty good records, save for a few holes in each. In the Dark is fine.

But everyone is right about exploring their live side. The GD did tons of covers and most are only found on certain live performances. It is also fun to aurally track their transitions as a live band, for example Dick's Picks #16 (Fillmore 11/8/69) is a fascinating snapshot of the Dead morphing from a blues/acid rock band to the country/blues sound that would be featured on Workingman's. Of course the Dead never totally jettisoned any of their styles which resulted in one of the most unique groups ever.

Have fun!

[Edited on 7/10/2004 by KnownRider]

 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 01:43 PM
How exactly does the trading work. I feel kind of guilty getting music for free. The musicians should get something for their work, but I guess if they encourage taping.... if they don't mind why should I.

Obviously, I currently have nothing to share

 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 02:01 PM
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How exactly does the trading work. I feel kind of guilty getting music for free. The musicians should get something for their work, but I guess if they encourage taping.... if they don't mind why should I.

Obviously, I currently have nothing to share


get ready!!!! Someone with more experience in taping/ burning and B& P's help me out here...

I can burn you a copy of the show I mentioned and send it to you..

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 02:55 PM
What about the 4 CD concert from the Fillmore East? What do you all think of that one?

I've been thinking of getting it.

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 02:56 PM
Here is 3 MUST HAVE gems from The Garcia solo collection...GREAT stuff! Highly recommended...

Garcia
Jerry Garcia
Initial release : January 1972

Tracks
Deal (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter)
Bird Song (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter)
Sugaree (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter)
Loser (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter)
Late For Supper (Jerry Garcia)
Spidergawd (Jerry Garcia / Bill Kreutzmann / Robert Hunter)
Eep Hour (Jerry Garcia / Bill Kreutzmann)
To Lay Me Down (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter)
An Odd Little Place (Jerry Garcia / Bill Kreutzmann)
The Wheel (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter / Bill Kreutzmann




Garcia (Compliments of Garcia)
Jerry Garcia
Initial release : June 1974


Tracks

Let It Rock (Chuck Berry)
When The Hunter Gets Captured By The Game (William Robinson)
That's What Love Will Make You Do (Henderson Thigpen / James Banks / Eddy Marion)
Russian Lullaby (Irving Berlin)
Turn On The Bright Lights (Albert Washington)
He Ain't Give You None (Van Morrison)
What Goes Around (Mac Rebbenack)
Let's Spend The Night Together (Mick Jagger / Keith Richard)
Mississippi Moon (Peter Rowan)
Midnight Town (John Kahn / Robert Hunter)





Reflections
Jerry Garcia
Initial release : February 1976

Garcia's third solo album and his last to be credited to him alone rather than the Jerry Garcia Band. Includes five songs that were performed by the Grateful Dead. All of the 1976 members of the Grateful Dead contribute to the music on this LP.


Tracks

Might As Well (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter)
Mission In The Rain (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter)
They Love Each Other (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter)
I'll Take A Melody (Allen Toussaint)
It Must Have Been The Roses (Robert Hunter)
Tore Up Over You (Hank Ballard)
Catfish John (Bob McDill / Allen Reynolds)
Comes A Time (Jerry Garcia / Robert Hunter)




 
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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 05:10 PM
I really like the late 80's early 90's stuff.

I think you'd really enjoy "Without A Net" and "Dozin; At The Knick" also really like "Nightfall of Diamonds".

Started listening to the Dead for exactly the reason you said. Now have probably 30 releases including several of "Dick's Picks" and all the "View From The Vaults". There are a lot or really really good recording that circulate pretty easily.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 09:34 PM
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What about the 4 CD concert from the Fillmore East? What do you all think of that one?

I've been thinking of getting it.

"D"


If you mean 'Ladies and Gentlemen... The Grateful Dead" , run out and buy/steal it now

No, dont steal it. Im kidding


Oh, and Buckeye, if you want some 71 Dead, lemme know.

 

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  posted on 7/10/2004 at 11:55 PM
I agree . The Fillmore set is great. Also pick up the new release from 1972. Rockin' The Rhein With The Grateful Dead. This is a great, great show. Uncle Jerry is definitely on the edge for this show. My favorite period for the band was 1970-1972. They rocked during that period.

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  posted on 7/11/2004 at 12:22 AM
If you like the Dick's Picks - you can't go wrong with Dick's Picks 1.





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  posted on 7/11/2004 at 12:35 AM
You know, I have been keeping an eye on setlists for The Dead this summer. They have REALLY been stretching and reaching. They are not only playing a fair amount of obscure covers - they are REALLY reaching deep into the history of live GD.


And I am LOVING it!


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  posted on 7/11/2004 at 02:24 AM
Hey Buckeye. Some fine suggestions from our forum here. Here's something to think about also, check out www.nugs.net . They have availabe a large (about 50 GD shows, and over 100 more from other jam bands) streaming archive where you can check out nearly every era of the Dead. Then from there decide what you like and go from there.
Personally, I try to stay away from the Donna era (1971-79) although I have about 50-60 shows from this timeframe. While most of the playing is spectactular, Donna's vocals are just horrendous! Somehow, this was considered the sweetest of times for many Dead Heads.
Anyway, my personal favs: May 08, 1977 from Cornell Univ. as mentioned by someone earlier is great ; June 16, 1974 from Des Moines, Iowa has some killer playing if you can get past some annoying Donna ; Oct. 31, 1970 Dicks Picks vol.2 from Columbus, Oh. has some blistering playing ; May 02, 1970 Dicks Picks vol.8 from Harpur College is special for me because my parents were at the show and I went to school there 20 yrs later, but is rocks nevertheless ; I also enjoy the stuff from 1983 and 1988 ; and then as for post-Grateful Dead, I really enjoy the SPAC,NY. show from June 20, 2003 that included Joan Osbourne who simply blows away anything Donna could ever have dreamed of doing, very good playing and song selection including a great Dear Mr. Fantasy with "our old pal Steve" Winwood. ("Hi Steve").

Hope this helps.

By the way, I hope that it's OK that I suggested the Nugs website. I'm not sure if that's frowned upon or not, so forgive me if I've broken any rules. I plead ignorance and beg forgiveness from the gods.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2004 at 06:14 AM
Thanks everyone!

I always planned on going to see the Dead (with Jerry) but something always came up (work, school etc.). They always performed at Legend Valley, just east of Columbus. Supposedly one of their favorite venues. It was a large outdoor facility where you could camp and party for a few days before a show. They don't have many shows there now, and it is sad. Now the ampetheaters all have cops in the parking lots, and don't allow you to 'hang out'. I always enjoyed the pre-show and meeting people as much as the show itself.

Anyway, one of the true regrets of my life was not seeing them live. Now whenever one of the legends come around I always make an effort to see them (BB King etc). You never know when a person is going to pass on...

 
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