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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 03:11 AM
I was just meandering around in a "Atlanta Pop Festival" site that came up in a google search, and i came upon THIS...

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"Twenty-five years later, Hendrix and Duane Allman are rock history deities. The company hired to document the festival went bankrupt a week later; and the film remains in a vault somewhere in Philadelphia. The Byron music scene came - and went."


*here is the link...http://www.me.umn.edu/~kgeisler/700704.html

Does anyone know if anyone is trying to get that film released?

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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 09:14 AM
Wow, I never knew there was Atlanta Pop footage. That's very cool.
 

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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 09:41 AM
I knew there was footage of the Atlanta Pop Festival, but I didin't think there was any footage of the ABB there.

 

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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 02:15 PM
Atlanta Pop was originally going to be a Woodstock-like project with a feature film and soundtrack album, the whole nine yards. Every single act at Atlanta Pop was filmed and recorded on multi-track, including the Allman Brothers. This is one of the reasons the Atlanta Pop Cd set has such good sound quality compared to other early recordings.

However, the film rights are tied up in the usual legal mumbo-jumbo, as far as I know. Whether any of it will ever see the light of day is anybody's guess at this point.

 
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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 07:14 PM
Rob-
Live & hope.....who owns the film rights?

 

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  posted on 5/28/2004 at 01:54 AM
You see, this is the kind of stuff that just drives me crazy.

You would think that right now would be the time for whoever owns the rights to this stuff to put it out. So called "Classic Rock" is hot right now. There are "oldies" stations everywhere now playing 60's and 70's music. Those of us you are very interested in this period are at our "peak" buying period right now. Most of us have decent incomes and we will fork over the bucks for this stuff. Yet...these bozos are just sitting on it.

Its just like the Allmans "Don Kirshners Rock Concert" appearance in 1972. I have a copy of "Whipping Post" that someone dubbed from some other tape a long time ago. I have heard of people who have seen the Ramblin Man from that show. You know that all of the masters from that show...the ABB and many others of interest...are just sitting somewhere gathering dust. Well, there are thousands of us who will part with 25 or so bucks in a heartbeat to get a video of that program. Yet...they just sit.

Hopefully eventually someone will do whatever is necesarry to get this kind of stuff out.

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  posted on 5/30/2004 at 03:36 PM
yup.......i agree....i imagine their must be the owner(s) of the film, an owner of the performance rights, another owner of the publishning rights, lawyers for all.....
and allmans, estates, and dickey and more.......but it ain't easy.....
and no doubt all of the owners that have to put up any $$$ obviously feel they need a return on their investment....



[Edited on 5/30/2004 by PeachNutt]

[Edited on 12/7/2004 by PeachNutt]

 

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  posted on 6/19/2004 at 05:49 AM
Please check out my post "ABB Live Video" for one possible solution.
 

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  posted on 11/26/2004 at 03:42 AM
I've recently read a message on Planet Dobro, and was so interesting.
Message is as follows.

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Posted: 10/29/04 03:12:47 PM
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Hey Jack, BGP no longer owns the footage. I was told that Clear Channel bought the entire Bill Graham Archives, so I'm not holding my breath that the video will be commercially available anytime soon. I was told however, that a full blown documentary on the Allmans, if ever produced, would be the preferred place to feature the video. If thatís not enough to wait for, I also discovered that the Allman Brothers, Atlanta Pop Festival 1970 footage does exist, is in good shape and has been edited to a rough cut. The film is in privately owned. I did not get a detailed description of the film, but I was told that Duane is clearly featured, and the film is superior to the Love Valley footage.
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Any further information??

 

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  posted on 11/26/2004 at 09:32 AM
quote:
BGP no longer owns the footage. I was told that Clear Channel bought the entire Bill Graham Archives, so I'm not holding my breath that the video will be commercially available anytime soon. I was told however, that a full blown documentary on the Allmans, if ever produced, would be the preferred place to feature the video. If thatís not enough to wait for, I also discovered that the Allman Brothers, Atlanta Pop Festival 1970 footage does exist, is in good shape and has been edited to a rough cut. The film is privately owned. I did not get a detailed description of the film, but I was told that Duane is clearly featured, and the film is superior to the Love Valley footage.
Any further information??


That sounds great. If it ever happens, I would love to have a DVD of the Allmans at Atlanta Pop Fest. 1970. It wouldn't take a lot for footage to be superior to the Love Valley video. The Bill Graham footage mentioned first must be the ABB at the Fillmore East in Sept. 1970?

 

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  posted on 11/26/2004 at 02:44 PM
Well mabey someone should talk to Butch about trying to get a documentary out that would focus mainly on Duane creating the ABB, much video footage from the 1970 shows and interviews with Dickey, Gregg, Butch and Jaimoe. I think the ABB doc. would be focused between 1969-1973, when Brothers and Sisters was released, and branch out to what Dickey was doing with Highway Call and other stuff. Many pictures through out, like the Duane and Dickey picture with Dickey playing slide in the hotel room and stuff.
 

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  posted on 11/28/2004 at 04:37 AM
These clowns who are sitting on this footage think they have an unlimited time frame and can put it out when they're good and well ready. Well, I got news for them. Most of us who remember the Duane era are now in our 50's and the longer they wait, the less likely our urgency. I don't know. Will I still be listening to the Brothers when I'm gumming my mashed potatoes in another 20 years?
Hell, some of us won't even be around anymore. Sad but true.
So, go on, foolish lawyers and greedy bastards. Look at what happened with Festival Express. That took 34 years to see the light of day and barely registered a whimper on the sales charts.
Sorry, but its hard to see their point of view. They've had more than enough time to sort this all out. 34 years. No wonder there are bootleggers.

 

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  posted on 11/29/2004 at 11:58 AM
You couldn't be righter sekander -- the longer the clowns sit on this stuff, the faster people will lose interest in it -- the Festival Express film is a good example, as is the Stones' Rock n Roll Circus which didn't come out for a long time, then when unnoticed when it finally did.
Nothing but greed -- misguided fools thinking they're going to make a big pile of money, when all they're really doing is pissing people off. Good post.

 

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  posted on 11/30/2004 at 02:28 AM
Good point, Stephen, I was going to mention the Stones R&R Circus, too, but forgot.
I think that one sold 3 copies at my local Tower. C'mon. How many of your boomer friends still are into it?! I'm even wonderin' if the Duane material would sell as much as the newer ABB videos. How many of the newer generation of fans would buy it? They might think its too old. I'm reminded of the old line from the 80's about Paul McCartney. A guy mentions the Beatles to some young chick and she goes, "Oh, yeah, weren't they Paul's band before Wings?"

 

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  posted on 12/1/2004 at 06:41 AM
Hendrix's set was shown on a British satilite channel a few years ago. I did raise the question of the brothers appearence but little was known of any footage. Like a lot of things they probley exist in some dark locked away corne, waiting for some litigation to be completed.
 
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  posted on 12/1/2004 at 08:50 AM
sekander03 wrote:
"Most of us who remember the Duane era are now in our 50's and the longer they wait, the less likely our urgency. I don't know. Will I still be listening to the Brothers when I'm gumming my mashed potatoes in another 20 years?"

wellllllll, I plan to listen to Duane till I can't push the play button anymore....and if I plan it right, maybe after my ashes are strewn in San Diego Bay.

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  posted on 12/5/2004 at 03:24 PM
FWIW:

http://www.historicfilms.com/news_articles/archivezone_fall_2002.html

I tried to research their database but it was unusable. Problem is these folks don't seem the type to be putting out a documentary.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2004 at 08:38 PM
I saw the ABB on 'In Concert' on ABC-TV. I saw Santana w/John Mclaghlin and the best of them all was Focus. If you guitar heads want to hear one of the best guitarist that was under rated or just not heard much listen to Jan Akermann of Focus. The guy was doing what Al Dimeola did 10 years before Al. The guy is lighting fast and as clean as they get. I just wish more Focus was on Cd. I think I will do a quick search while I am thinking of it....
 

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  posted on 12/7/2004 at 12:40 PM
I think there is a market for this material. I believe that the most current ABB/Beacon DVD sold to at least "Gold" status which I think is pretty good for DVD Format.

Ideally, I would like to see a box set format which would showcase all of the various periods of this band. Good version's of the Filmore East & Atlanta POP Shows, Versions of the band from the 94 Woodstock / Rock & Roll Hall Induction / Austin City Limits / MTV Unplugged exist out there, put that together with some current stuff or include footage of DB & GS, DTB, Mule, Gregg & Friends, etc.. and I think you would have a good, strong visual record of one of the greatest bands of all time. Put it all out there on the line!


 

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  posted on 12/9/2004 at 04:47 PM
I really hope that early footage will surface and come out on dvd.
 

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  posted on 12/10/2004 at 08:39 PM
and hopefully within our life time.....LOL......
 

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  posted on 12/10/2004 at 09:02 PM
One more reason to eat right and exercise.

 

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  posted on 12/12/2004 at 09:57 PM
LOL....
 

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  posted on 12/13/2004 at 10:33 AM
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...and the film remains in a vault somewhere in Philadelphia.


i'll check my dads safe but i'm not optimistic.....

perhaps the next time i tour the Franklin Mint i'll find it there.

 

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  posted on 12/13/2004 at 01:08 PM
Put Hophead on it! He seems to have a golden touch, so maybe he can get someone off their hands and get them to release the APF70 footage in DVD form. I'd buy it!!

 

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