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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 08:21 AM
Is anyone here surprised about this development:


Clear Channel Limits Live CDs

Company to block bands from selling instant albums



In the past few years, fans leaving some concerts have discovered a souvenir far better than a T-shirt: a live recording of the show they just attended. Bands including the Allman Brothers, moe. and Billy Idol have sold instant concert discs, and the Pixies and the Doors plan to launch similar programs this summer. The recording-and-burning company DiscLive estimated on April 12th that it would gross $500,000 selling live discs this spring alone.
But in a move expected to severely limit the industry, Clear Channel Entertainment has bought the patent from the technology's inventors and now claims to own the exclusive right to sell concert CDs after shows. The company, which is the biggest concert promoter in the world, says the patent covers its 130 venues along with every other venue in the country.

"We want to be artist-friendly," says Steve Simon, a Clear Channel executive vice president and the director of Instant Live. "But it is a business, and it's not going to be 'we have the patent, now everybody can use it for free.'"

Artists net about ten dollars for every twenty- to twenty-five-dollar concert CD that's sold, no matter which company they use. But with Clear Channel pushing to eliminate competition, many fear there will be less money and fewer opportunities to sell live discs. "It's one more step toward massive control and consolidation of Clear Channel's corporate agenda," says String Cheese Incident manager Mike Luba, who feuded with Clear Channel last year after promoters blocked the band from using CD-burning equipment.

The Pixies, who are booking a fall reunion tour with several probable Clear Channel venues, say Clear Channel has already told them DiscLive can't burn and sell CDs on-site. "Presuming Clear Channel's service and product are of equal quality, it may be best to feed the dragon rather than draw swords," says Pixies manager Ken Goes. "Still, I'm not fond of doing business with my arm twisted behind my back."

Clear Channel doesn't plan to stop Phish, Pearl Jam, the Who or other bands that make live recordings available days after the show. It has also granted one-dollar licenses to a few up-and-coming bands to record and sell instant CDs of their own shows. But Clear Channel executives maintain that they have the right to stop anyone who tries to infringe on the patent. Many say this strategy prevents inventors from jumping into a marketplace and creating further innovation. "We'd like to see this industry opened up to everybody," says Erik Stubblebine, founder and vice president of Hyburn, a Phoenix company that has sold instant CDs for dozens of concerts in the past three years. "They're trying to squeeze us."



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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 08:25 AM
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Is anyone here surprised about this development:


Clear Channel Limits Live CDs

Company to block bands from selling instant albums



In the past few years, fans leaving some concerts have discovered a souvenir far better than a T-shirt: a live recording of the show they just attended. Bands including the Allman Brothers, moe. and Billy Idol have sold instant concert discs, and the Pixies and the Doors plan to launch similar programs this summer. The recording-and-burning company DiscLive estimated on April 12th that it would gross $500,000 selling live discs this spring alone.
But in a move expected to severely limit the industry, Clear Channel Entertainment has bought the patent from the technology's inventors and now claims to own the exclusive right to sell concert CDs after shows. The company, which is the biggest concert promoter in the world, says the patent covers its 130 venues along with every other venue in the country.

"We want to be artist-friendly," says Steve Simon, a Clear Channel executive vice president and the director of Instant Live. "But it is a business, and it's not going to be 'we have the patent, now everybody can use it for free.'"

Artists net about ten dollars for every twenty- to twenty-five-dollar concert CD that's sold, no matter which company they use. But with Clear Channel pushing to eliminate competition, many fear there will be less money and fewer opportunities to sell live discs. "It's one more step toward massive control and consolidation of Clear Channel's corporate agenda," says String Cheese Incident manager Mike Luba, who feuded with Clear Channel last year after promoters blocked the band from using CD-burning equipment.

The Pixies, who are booking a fall reunion tour with several probable Clear Channel venues, say Clear Channel has already told them DiscLive can't burn and sell CDs on-site. "Presuming Clear Channel's service and product are of equal quality, it may be best to feed the dragon rather than draw swords," says Pixies manager Ken Goes. "Still, I'm not fond of doing business with my arm twisted behind my back."

Clear Channel doesn't plan to stop Phish, Pearl Jam, the Who or other bands that make live recordings available days after the show. It has also granted one-dollar licenses to a few up-and-coming bands to record and sell instant CDs of their own shows. But Clear Channel executives maintain that they have the right to stop anyone who tries to infringe on the patent. Many say this strategy prevents inventors from jumping into a marketplace and creating further innovation. "We'd like to see this industry opened up to everybody," says Erik Stubblebine, founder and vice president of Hyburn, a Phoenix company that has sold instant CDs for dozens of concerts in the past three years. "They're trying to squeeze us."



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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 08:37 AM
Aren't they one in the same?

 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 08:40 AM
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Aren't they one in the same?


They might as well be. They've pretty much ruined radio and now they wanna screw up live shows and merchandising as well.

 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 08:42 AM
GUERILLA WARFARE TIME!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 08:47 AM
Clear Channel is buying up concert venues left and right all over the US and entering into exclusive agreements with Ticketmaster. It really isn't going to be long before one company is going to be able to dictate what you hear on the radio, where you can see a band, how much it will cost to see that band, what you can buy there and how much that will cost as well. In fact, for the most part it's already happened. Plus they're in bed with a company that already dictates ticket pricing and availability and lays ridiculously high surcharges on every ticket it sells. If that isn't collusion and restriction of free trade I don't know what is. Want to lay odds that they'll be called on it by the FTC? I'd say you got a better chance of seeing The Beatles live.

 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 09:28 AM
This isn't an I told you so, but did we really not see this coming? If you look at the chronology of the issue it is easy to see where it is heading. Clear Channel hasn't been stopped from buying up the majority of the venues, Ticket Master hasn't been stopped from monopolizing ticket sales. This is all coming to a head, and guerilla warfare may not be too far from the truth in terms of what will be necessary to get this situation under control.

 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 10:44 PM
I agree with you all. Ditto from everybody!!!!!!
 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 11:27 PM
It's sad...
 

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 12:24 AM
How do you fight it?

I'm serious, shouldn't there be a problem with laws against monopolies?

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 02:28 AM
Doesn't it depend on who the monopoly in question are friends with...
 
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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 05:14 AM
I'm military so I'll be careful with what I say, but the good ol' boys networking is one of the many problems with this current administration.

 

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 07:22 AM
The only thing that surprises me is the one dollar licenses.

Downright charitable for them.

Totaly out of charactor.

 

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 08:15 AM
They forgot to mention it was a dollar a minute......

 

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 11:42 AM
I knew there was a catch.

 

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 07:08 PM
Let your wallet do the talking. Don't buy Instant Live CD's until (unless) CC backs down.

I imagine CC will press the issue when negotiating for bands to play their arenas. I hope that groups out there will refuse to allow recording or even refuse to play the venues. Sorry for those of you that only have CC venues. If you're thinking about going to a show try not to or just go to fewer. Maybe they'll get the message.

 

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 07:38 PM

I imagine CC will press the issue when negotiating for bands to play their arenas. I hope that groups out there will refuse to allow recording or even refuse to play the venues. Sorry for those of you that only have CC venues. If you're thinking about going to a show try not to or just go to fewer. Maybe they'll get the message.


Its a shame because it so hard NOT to go to a Clear Channel venue these days.

 

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