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  posted on 5/24/2004 at 10:39 PM
Hey all,

I am extremely grateful to all the fine folks who have gotten me started with b&p's. I started to offer out shows to others but want to figure this one out before I do anymore.

I figured out the SHN conversion to WAV and copying from audio discs but when I copy them to disc through Windows Media Player I get breaks between songs. How do I eliminate the 2-second breaks in between songs on the completed disc? I know there must be a setting in WM but can't find it. Any help is much appreciated.

Is there better software for copying to disc (probably dumb question). I've heard about EAC but got an error when I tried to download. Will need to revisit when I have more time to work it out. Thanks...

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 06:48 AM
The breaks between songs is a setting in your burning program. You have the option to burn Disc at Once (DAO) or Track at Once (TAO)

ALWAYS Burn DAO, this eliminates the gaps between tracks. It will be a setting somewhere, depending on what program you use, but all programs have the option either way.

Thanks for asking about this question instead of trading TAO disks, everyone appreciates it. Also, if you have any other questions, feel free to PM me, I"ll answer.

 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 07:19 AM
Yea, check the "advanced" or "options" tab in you program..

 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 07:56 AM
In addition to what was suggested already, I would add that all encompassing programs like Windows Media Player and WinAmp are not the best apps for burning. You'll be much better off with one that is specifically designed for burning, like Nero, CDRWin, or, perhaps, E-Z CD Creator.

Just my opinion,

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 02:18 PM
I really liked E-Z CD Creator which I used before you all made me switch to EAC ( which I like as well).

Different subject but is there anyway to get EAC to NOT ignore the file names? With EZ Cd crator if you name the songs when you extract they are there when you burn. EAC always ignores the file names.

 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 10:42 PM
A couple of free cd burner programs:

MusicMatch Jukebox has a pretty functional burner program

http://www.deepburner.com/

and Nero is offering a free demo version of their software at nero.com. I like Nero for the .shn and .flac plugins for on the fly conversion of those files for burning.

Of course, if your burner is compatible with it, EAC has a very functional burner program.

 

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  posted on 5/25/2004 at 11:07 PM
Thanks for taking care of a rookie.

And thanks for the direction - I'll get what I need in place. Don't want to comtaminate the pool.

 

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 05:13 AM
It's not a response to your burning question, but just to get back to the subject of EAC - please persevere with getting this downloaded. As far as I am aware, it is the ONLY program out there that (if set up properly) will GUARANTEE a bit-perfect copy onto your hard drive of the CD in question.

Once the wav files are on your HD, you can burn them with whatever you want.

One last plug for EAC actually - if you've got two drives (a CD/DVD-Rom drive and a CDR burner), you can actually get EAC to do copy a disc in a single transaction, without the need to do extraction and burning in two separate stages; the amount of time this can save you on a trade is amazing!

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 08:18 AM
Hey Paul....I never knew you could do a single-step copy/burn with EAC using two drives. I'm going to send you a PM, hopefully you can give me some insight on the process to do this. This should help speed things up alot !!

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 08:35 AM
You can download I-TUNES for Windows for free from the MAC site. I used it with my MAC and loved it. The new version 4 is even better. You can keep a nice library of songs, easy to move songs around and organize, very user friendly.

Some of the new features include under Properties, you can set the gap between songs including 2 seconds or 0 (no gaps). You can also print generic cd covers with all the songs listed, or even just a song list. I'd recommend this to anyone wishing to start out or maybe switch. So far I haven't found anything negative about ITUNES

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 08:40 AM
Yeah Paul, how do you do that I use EAC and I don't see that as an option. I sure would love to know how to do that. Please post it here so we all can see it!

 

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 10:20 AM
Great EAC info, thanks Paul. And, I agree wholeheartedly with his suggestion to make the effort to get EAC downloaded and configured correctly.

Back to burning apps topic...

KCJimmy, not sure of your question. I thought I had an answer for you, but then I read it back over and got confused. Do you want keep them when you extract, and then when you burn too? If you want to assign on the extract, go to EAC>EAC Options, then to the Filename tab. On there, for each disc you extract you can assign a 'base' name and let EAC do the rest. For example, when I did the 3/20 Beacon show, I had this in there for disc 1: abb2004-03-20d1t%N. The %N will assign the track number. I then changed the 'd1' part to 'd2' and 'd3' for D2 & D3, respectively. Not sure if that helps, or if you knew that. If you're using EAC for burning and want to keep the names as 'CDText', which then can be read by some players, I'm not sure about that.

Regarding EZ CD-Creator for burning, I had migrated from it to CDRWin a few years ago and just never went back. I did use EZCD recently and a few times it randomly put a 2-sec gap b/t 2 of the 8-9 songs, even though I had DAO selected. Anyone else experience this?

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  posted on 5/26/2004 at 04:18 PM
Thanks for answering Jimmy's question Ron! That one has had me baffled too.

EAC = Exact Audio Copy. The name says it all. What a great service was done for the trading community by the guy who wrote this and made it freeware no less.

 

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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 09:23 AM
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One last plug for EAC actually - if you've got two drives (a CD/DVD-Rom drive and a CDR burner), you can actually get EAC to do copy a disc in a single transaction, without the need to do extraction and burning in two separate stages; the amount of time this can save you on a trade is amazing!


Tested this out, I don't usually use EAC for burning but to my ears it produced a perfect clone (ABB 1-17-71):

- Must have both drives defined to EAC
- Insert CD to be copied into "read only" drive
- Insert a blank into "write" drive
- Open up EAC
- Select your "read only" drive from pull down menu
- Go to Tools > Copy CD and select desired options (pretty basic stuff)

EAC creates the disc image and burns in one step. Error correction and other options appear to remain the same as with extraction only. There is an option to stop after extraction so EAC burn options can be modified. As I mentioned above I don't normally burn w/ EAC so I won't comment on that.

Total time for extraction was longer, probably due to the slow speed of the "read drive" on my very old PC. Burn time was approx. the same as w/ my usual EZ-CD method.

 

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One last plug for EAC actually - if you've got two drives (a CD/DVD-Rom drive and a CDR burner), you can actually get EAC to do copy a disc in a single transaction, without the need to do extraction and burning in two separate stages; the amount of time this can save you on a trade is amazing!


Sorry if this is a dumb question, but any idea how this scenario impacts how to configure offset settings, if at all? Thx.

 

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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 11:06 AM
Which copy of EAC should someone download? there seems to be several different versions.

 

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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 09:06 PM
Kid, download the latest release. You would only need to explore earlier versions if for some reason the latest one didn't work on your computer.

 

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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 10:54 PM
Muchos gracias amigo.....

 

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  posted on 5/27/2004 at 11:03 PM
Thanks for the info jcb, I've got to try that.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2004 at 04:59 AM
Thanks again, jcb. I didn't know I could do that, but it worked! Very easy. I wonder what else I don't know about this EAC.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2004 at 05:14 AM
What the heck is EAC??





























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  posted on 5/28/2004 at 05:21 AM
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  posted on 5/28/2004 at 08:10 PM
Doin great Barb!!

Will I see you and Bob in Teaneck??

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Well, solo anyway

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