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  posted on 12/20/2017 at 10:32 AM
Trump administration finds success in bringing home Americans detained abroad
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President Trump is well known for his brash and confrontational style of governing – but it could be the more diplomatic side of his administration generating some of the biggest victories in 2017.

Amid all the debate over issues like the travel ban, the border wall and health care, senior officials in the White House and State Department have quietly worked behind the scenes to resolve a major concern of the president: securing the release of American citizens detained by foreign governments and terror groups.

“Immediately after President Trump took office, he told Secretary [of State Rex] Tillerson to prioritize bringing home Americans who’ve been wrongfully detained or held hostage in foreign countries,” State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert told Fox News in an email. “We are proud that we’ve been able to secure the release of several Americans as a result of U.S. diplomatic efforts.”

While the administration has been successful in securing the release of numerous Americans held abroad, officials noted there are at least 10 other U.S. citizens – like Joshua Holt in Venezuela – who are being wrongly detained.

“The work, however, is not complete as we continue to press foreign governments for the release of other wrongly held U.S. citizens,” Nauert said.

From college students who ran afoul of the law abroad to a family held for years by a terror group, here is a look at some of the most prominent Americans freed from captivity in 2017.

Otto Warmbier: One of the most highly publicized cases was that of University of Virginia student

Otto Warmbier – it was also one of the most tragic, as he died shortly after his return.
The American student, who was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor in North Korea for allegedly attempting to steal a political banner from his Pyongyang hotel, was held by the North Korean government for more than a year.

After diplomatic talks between Washington and Pyongyang, Warmbier was medically evacuated from North Korea on June 13 in a state described as “unresponsive wakefulness.”

While there was no physical evidence he was beaten by his captors, doctors in the U.S. noted that Warmbier had suffered “extensive loss of brain tissue,” suggesting he had lost blood supply to his brain for a period of time. The North Koreans claimed Warmbier had suffered from botulism and then slipped into a coma after taking a sleeping pill, but U.S. doctors said that their examination showed no evidence of botulism, the strong neurotoxin produced by a bacterium. He died shortly after his return to the U.S. at the age of 22.

Caitlan Coleman and Joshua Boyle: Coleman and her Canadian husband, Boyle, were kidnapped in October 2012 by the Taliban-affiliated Haqqani network while on a backpacking trip that took them into Afghanistan. Held by the terror group for five years, the couple had three children while in captivity before being rescued as their captors attempted to move them across the border to Pakistan.

After getting the go-ahead from Trump, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Defense Secretary James Mattis, U.S. diplomats and military officials gave Pakistan an ultimatum: either they rescue the family or the U.S. would carry out the operation themselves. Pakistani forces eventually stopped a car suspected of carrying the family and found Coleman, Boyle and the children stuffed in the trunk.

Former CIA Sabrina De Sousa won a last-minute reprieve from extradition to Italy.

Sabrina De Sousa: The former CIA agent was set to be extradited from Portugal to Italy over the kidnapping of a Muslim cleric before an “extraordinary” effort by the Trump administration back in March won her a last-minute reprieve.

De Sousa was one of 26 people convicted in absentia for the 2003 abduction of radical Egyptian cleric Osama Mustapha Hassan Nasr, also known as Abu Omar. He was then transported for interrogation to his native Egypt, where he says he was tortured.

While the White House remained mum on its role in the affair, former Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., a spokesman for De Sousa, said officials within the Trump White House worked to block her extradition. "I can confirm that this wouldn't have happened without extraordinary help from the Trump administration," Hoekstra told Fox News.

Aya Hijazi in Egypt.

Aya Hijazi: Shortly after President Trump met with his Egyptian counterpart Abdel Fattah el-Sissi in April, the country released Egyptian-American charity worker Aya Hijazi from prison after nearly three years of detention. Hijazi and her husband had established a foundation to aid street children, but were arrested along with six others in 2014.

The White House again kept quiet about its role in Hijazi’s release – noting only that the case was on the agenda when Trump met with el-Sissi – but the president personally dispatched a U.S. government plane to Cairo to bring Hijazi and her husband back to the U.S. and personally met with her soon after she was acquitted in Egypt of charges of child abuse that were widely dismissed as bogus by human rights groups and U.S. officials.

UCLA Basketball Players: Trump personally took credit for the release of three UCLA basketball players held in China for shoplifting after the president asked Chinese leader Xi Jinping to release them from custody.

The three players – LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill – were accused of stealing designer sunglasses from a Louis Vuitton store next to the team’s hotel in Hangzhou. UCLA was in China to play their season opener against Georgia Tech in Shanghai, which it won, 63-60.

“To the three UCLA basketball players I say: You’re welcome, go out and give a big Thank You to President Xi Jinping of China who made your release possible and, HAVE A GREAT LIFE!” Trump tweeted after the players had returned to the U.S. “Be careful, there are many pitfalls on the long and winding road of life!”

The successful release eventually gave way to a feud between Trump and one player's father whom Trump accused of being "ungrateful."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/20/trump-administration-finds-succe ss-in-bringing-home-americans-detained-abroad.html



 
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  posted on 12/20/2017 at 11:30 AM
And? Let me guess, you won something? Good boy!

[Edited on 12/20/2017 by BoytonBrother]

 

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  posted on 12/20/2017 at 11:47 AM
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And? Let me guess, you won something? Good boy!

[Edited on 12/20/2017 by BoytonBrother]



Obviously you are incapable of understanding that Americans have been brought home.
Another major diplomatic win for President Trump and The American People.

 

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  posted on 12/20/2017 at 11:53 AM
Yay!! Woo hoo!!!!!!!
 

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  posted on 12/21/2017 at 08:18 AM
Good.

As a refresher, what are some of the wins? "another major diplomatic win", off the top of your head can you bring me up to speed on those.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 08:49 PM
An incomplete list:

The economy has taken an unprecedented move towards the better.
GDP is moving upwards. Most are forecasting close to 4% growth in 2018.
New jobs are increasing monthly.
Manufacturing jobs are returning to the country for the first time in thirty years.
The bleeding of corporations leaving the country has stopped.
Corporations have begun to reinvest in American factories and interests.
Trade deals are being renegotiated to our economic benefit.
The first major tax cut legislation in thirty years was just signed into law.
Massive amounts of regulation have been cut, spurring business optimism.
Consumer optimism is higher than in the past two decades.
The coal industry in our country has been revived.
Pipelines for oil have been released for construction completion.
We have expanded oil drilling, even in ANWAR.
We are virtually energy independent as a nation.
Our energy businesses have become exporters.
Our stock market is through the roof, up 30%, new highs almost daily.
Business optimism has not been higher. Atlas stopped shrugging.
The horrid Obamacare individual mandate was torpedoed.
Justice Neal Gorsuch was voted to the Supreme Court.
Trump appointed more judges in his first year than any other President.
He is remaking the judiciary in a conservative image as he promised.
He has slowed illegal immigration to a level not seen in thirty years.
He is destroying MS 13, and other illegal immigrant gangs.
He is speaking openly of ending chain immigration.
He has successfully gone after ISIS, virtually driving them into the ground.
He has acknowledged Jerusalem as the Capitol of Israel.
He has reset our alliance with Israel.
He is quietly helping to remake a Middle East that is a bulwark against Iran.
He has quietly reset our alliance with the new leaders of Saudi Arabia.
He is quietly reversing the horrible Iranian deal left us by Obama.
He has been the first President to stand against the insanity of North Korea.
He has connected with the Chinese leadership, enlisting them as allies.
He has pulled out of TPP, beginning negotiation on a better deal.
He is renegotiating NAFTA.
He has pulled us out of the ridiculous and harmful Paris Climate Accord.
He has begun to dismantle the corruption of climate data by our bureaucracies.
He has reset an agenda for space exploration by NASA.
He has brought hope to the mission of our military.
He has worked and enacted better care and treatment for our Veterans.
He is redefining our mission in national security with his speech last week.
He has put the United Nations on notice for their arrogant nonsense.
He has and is exposing the national media for the leftist activism base it is.
He has fought the self-tarnished media more effectively than any other.
He has exposed the Democratic Party as corrupt, issueless, and powerless.
He has exposed the fecklessness, and fraud of the GOP.
He is quietly remaking the GOP from their own ashes.
He has exposed the deep state to public view. And is just beginning.
He is exposing the corruption of our bureaucracies by the Obama administration.
He is exposing the insanity of the hard left, and their utter lack of decency.
He has driven mad the constituency of #nevertrumpers on the right. Exposed.
Last mentioned: he has earned the unity and praise of the elected GOP. Which has been well deserved. This is one we on the right should all applaud.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/12/trumps_momentous_first_year .html#ixzz53GqLAn5I

Billastro

 

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 11:13 PM
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An incomplete list:

The economy has taken an unprecedented move towards the better.
GDP is moving upwards. Most are forecasting close to 4% growth in 2018.
New jobs are increasing monthly.
Manufacturing jobs are returning to the country for the first time in thirty years.
The bleeding of corporations leaving the country has stopped.
Corporations have begun to reinvest in American factories and interests.
Trade deals are being renegotiated to our economic benefit.
The first major tax cut legislation in thirty years was just signed into law.
Massive amounts of regulation have been cut, spurring business optimism.
Consumer optimism is higher than in the past two decades.
The coal industry in our country has been revived.
Pipelines for oil have been released for construction completion.
We have expanded oil drilling, even in ANWAR.
We are virtually energy independent as a nation.
Our energy businesses have become exporters.
Our stock market is through the roof, up 30%, new highs almost daily.
Business optimism has not been higher. Atlas stopped shrugging.
The horrid Obamacare individual mandate was torpedoed.
Justice Neal Gorsuch was voted to the Supreme Court.
Trump appointed more judges in his first year than any other President.
He is remaking the judiciary in a conservative image as he promised.
He has slowed illegal immigration to a level not seen in thirty years.
He is destroying MS 13, and other illegal immigrant gangs.
He is speaking openly of ending chain immigration.
He has successfully gone after ISIS, virtually driving them into the ground.
He has acknowledged Jerusalem as the Capitol of Israel.
He has reset our alliance with Israel.
He is quietly helping to remake a Middle East that is a bulwark against Iran.
He has quietly reset our alliance with the new leaders of Saudi Arabia.
He is quietly reversing the horrible Iranian deal left us by Obama.
He has been the first President to stand against the insanity of North Korea.
He has connected with the Chinese leadership, enlisting them as allies.
He has pulled out of TPP, beginning negotiation on a better deal.
He is renegotiating NAFTA.
He has pulled us out of the ridiculous and harmful Paris Climate Accord.
He has begun to dismantle the corruption of climate data by our bureaucracies.
He has reset an agenda for space exploration by NASA.
He has brought hope to the mission of our military.
He has worked and enacted better care and treatment for our Veterans.
He is redefining our mission in national security with his speech last week.
He has put the United Nations on notice for their arrogant nonsense.
He has and is exposing the national media for the leftist activism base it is.
He has fought the self-tarnished media more effectively than any other.
He has exposed the Democratic Party as corrupt, issueless, and powerless.
He has exposed the fecklessness, and fraud of the GOP.
He is quietly remaking the GOP from their own ashes.
He has exposed the deep state to public view. And is just beginning.
He is exposing the corruption of our bureaucracies by the Obama administration.
He is exposing the insanity of the hard left, and their utter lack of decency.
He has driven mad the constituency of #nevertrumpers on the right. Exposed.
Last mentioned: he has earned the unity and praise of the elected GOP. Which has been well deserved. This is one we on the right should all applaud.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/12/trumps_momentous_first_year .html#ixzz53GqLAn5I

Billastro



A good many of those "accomplishments" are not any kind of accomplishment. Many others haven't occurred or occurred before Trump took office.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 11:36 PM
I know you are not the original posters so the exact sentiment can understandably get lost, but saying "major diplomatic win" and then providing a list like that doesn't exactly square if one thinks diplomatic wins relate to activities with foreign countries and success abroad. But there are a couple on there I think are valid in the middle there perhaps. This isn't a watershed area of success for the Trump Administration...and I'm one who will go to bat for them when I see fit....unless I'm still missing something. Muleman can surely fill me in?

Alot of things on that list are fairly subjective or in the process of development with outcomes unknown, so calling them a win is premature, but there are people better at calling these things out than me and I'll leave them to it.

 

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  posted on 1/5/2018 at 09:26 AM
When you have to tally a list of accomplishments to argue your point, you've already lost.
 

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Isn't it telling, these Facebook style lists of Trump's accomplishments cannot exist without so many embellishments.

There are a few facts contained within but for whatever reason conservatives respond to long lists of BS over a shorter list of drop dead truths.

Isn't it telling?

 

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Isn't it telling, these Facebook style lists of Trump's accomplishments cannot exist without so many embellishments.

There are a few facts contained within but for whatever reason conservatives respond to long lists of BS over a shorter list of drop dead truths.

Isn't it telling?


Your right, they are not accomplishments....it's called "Winning"!

 

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  posted on 1/5/2018 at 11:05 AM
If trump is so "great", and accomplished "soooo much", why is his approval rating so low?.
 

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  posted on 1/5/2018 at 11:41 AM
Someone should explain to pops why popularity polling is trash.

A good example would be the NYT's "poll" a few days before the election that said Hillary Clinton would win by 93%.

Do use small, simple words as pops does have a difficult time understanding adult words.


 

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Someone should explain to pops why popularity polling is trash.

A good example would be the NYT's "poll" a few days before the election that said Hillary Clinton would win by 93%.

Do use small, simple words as pops does have a difficult time understanding adult words.


Fact is: trump will never be as popular a president, and as successful as OBAMA. thats gotta kill a simpleton like YOU.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2018 at 10:20 AM
Trump deserves 'big credit' for sparking North Korea talks, South Korea's president says

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/10/trump-deserves-big-credit-for-sp arking-north-korea-talks-south-koreas-president-says.html

 

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Trump deserves 'big credit' for sparking North Korea talks


"talks", lol. Only Mule would consisder a name-calling tweet "talks" among foreign leaders. What a dope.






[Edited on 1/10/2018 by BoytonBrother]

 

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  posted on 1/10/2018 at 06:41 PM
Looks like the Chinese might stop buying our bonds - that will be a bigly win...........
 

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  posted on 1/10/2018 at 07:23 PM
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Looks like the Chinese might stop buying our bonds - that will be a bigly win...........


The 'bigly' word, used to always get a nice laugh out of that. Turns out he was saying 'big league', I think...maybe it actually is bigly. Reminds me of the sniglets book...anyone remember sniglets? Nice flashback!

China not buying our debt. Certainly presents a problem on a few levels. Part of me wants to say Good! - we shouldn't be so reliant on debt bought by foreign countries to finance our excessive expenses. Then there is the other part...

 

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  posted on 1/10/2018 at 07:29 PM
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Looks like the Chinese might stop buying our bonds - that will be a bigly win...........


The 'bigly' word, used to always get a nice laugh out of that. Turns out he was saying 'big league', I think...maybe it actually is bigly. Reminds me of the sniglets book...anyone remember sniglets? Nice flashback!

China not buying our debt. Certainly presents a problem on a few levels. Part of me wants to say Good! - we shouldn't be so reliant on debt bought by foreign countries to finance our excessive expenses. Then there is the other part...


Lots of new debt coming up due to the tax bill. Hope Trump can find a buyer.

 

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There could be lots of debt coming. But the Bush tax cuts produced increased revenue in the years after the cuts were inacted (up to the recession - which was not caused by the tax cuts). It is all about projections and estimates, nobody really knows. Even the best person at their job of forecasting, they really have no idea. There is no crystal ball for projecting economic activity and what effect it does or doesn't have. Only time will tell. If there is debt and China appetite goes south for it, then interest rates will rise to attract other buyers. And really higher interest rates aren't always a bad thing. They've kept their foot on the damn thing for so long, nobody can probably remember to function in a 5% interest rate atmosphere, let alone what rates were like in the 80s. Yet, life went on. As it will again.
 

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Looks like the Chinese might stop buying our bonds - that will be a bigly win...........


Looks like "fake news"

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/china-report-buying-us-debt-stop-f ake-news-52276074

 

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There could be lots of debt coming. But the Bush tax cuts produced increased revenue in the years after the cuts were inacted (up to the recession - which was not caused by the tax cuts). It is all about projections and estimates, nobody really knows. Even the best person at their job of forecasting, they really have no idea. There is no crystal ball for projecting economic activity and what effect it does or doesn't have. Only time will tell. If there is debt and China appetite goes south for it, then interest rates will rise to attract other buyers. And really higher interest rates aren't always a bad thing. They've kept their foot on the damn thing for so long, nobody can probably remember to function in a 5% interest rate atmosphere, let alone what rates were like in the 80s. Yet, life went on. As it will again.


Not really true. Although total tax receipts increased after the Bush tax cuts rose (as they do every year due to increased population regardless of anything else), the total revenue vs GDP, which is how economists measure effectiveness of tax cuts/increases, took a massive dive and never really recovered.

https://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/downchart_gr.php?year=1900_2010&uni ts=p&title=revenue%20as%20percent%20of%20gdp

 

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There could be lots of debt coming. But the Bush tax cuts produced increased revenue in the years after the cuts were inacted (up to the recession - which was not caused by the tax cuts). It is all about projections and estimates, nobody really knows. Even the best person at their job of forecasting, they really have no idea. There is no crystal ball for projecting economic activity and what effect it does or doesn't have. Only time will tell. If there is debt and China appetite goes south for it, then interest rates will rise to attract other buyers. And really higher interest rates aren't always a bad thing. They've kept their foot on the damn thing for so long, nobody can probably remember to function in a 5% interest rate atmosphere, let alone what rates were like in the 80s. Yet, life went on. As it will again.


Not really true. Although total tax receipts increased after the Bush tax cuts rose (as they do every year due to increased population regardless of anything else), the total revenue vs GDP, which is how economists measure effectiveness of tax cuts/increases, took a massive dive and never really recovered.

https://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/downchart_gr.php?year=1900_2010&uni ts=p&title=revenue%20as%20percent%20of%20gdp


This is a good link.

Wouldn't it be increased population in the labor force rather than just increased population?

Make sure I am seeing this right, from your link:



Is that showing revenue as a percent of GDP increasing from 2003-2007 (after the declines from the dot.com bubble recession and 9/11). The dive was not do to the tax cuts, or are you saying it was?

 
 


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