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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 11:03 AM
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I do think, and as BIGV explained in his response, that did happen in this particular election.

A lot of those who did vote for Trump cast an "in spite of" vote. You can see by the way that Boyton has behaved in this thread how that could occur.


Fine, I acted badly in this thread. Liberals have acted badly with intolerance and hostility. All true. And in response, the right decided to go lower out of spite, which is sad! And since it is true, there was an easy opportunity for the right to demonstrate that they are better, but like you said, that did happen in this particular election. Sad! Some might argue that the bigger failure falls on those who chose to go lower out of spite.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 11:10 AM
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And in response, the right decided to go lower out of spite


Where?

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 11:30 AM
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Poor Boy-ton! He is on full tilt here all because people with different opinions didnt appreciate his clever thread title.


I find it interesting that those people felt uncomfortable discussing it. Why?

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Boyton if you want to know why Trump won go back and read some of the many threads I posted about jobs, the economy, and rejecting the political elite class like Jeb!


Why didn't you say this instead of what is sitting there as the first post of the thread? If I were BIGV, I would say, "THIS is why we voted for Obama". But I wouldn't, because that's ridiculous.

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Now I know this admission only solidifies your opinion that I must be a racist, misogynist, low -info, homophobe, scared of brown people, and I secretly polish my swastikas and iron my sheets for rallies and own tiki torch oil for alterior reasons.


I don't think it's a hate for minority groups...I think it's more of a feeling of being threatened by change.

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...and of course illegal immigration. After decades of being told that the border is secure by both democrats and republicans ( many of which were gunning for the nomination) while droves of people flooded into the US unchecked.


I can understand this concern for those living in a border state, but if not, then I think people use this as their boogeyman. And you gotta think out of the box a little. Why can't it be stopped? Lets face it, Trump might put a small dent in it during his term but that's about it - it's more of a feel-good move more than anything else. It can't be stopped because our economy needs them. Businesses of all sizes need them. My far-right wing friend has a small business, and hiring is his biggest challenge. He now has mostly immigrants on his staff because they are the most productive and best people he could find, lol. Like I said, our economy needs them. Latin America is poor because their development is not a priority for the US. There's nothing Trump can do about that.

Anyway, it was refreshing to see a decent attempt to engage and add to the discussion for once, instead of trolling.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 11:32 AM
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Where?


I was referring to Trump, and your own quote above about how it did happend in this election - that they voted for Trump because of bad liberal behavior.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 11:36 AM
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Where?


and your own quote above


And this is "Taking it lower"?

Lower than referring to people as "scum", "Racists" & "Cockroaches"?

No, I'm afraid you set that bar.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 11:54 AM
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And this is "Taking it lower"?


Putting a personality like Trump in the office out of spite, not because he's best for our country, is a much bigger failure than liberals spouting off a bunch of b.s.

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Lower than referring to people as "scum", "Racists" & "Cockroaches"?

No, I'm afraid you set that bar.


Putting a person like Trump in office out of spite, not because he was the best, is a little bigger than my inappropriate website post, don't you think? And are ya sure about that bar comment? Go back and read the first 2 posts, and see how my thread was met. Seems pretty...pretty.....pretty.......pretty low to me.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 11:56 AM
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And are ya sure about that bar comment?


Yeah, pretty sure, I just read through the whole thread. No wait, I'm positive.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 12:14 PM
And there it is. The holier than everyone position. Everyone's a hypocrite, and your passive agressiveness is somehow better than the left's. Whatever.
 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 12:28 PM
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And there it is. The holier than everyone position. Everyone's a hypocrite, and your passive agressiveness is somehow better than the left's. Whatever.


Too funny

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Fine, I acted badly in this thread.


But it's someone else's fault!

 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 12:38 PM
Huh? That quote is the exact opposite of blaming others....it's me admitting fault. I'm bailing out after that delusion. Mule and Jerry, what are your thoughts on global warming?
 

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  posted on 12/2/2017 at 09:15 PM
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Hi Boyton.
Thought I would quote your question and ask which state primary were you referring to.

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Found this map that you might find useful. It has the results from all the primaries and caucuses, both dem and gop.
https://www.politico.com/mapdata-2016/2016-election/primary/results/map/pre sident/


Interested in offering your thoughts as to how/why Trump got the nomination instead? I already know the results.



Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.

 

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Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.


Make it interesting...gimme the long answer. The other 17 wasted their time. None stood a chance. What was worth having low rent behavior that is beneath the office? Some here stated that they voted in the low rent behavior on purpose, out of spite for bad liberal behavior. Is that your position as well?

 

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  posted on 12/4/2017 at 12:13 PM
Can we all just agree that it is Boyton's fault that Trump got elected? He is better for the country than Hillary would have been so I will offer my Thanks to our Brother From Boyton! THANKS! Looking forward to my tax cuts! You may want to lay low dude there are some libs that are not happy about the outcome of the election you influenced!

 

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  posted on 12/4/2017 at 02:29 PM
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Your opinion is worthless to me because you zero in on semantics instead of addressing my point like a coward.


The above is why Trump won.


So, how liberals behave drives the outcomes of elections?


I do think, and as BIGV explained in his response, that did happen in this particular election.

A lot of those who did vote for Trump cast an "in spite of" vote. You can see by the way that Boyton has behaved in this thread how that could occur.


Sure, but I will always wonder why it is that only liberals are held to some sort of insult standard and conservatives aren't. Conservatives are all over the place insulting liberals every day. Some have made entire lucrative media careers out of it.

I also wonder how adults can justify casting a vote based on nothing more than "neener, neener, libtard!" But, oh well.

 

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  posted on 12/4/2017 at 03:50 PM
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I will always wonder why it is that only liberals are held to some sort of insult standard and conservatives aren't. Conservatives are all over the place insulting liberals every day. Some have made entire lucrative media careers out of it.
Cool huh? Advertisers pay Big Bucks to get their commercials on the airwaves while liberals are being attacked. CNN tries the same thing and calls it News and no one will watch!




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I will always wonder why it is that only liberals are held to some sort of insult standard and conservatives aren't. Conservatives are all over the place insulting liberals every day. Some have made entire lucrative media careers out of it.
Cool huh? Advertisers pay Big Bucks to get their commercials on the airwaves while liberals are being attacked. CNN tries the same thing and calls it News and no one will watch!



Whatever that's supposed to mean.

 

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It means that advertisers are willing to pay big bucks to advertise on radio & TV shows where conservatives bash liberals. CNN (Liberals) bashes conservatives all day long and nobody listens (or watches). It seems in the entertainment world there is value in the bashing liberals but not so much the other way around.

 

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It means that advertisers are willing to pay big bucks to advertise on radio & TV shows where conservatives bash liberals. CNN (Liberals) bashes conservatives all day long and nobody listens (or watches). It seems in the entertainment world there is value in the bashing liberals but not so much the other way around.


As long as you're good with it, that's all that matters.

 

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You made the point. I just expanded it. You're Welcome!

 

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You made the point. I just expanded it. You're Welcome!


It wasn't my point at all, but you knew that.

 

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You made the point. I just expanded it. You're Welcome!


It wasn't my point at all, but you knew that.
You are persistent, but you knew that.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2017 at 07:35 PM
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Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.


Make it interesting...gimme the long answer. The other 17 wasted their time. None stood a chance. What was worth having low rent behavior that is beneath the office? Some here stated that they voted in the low rent behavior on purpose, out of spite for bad liberal behavior. Is that your position as well?


How about part of a long answer?

Remember the reports that some Dems were switching registration to GOP?

Pennsylvania reported that 50,179 voters switched party affiliation from Democrat to Republican in 2016.
During the period of 2008 to 2015 192,521 switched from D to R, while 124,526 switched from R to D.

CBS news reported that over 20,000 switched from D to R in Massachusetts in 2016.

There are still some sites and forums up that urge Dems to change to GOP so they can vote FOR Trump getting the nomination.

Read some comments on Quora.com, type in "Why don't democrats register as republicans and vote for
Trump in the primary so Clinton can win in the general election." Or, just type it into Google search.

If they followed that proposal, then that explains his leads over other candidates. If that is what happened, then the Dems voted Trump into the nomination thinking he couldn't possibly win. Well, he won, and now the Dems claim he's not their president, even though they are responsible for his election if they did as the proposals asked.

 

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Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.


Make it interesting...gimme the long answer. The other 17 wasted their time. None stood a chance. What was worth having low rent behavior that is beneath the office? Some here stated that they voted in the low rent behavior on purpose, out of spite for bad liberal behavior. Is that your position as well?


How about part of a long answer?

Remember the reports that some Dems were switching registration to GOP?

Pennsylvania reported that 50,179 voters switched party affiliation from Democrat to Republican in 2016.
During the period of 2008 to 2015 192,521 switched from D to R, while 124,526 switched from R to D.

CBS news reported that over 20,000 switched from D to R in Massachusetts in 2016.

There are still some sites and forums up that urge Dems to change to GOP so they can vote FOR Trump getting the nomination.

Read some comments on Quora.com, type in "Why don't democrats register as republicans and vote for
Trump in the primary so Clinton can win in the general election." Or, just type it into Google search.

If they followed that proposal, then that explains his leads over other candidates. If that is what happened, then the Dems voted Trump into the nomination thinking he couldn't possibly win. Well, he won, and now the Dems claim he's not their president, even though they are responsible for his election if they did as the proposals asked.


What? No response to that fact that Democrats put Trump in the White House?

 

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  posted on 12/11/2017 at 11:53 PM
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Short answer, he won more delegates than did the others running in the GOP primaries.


Make it interesting...gimme the long answer. The other 17 wasted their time. None stood a chance. What was worth having low rent behavior that is beneath the office? Some here stated that they voted in the low rent behavior on purpose, out of spite for bad liberal behavior. Is that your position as well?


How about part of a long answer?

Remember the reports that some Dems were switching registration to GOP?

Pennsylvania reported that 50,179 voters switched party affiliation from Democrat to Republican in 2016.
During the period of 2008 to 2015 192,521 switched from D to R, while 124,526 switched from R to D.

CBS news reported that over 20,000 switched from D to R in Massachusetts in 2016.

There are still some sites and forums up that urge Dems to change to GOP so they can vote FOR Trump getting the nomination.

Read some comments on Quora.com, type in "Why don't democrats register as republicans and vote for
Trump in the primary so Clinton can win in the general election." Or, just type it into Google search.

If they followed that proposal, then that explains his leads over other candidates. If that is what happened, then the Dems voted Trump into the nomination thinking he couldn't possibly win. Well, he won, and now the Dems claim he's not their president, even though they are responsible for his election if they did as the proposals asked.


What? No response to that fact that Democrats put Trump in the White House?


In some respects they did. Had a few Bernie or bust voters in a few key states not stayed home, Trump would not be ruining the country right now.

 
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