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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 06:03 AM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/radiohead-nina-simone-up-for-rock-hall- 2018/ar-AAsVeBk?li=BBnb2gh&srcref=rss

Bon Jovi

Kate Bush

The Cars

Depeche Mode

Dire Straits

Eurythmics

J. Geils Band

Judas Priest

LL Cool J

MC5

The Meters

Moody Blues

Radiohead

Rage Against the Machine

Rufus featuring Chaka Khan

Nina Simone

Sister Rosetta Tharpe

Link Wray

The Zombies

Only 5 will get in out of that group.

 
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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 06:18 AM
Not the strongest of cases across this bunch. Geils stands out, maybe The Meters, maybe The Cars.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 06:35 AM
I would vote for Dire Straits and J. Geils. Moody Blues might get some consideration, but i was never a fan. The Meters?? maybe.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 06:38 AM
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I would vote for Dire Straits and J. Geils. Moody Blues might get some consideration, but i was never a fan. The Meters?? maybe.
I went to see the moody blues once [1983] I went just to see the opening act [Stevie Ray Vaughan] when M.B. came on I literally went to sleep.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 06:57 AM
The same thing probably would have happened to me, Pops.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 08:39 AM
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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 08:45 AM
I'm kind of blown away that the Dire Straits aren't in already. They've been eligible for years.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 09:55 AM
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I'm kind of blown away that the Dire Straits aren't in already. They've been eligible for years.


Same here, hope Mark Knopfler and the guys make it in, long overdue. Also rooting for The Moody Blues & The J. Geils Band.

Just noticed Judas Priest and Rufus with Chaka Khan! Wow! Very happy about this.



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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 10:14 AM
Seems like a weak slate of nominees, as a whole.

My SWAG prediction:

Bon Jovi
Dire Straits
The Meters
Judas Priest
The Cars


Maybe LL Cool J as my outlier/surprise selection instead of Priest or maybe the Meters.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 10:20 AM
If the site ever starts working I'll vote for Radiohead, Nina Simone and the Meters, and probably Rage. I don't know who would be #5. I know how important Rosetta Tharpe was, but I don't know her music. Kick Out the Jams is an intense record but that's the only MC5 stuff I've heard. Not that anyone's opinion counts other than Jann Wenner.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 11:45 AM
All of those names strike me as significant, but on a personal level, very few of them are ones who blow me away.

Bon Jovi - incredibly successful but in no way groundbreaking. I guess you could argue that they influenced the genre of pop metal.....I am not a fan.

Kate Bush - I never really got it.

The Cars - incredibly powerful first album and plenty of well-crafted hits. Remarkable guitarist. Very influential sound in 80s pop and alternative rock. I'm not sure if much after the first album is essential.

Depeche Mode - I never got it.

Dire Straits - had some great songs. Knopfler is a master player. However, I tend not to think of them as Top Tier Legendary Rockers, but that has not been the criteria for a while, I guess.

Eurythmics - another big influence on 1980s music. Great singer. Not my cup of tea but I appreciate them now more than I did then.

J. Geils Band - wonderful band. You could argue that they didn't break much new ground but they deserve it for the years they put in and their heat as a live band.

Judas Priest - certainly important in the evolution of heavy metal. I would hope to see Rob Halford jam with Peter Wolf and Kate Bush lol.

LL Cool J - I never got it.

MC5 - wild stuff. Certainly a fave of hip rock critics!

The Meters - this may the band I have listened to the most out of all of this year's picks. I sincerely hope they get in.

Moody Blues - I never loved them, but they certainly had one of the best-received "rock band with orchestra" albums.

Radiohead - I love several of their albums. They keep taking chances and pushing music forward. To me, this may be the biggest no-brainer here.

Rage Against the Machine - not my thing, but I get a kick out of their anger. Someone needs to take that Digitech Whammy Pedal away from their guitarist already thought.

Rufus featuring Chaka Khan - I just know the hits, which are funky as all get-out.

Nina Simone - I'm ignorant.

Sister Rosetta Tharpe - I remain ignorant.

Link Wray - I only know a few jukebox instrumental faves, but they are very cool, and plenty of iconic 1960s players cite him as an influence.

The Zombies - I just saw them in the spring and they were amazing. on the one hand, I've always struggled with bands who have a very small body of work, but, their body of work is very cool.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 12:07 PM
Cars (Enormous radio play, probably TOO much, but that qualifies them)
Dire Straits (Very unique sounding rock and roll band with a heavy Americana influence)
Judas Priest (NO-BRAINER!! Heavy Metal Masters)
J. Geils (Plenty of hits, they should be in)
Moody Blues (I never liked them but they were huge. Most orchestral rock band I can think of)

Radiohead? I know they are big but I tried to watch one of their shows on AXS once..........had to drop out after 20 minutes......just didn't get it.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 12:15 PM
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Nina Simone - I'm ignorant.

YOU are in for a treat. She was a great piano player and a very expressive singer, and also a force for civil rights. Here are a few of my favorites.

Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
This is her song originally, this live one is the most haunting piece of music I've ever heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhR0Jtf2tvo

See-Line Woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMp6zcmcFw

Trouble in Mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeKaLADxNQg

Funkier Than a Mosquito's Tweeter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwk7DWq_E3s

Four Women
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWW0QkXr0iI

To Be Young, Gifted and Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEMOxRxcJpo

Black is the Color of My True Love's Hair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWmCbEbMmeU

I Wish I Knew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI-ezEtJ_-s

Mississippi Goddam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBiAtwQZnHs

She was also one of those people who could cover anything and make it hers.

I Think It's Going to Rain Today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjQgN-PhBEU

Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij1UDMr3B-E

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 12:26 PM
Still no JOHNNY WINTER??????????

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 01:14 PM
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If the site ever starts working I'll vote for Radiohead, Nina Simone and the Meters, and probably Rage. I don't know who would be #5. I know how important Rosetta Tharpe was, but I don't know her music. Kick Out the Jams is an intense record but that's the only MC5 stuff I've heard. Not that anyone's opinion counts other than Jann Wenner.


#5 would be LL. Count on it.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 04:05 PM
Man, some of you guys are a hard bunch. LOL

Bon Jovi has sold world wide and continue to do so. They are an act from the 'hair Metal" years that never lost popularity and continued to sell both albums and tickets. Countless hits. You may not like them but to question whether they should get in? That is like a baseball player having a 25 year career and batting .400 each season and winning 20 Golden Glove Awards and debating if they are worthy of the HOF. Their success is undeniable.

The Cars were far more than one albums also. Great career sales and tons of hits. Compared to some already in - they are deserving. Success in concert, video and radio. To me they are borderline but much better than many already in.

Dire Straits will get in. Unique sound and hits.

Some great acts after that but not HOFers to me.

LL Cool J should never get in but will be this years rapper. Which only helps prove that this annual debate (while fun) is stupid. A band like Judas Priest will get stiffed over acts like that.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 04:57 PM
Well I think it's Radiohead for sure getting in. I don't get it. I've never gotten it. Thom Yorke just mopes around and mumbles out some words and looks like the whole world is on his shoulders and people love it. I'll never get it.

My 5 picks are:

The Cars
Dire Straits
J. Geils Band
Judas Priest
The Meters

The 5 I think will get in based on recent Rock Hall inductions are:

Judas Priest
LL Cool J
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Nina Simone

They will add Mark Knopfler in as an individual contributor like they did Nile Rodgers last year instead of putting Chic in.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 04:59 PM
Well, if I had to pick my 5, it would be:

Dire Straits
MC5
Rage Against the Machine
Nina Simone
Link Wray

Rage are incredible, as are their new offshoot: Prophets of Rage. Saw them a few times and they kick it. Plus Tom played with Springsteen and did a great job.
DS are another great band that deserve it.
MC5 were some of the pioneers of punk
Link is credited with putting the first feedback on record.
Nina, well, she also was incredible.
I also think Moody Blues, Cars, Meters, J Geils, etc. are all good. Never really enjoyed Judas Priest.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 06:05 PM
Kind of shocked with the lack of love for the Meters on this site. I guess I thought there would be a LOT more. In my opinion, they are the only group on this list with the entire band possessing top notch musicianship. They are the forefathers of New Orleans funk and did as much for funk as James Brown & Sly Stone, they just didn't get the public recognition. Members of the Stones, Zeppelin, & Paul Mc Cartney were/are huge fans if that says anything. They deserve it as much as anyone.
 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 06:16 PM
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Kind of shocked with the lack of love for the Meters on this site. I guess I thought there would be a LOT more. In my opinion, they are the only group on this list with the entire band possessing top notch musicianship. They are the forefathers of New Orleans funk and did as much for funk as James Brown & Sly Stone, they just didn't get the public recognition. Members of the Stones, Zeppelin, & Paul Mc Cartney were/are huge fans if that says anything. They deserve it as much as anyone.
They are great, and all still alive.

 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 06:44 PM
Plus they were Dr John's band on some primo stuff of his.
 

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  posted on 10/5/2017 at 10:26 PM
still no johnny winter, grand funk railroad or mountain. doh.
 

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  posted on 10/6/2017 at 09:36 AM
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Bon Jovi has sold world wide and continue to do so. They are an act from the 'hair Metal" years that never lost popularity and continued to sell both albums and tickets. Countless hits. You may not like them but to question whether they should get in? That is like a baseball player having a 25 year career and batting .400 each season and winning 20 Golden Glove Awards and debating if they are worthy of the HOF. Their success is undeniable.

Nobody's denying their success. They're saying they're not one of the greatest bands ever. The baseball player you described would be the best ever by such a huge margin that nobody would even argue about it anymore and nobody thinks that's Bon Jovi's place in rock. They've sold a ton of records and they must be a bunch of people's favorite (btw: their last big hit was almost 20 years ago), but in terms of influence or innovation I don't think that's how most people see them. Maybe they have more influence than I know about since hair metal isn't my thing.

Not that you need me to tell you this, but since this isn't a sport there are no championships or relevant statistics and not much agreement on what the "sport" is, it's hard to argue anybody HAS to be in. Garth Brooks has sold about the same number of records as Bon Jovi, I think, and so has Celine Dion. Neither of them is getting in even though other artists with lesser sales who definitely didn't make rock music are already in. Also: you can argue the best baseball player ever is not in the Hall of Fame. I dunno what that tells you about any of this.

I appreciate it when the hall honors people I like, and when they induct people whose music I don't enjoy, I don't care. So I'm not going to make a case against Bon Jovi other than I find their music not just crappy but almost deliberately boring. I don't know what else you can say about a band that tried to show attitude by writing a song called "Have a Nice Day" (it was sarcastic, get it?). That's the end of the argument for me. But you can't argue that leaving them out compromises the integrity of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because the whole project has none. I don't even mean that in a derogatory way. It's just fundamentally arbitrary and mostly reflects one person's view of music.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2017 at 09:50 AM
Thrilled to see Sister Rosetta nominated. Also great to see MC5.
I see both as more about Rock and Roll than LL or Nina.
Shocked to learn Johnny Winter not in yet, outrageous!

 

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  posted on 10/6/2017 at 10:22 AM
Answer is simple. Make the voting like the baseball hof. Percentage needed rather than five a year.
 
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