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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 12:58 PM
Sad situation. People need resources and supplies. Tons of material waiting on the docks and little organization on the ground to deal with the supplies. The governor seems to be working with the administration but the San Juan mayor is critizicing and blasting fema and Trump. 80 billion in debt for an island with 3 million people. Rejected statehood when asked to vote on it - Puerto Rico residents voted against statehood (in 1967, 1993 and 1998). THere have been more recent referendumbs but they are toothless. Moving forward, Puerto Rico has a massive job to rebuild, restructure, shed debt, and help its people.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 01:11 PM
Dude, I know you're a homer for Trump, but you're so far off topic. The people of PR, fellow citizens whom are essentially governed without representation, need help, just like the people of New Orleans and Houston needed after hurricanes. Trump would rather whine about how unfairly he is being treated while he vacations in NJ and you'd rather make this about past statehood referendums? Who the hell has time for irrelevant crap like that while people need fresh water?

Also, I don't hear you complaining about Houston's urban developers who ignored warnings and built in flood plains and on top of drained swamps only to have those areas flooded after Harvey hit.

This is a natural disaster; politics don't apply unless you're deplorable.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 01:18 PM
Yeap, nuclear war for Guam. But not much support for PR.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 01:24 PM
This is a desperate situation for our American brothers & sisters in Puerto Rico - lack of drinking water, electricity, medicine, food, etc. The Attacker In Chief now goes after the mayor of San Juan in his usual manner criticizing anyone who doesn't bow to his statements or efforts. The other day it was the the NFL players, and today it's people who have lost everything. Tomorrow it will be another person, congressman, sector, or state.

What a leader we have, goob? You would do as he does & do stupid antagonistic tweets like 45? While he takes AF 1 to his resort on tax payers' dime, peoples' lives are in the balance in Puerto Rico, and he insults them while they are down. It speaks volumes about his leadership ability and humanitarian values. This should surprise nobody at this point.

Hope he has a great round of golf today & his presence at his club results in him making a few bucks off of new memberships.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 01:33 PM
Wow, Goober, how long have you been analyzing the financials and political policies of PR? I'm impressed with your deep knowledge of that region and how to manage it towards prrosperity. Your objective analysis proves to me that you did your own homework, and could not have simply regurgitated a Trump tweet.
 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 01:34 PM
Roads are trashed, trucks can't get out. Paracargo water filters and purification gear, food, medical essentials. airdrops NOW.
 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 01:40 PM
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THere have been more recent referendumbs [sic] but they are toothless.


Voting to retain a measure of independence is "toothless", but voting for and defending a billionaire oligarch man-child really takes some stones.

Did I get that right?

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 02:05 PM
I have no idea if the hurricane response is inadequate or slow due to the situation on the ground. My guess its the later, and the Mayor of SanJuan is not helping by inflaming the situation. The President has been there and plans to be back next week.

From the Politco story:

At the same time, Cortes (Republican state Rep. Bob Cortes, a Puerto Rico native who lives in Central Florida),noted that Puerto Rico deserves its share of the blame: the commonwealth is plagued by corruption and mismanagement, he said, adding that the island’s trucker’s union has tried to “shake down FEMA” while not delivering supplies. “It took a storm of this magnitude to show how underprepared they were,” Cortes said.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fl.) also pointed to problems on the island in a Friday tweet, writing that criticism of the Trump administration response is "missing [the] main problem." The Federal Emergency Management Agency "has sent lots of aid problem is distribution once it gets to #PuertoRico," Rubio wrote.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/30/trump-attacks-mayor-san-juan-puert o-rico-hurricane-243329


 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 02:24 PM
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I have no idea if the hurricane response is inadequate or slow due to the situation on the ground. My guess its the later, and the Mayor of SanJuan is not helping by inflaming the situation. The President has been there and plans to be back next week.




Goob,

How often does the Tweeter In Chief inflame situations impacting the USA or the world? Answer - Consistently ever since he's been elected. The Puerto Rico responses and tweets follow a standard pattern of Trump's. He thrives when he can criticize and make a new enemy. He loves the battle especially when he's not getting the PR or recognition that he so desperately needs to fulfill his ego. This is the man-child you voted for and look up to. I'm wondering if his 10 year old son is more mature than he is.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 02:27 PM
A whole lot of dying about to happen - let's shelf the politics for a minute, I just called and emailed the White House, suggesting airdrops of water purification gear, food, tents, medical essentials, can't hurt to contact them:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact#page


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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 03:18 PM
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The President has been there and plans to be back next week.


Trump has not been there since the storm. Not that it is important that he physically be there, but he did delay cutting red tape that would have gotten provisions to the island days sooner. He preferred to play golf in NJ and b1tch about the NFL.

But none of that matters. Pointing the finger at the mayor of San Juan, who is working tirelessly for her people and simply making people aware that they desperately need aid, is completely shameful. Trump is sitting back and blaming rather than solving problems and finding solutions.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 04:55 PM
I don't understand why the Press isn't out in the field actually reporting with video and photos of the incredible devastation and suffering. Trump is doing exactly what I expect. He is letting the poor suffer while he works out new ways to improve the lives of the wealthy. I'm sure he feels he is doing his job and doing it damn well. The Press? If they were truly reporting this horrible disaster Trump would not be able to ignore the outrage of the People.

The Press did a great deal to end the war in Vietnam. They were in the field. They showed the horror to the American People and the People finally rejected the horror. They need to do their jobs now, today. We need drone footage. We need the Press to hold this administration accountable.

Maybe then even Goober would get it.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 05:34 PM
https://youtu.be/2anU7aHR4uE

Here's a couple minutes of AP footage, bunch of stuff on youtube. I don't have cable so wasn't aware of any news blackout. From this clip it is easy to see the place is trashed. Like a flooded ghost town. Probably so severe that the news can't even get around much. It is really bad. Next couple of weeks a lot of people are going start dying, even if they do get emergency relief. Time to mobilize international relief effort.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 05:50 PM
Jose Andreas has great restaurants. I always enjoy eating at any of them when I'm in the District. He also has a past with Trump. I think this article shows us which of the two is the better man.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2017/09/29/jose-andres-a-natura lized-u-s-citizen-has-become-the-face-of-american-disaster-relief/?hpid=hp_ local-news_andres-945am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.4c205d60fcf4

 

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  posted on 9/30/2017 at 05:52 PM
I'm not saying there is a black out Brother Rabbit. I'm saying that they could be doing far more. There should be 12 minutes on the nightly news every night.

Maybe there is... It isn't like I'm watching.

 

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Where are all the media big stars? This crisis has not even been the top story on many nightly news networks.
Not sure why but compared to the wall to wall Irma coverage (Chris Hayes?!?) the focus has not been on Puerto Rico. In fact the Presidents recent tweets may have refocused the media back on whats happening down there.

 

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  posted on 10/1/2017 at 06:03 AM
It'll be ok Goob, don't stress so much about it.
 

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  posted on 10/1/2017 at 06:05 AM
Honestly, they should relocate as many as possible to the mainland until they get the infrastructure rebuilt like they did with Katrina. They are American citizens after all. I would suggest they move to Florida, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
 

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  posted on 10/1/2017 at 07:27 AM
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Wow, Goober, how long have you been analyzing the financials and political policies of PR? I'm impressed with your deep knowledge of that region and how to manage it towards prrosperity. Your objective analysis proves to me that you did your own homework, and could not have simply regurgitated a Trump tweet.


trump doesn't tweet anywhere near the clownservative talking points that goober gave us.

 

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  posted on 10/1/2017 at 07:29 AM
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I don't understand why the Press isn't out in the field actually reporting with video and photos of the incredible devastation and suffering. Trump is doing exactly what I expect. He is letting the poor suffer while he works out new ways to improve the lives of the wealthy. I'm sure he feels he is doing his job and doing it damn well. The Press? If they were truly reporting this horrible disaster Trump would not be able to ignore the outrage of the People.

The Press did a great deal to end the war in Vietnam. They were in the field. They showed the horror to the American People and the People finally rejected the horror. They need to do their jobs now, today. We need drone footage. We need the Press to hold this administration accountable.

Maybe then even Goober would get it.



CNN has reporters there covering it daily.

 

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  posted on 10/1/2017 at 05:29 PM
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Sad situation. People need resources and supplies. Tons of material waiting on the docks and little organization on the ground to deal with the supplies. The governor seems to be working with the administration but the San Juan mayor is critizicing and blasting fema and Trump. 80 billion in debt for an island with 3 million people. Rejected statehood when asked to vote on it - Puerto Rico residents voted against statehood (in 1967, 1993 and 1998). THere have been more recent referendumbs but they are toothless. Moving forward, Puerto Rico has a massive job to rebuild, restructure, shed debt, and help its people.


Exactly right.

Puerto Rico’s problems are self-inflicted. The fuel, food, water, generators and disaster relief supplies are sitting on their docks but are not getting delivered because their truck drivers are on strike and demanding $50/hr.

The islands electric power company is bankrupt. Their electric power delivery system is above ground and the poles are rotted. This problem has been going on for decades.

Puerto Rico’s DRP is over 10 years old and useless. Their local and territory government is clueless when it comes to disaster relief. The Texas and Florida hurricane response operations were stellar at the local, state and federal levels. Of course, Texas and Florida are run by Republicans and Puerto Rico’s government is run by “New Progressives”, the far-left version of the Democrats.

The San Juan Mayor was all thankful for and praised President Trump’s help until she was “counseled” by the Democrat Party leadership. Immediately thereafter her talking points were straight out of the Democrat Party attack manual.

She has been saying “Trump is killing us”, a standard lie from the Democrats mouthpieces. Not surprisingly only 16 people has died since the hurricane hit and not one reporter on the island has been able to find anyone that has died since the hurricane hit due any perceived lack of federal response.

The Governor continues to be very thankful for President Trump and the Federal Government’s response.

The corrupt liberal media has been giving the incompetent San Juan Mayor all the camera time they can. After being unable to criticize President Trump for the Texas and Florida relief operations they are now manufacturing a “FEMA/U.S. failure” in PR. Typical. When they have nothing just make it up.

Apparently, the corrupt liberal media and Puerto Rico’s government are not familiar with the NRP(framework). Factually, Puerto Rico has not been in compliance with the NPR(F) yet this century and are now suffering as a result of their own gross mismanagement and incompetence.

Disaster Response fails when it is politicized. There was nothing political about the Texas and Florida disaster response operations. When President Trump and The First Lady visited us at the EOC in Austin not one political word was spoken. The mayor of San Juan chose to make it political.

Choices have consequences.




 

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  posted on 10/1/2017 at 06:51 PM
In other words, f*ck Puerto Rico.
 

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  posted on 10/1/2017 at 07:11 PM
muledouche has jumped on the fake news big time.

Laughable as always.

The garbage about truck drivers refusing to work???

That bit of FAKE NEWS is from a clownservative conspiracy site.

Once again he shows how truly clueless he is.

http://ussanews.com/News1/2017/09/30/san-juan-port-teamsters-drivers-on-str ike-no-show-for-trumps-puerto-rico-relief-efforts/

The site calls itself "The tea party's front page".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!



Here's another view, I'm sure muledoche won't care for that "biased" source: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/28/554297787/puerto-rico-rel ief-goods-sit-undistributed-at-ports





 

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  posted on 10/1/2017 at 07:13 PM
From the above NPR story:

"Richard Darmanin, the vice president of Capitol Transportation Inc., says import paperwork is having to be done manually, which is also slowing down the process. And standing outside the port earlier this week, looking at the rows of containers, he said an even bigger problem is the lack of drivers.

You have a shortage of drivers who have lost a lot during the storm," he says. "You may have a huge fleet but they ain't moving themselves."

"Whatever driver shows up, we put him to work," he says.

The governor of Puerto Rico has issued an appeal for anyone with a commercial license to help distribute gas, Darmanin says."

[Edited on 10/2/2017 by PhotoRon286]

 

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  posted on 10/2/2017 at 08:48 AM
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muledouche has jumped on the fake news big time.

Laughable as always.

The garbage about truck drivers refusing to work???

That bit of FAKE NEWS is from a clownservative conspiracy site.

Once again he shows how truly clueless he is.

http://ussanews.com/News1/2017/09/30/san-juan-port-teamsters-drivers-on-str ike-no-show-for-trumps-puerto-rico-relief-efforts/

The site calls itself "The tea party's front page".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Here's another view, I'm sure muledoche won't care for that "biased" source: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/28/554297787/puerto-rico-rel ief-goods-sit-undistributed-at-ports



I'm sure he didn't even know where Puerto Rico was until a few days ago. Probably still doesn't, except that it's "in an ocean", but at least he has none sense fake websites to tell him what to think. Sad!

If you really want to bring up PR's financial stability, let's not forget that Trump himself left Puerto Rico tens of millions of dollars in the lurch for one of his failed casinos.

 

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