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I am as serious as a heart attack here. I expected the article would mildly ruffle a few feathers, nothing more


So why did you say you were surprised by it earlier?
I put that back for you the way it was before you quoted. The answer is obvious, or should be. Seems like it did a lot more than mildly ruffle a few feathers. And I was very surprised at the level of anger that followed.

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I can't say that I knew he would win but I never doubted the possibility.


There's record on this site of me predicting his victory days after he made the comment about Mexicans early in the campaign. It was obvious to me he was going to win after he said that. He won it right then and there. Why do you think that is?
I take a stab at that. Was it because you knew the other side had had enough? Kind of like the article in question suggests?

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I know.... your laughing now but it is true. Because unlike Trump who has succeeded at many things, Obama had not. You too will survive the Trump years.


Well at least you realize we have been laughing this whole time. As for Obama and Trump, at least Obama got his healthcare passed, while Trump failed at the easier dismantling of it. Can you elaborate on what Trump can do that Obama cannot? Or are you just here to declare your POV like any idiot can do?
I am glad you are laughing because a lot of these posts seem like they are coming from angry people not people who are laughing. Looks to me like congress has failed to give Trump a healthcare bill to sign. I am disappointed in that but I can't lay it all on Trump by any means. I am sure Trump could do a lot of things that Obama can't and vice versa but what I said was "Because unlike Trump who has succeeded at many things, Obama had not."

 

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  posted on 9/28/2017 at 03:22 PM
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I am as serious as a heart attack here. I expected the article would mildly ruffle a few feathers, nothing more.


You may think you've triggered a bunch of libtard snowflakes, but, you're giving yourself too much credit.
Are you an angry white man? If so, according to the media you may be rooting for the wrong side.

 

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  posted on 9/28/2017 at 09:56 PM
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Seems like it did a lot more than mildly ruffle a few feathers. And I was very surprised at the level of anger that followed.


I don't buy either statement. I agree with the previous poster that you are giving yourself way too much credit - I don't think anyone on this site comes here and gets all riled up. I think most people here enjoy the discourse. You desperately wish you had that ability though.

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I take a stab at that. Was it because you knew the other side had had enough? Kind of like the article in question suggests?


No, there were 18 other Republican candidates in the beginning to choose from that would be the opposite of Obama, yet he won back then before he stated any of his positions or policies.

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Looks to me like congress has failed to give Trump a healthcare bill to sign. I am disappointed in that but I can't lay it all on Trump by any means.


Somehow Obama got it done, creating it from scratch. That's not succeeding?



[Edited on 9/29/2017 by BoytonBrother]

 

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Seems like it did a lot more than mildly ruffle a few feathers. And I was very surprised at the level of anger that followed.


I don't buy either statement. I agree with the previous poster that you are giving yourself way too much credit - I don't think anyone on this site comes here and gets all riled up. I think most people here enjoy the discourse. You desperately wish you had that ability though.

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I take a stab at that. Was it because you knew the other side had had enough? Kind of like the article in question suggests?


No, there were 18 other Republican candidates in the beginning to choose from that would be the opposite of Obama, yet he won back then before he stated any of his positions or policies.

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Looks to me like congress has failed to give Trump a healthcare bill to sign. I am disappointed in that but I can't lay it all on Trump by any means.


Somehow Obama got it done, creating it from scratch. That's not succeeding?



The one thing that we should all be thankful for is Trump's failure in leadership. Who would have thought that with his party in control of both parties in congress that he would still not have been able to get a major piece of legislation passed 9 months in. If it weren't for executive orders (the same thing he criticised Obama for doing), the great negotiator would have zero accomplishments. Lucky for Trump, he gets to use Twitter to distract his base and the fine people with the torches and swastikas.

 

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I am as serious as a heart attack here. I expected the article would mildly ruffle a few feathers, nothing more. When Obama beat McCain one of the contributing factors was 8 years of GW and republican policies. Fair enough. This is no different except some of the references do go back further than just the Obama years. But one thing is clear regardless of what you think of that list... A Sleeping bear has been awakened! It seems to have put "the other side" in a bit of a "need to catch my breath and recover" mode.

What is really funny to me is how many people laughed at the prospect of Trump winning. All the way up until the end. Yet there were some who didn't doubt the possibility at all and yet even a few that predicted early on that he would go all the way. I can't say that I knew he would win but I never doubted the possibility. Couple that with my belief that America was NEVER going to elect Hillary and I guess I had more confidence in the outcome than most.

It's politics folks not the end of the world. Believe it or not most conservatives actually survived the Obama years. Trust me, most conservatives thought way less of his abilities and policies than liberals do of Trumps. I know.... your laughing now but it is true. Because unlike Trump who has succeeded at many things, Obama had not. You too will survive the Trump years. All 12 of them
Name the "many things" trump has succeeded at?. he's a bullsh!t artist and YOU, and many other suckers fell for it.
OK you called me sucker and suggested that I am simple yet you are not aware of Trumps successes? Wow! He has been very successful in business, he has been successfull in entertainment, earned a lot of money doing both. He helped a whole lot of people along the way. He beat 16 very qualified candidates in the Republican primary and one hugely unqualified candidate that had a lot of campaign money & political clout in the general election. I don't know how you measure success but to suggest he has not had any would be foolish.
Being a real estate robber baron does not qualify you to be president, running a scam university does not make you a success, not paying your bills, stiffing contractors , makes you a scumbag. this guy is a P.O.S. super sized, and a sh!tty leader. congratulations, YOU helped elect a nazi loving, orange clown.

 

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Seems like it did a lot more than mildly ruffle a few feathers. And I was very surprised at the level of anger that followed.


I don't buy either statement. I agree with the previous poster that you are giving yourself way too much credit - I don't think anyone on this site comes here and gets all riled up. I think most people here enjoy the discourse. You desperately wish you had that ability though. ?
Incredible! absolutely incredible! You don't believe that I was surprised at the level of apparent anger that the article I posted generated. "I desperately wish..." for real? You think you can see into my thoughts? Dude chill out. And contrary to your line of thinking I am NOT taking credit for anything. I posted an article that I agree with for the most part. The article seems to have bothered some people. Some even seemed a bit angry, way more so than I expected. Why you chose not to believe that is a mystery to me.


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I take a stab at that. Was it because you knew the other side had had enough? Kind of like the article in question suggests?


No, there were 18 other Republican candidates in the beginning to choose from that would be the opposite of Obama, yet he won back then before he stated any of his positions or policies.
Exactly!! And most of those 18 are considered to be part of the establishment and just as much a part of the problem as Obama was!!! Hence the election of the outsider Donald Trump. You may be catching on and not even realize it. Good for you!

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Looks to me like congress has failed to give Trump a healthcare bill to sign. I am disappointed in that but I can't lay it all on Trump by any means.


Somehow Obama got it done, creating it from scratch. That's not succeeding?
[Edited on 9/29/2017 by BoytonBrother]
I never said Obama had zero success as a president. Whether I like his polices or not he did succeed in getting a great deal of his agenda passed. Again part of why some of America was ready for a change. (and the whole "You created Us" thing). What I did say and stand by completely is that Trump had many successes BEFORE running for president where Obama did not. IF you read the posts carefully and NOT follow your instinct to try to distort the intended meaning you probably would find you don't disagree with near as many people on near as many things as you think you do. Don't be afraid.. Take The Red Pill



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I am as serious as a heart attack here. I expected the article would mildly ruffle a few feathers, nothing more. When Obama beat McCain one of the contributing factors was 8 years of GW and republican policies. Fair enough. This is no different except some of the references do go back further than just the Obama years. But one thing is clear regardless of what you think of that list... A Sleeping bear has been awakened! It seems to have put "the other side" in a bit of a "need to catch my breath and recover" mode.

What is really funny to me is how many people laughed at the prospect of Trump winning. All the way up until the end. Yet there were some who didn't doubt the possibility at all and yet even a few that predicted early on that he would go all the way. I can't say that I knew he would win but I never doubted the possibility. Couple that with my belief that America was NEVER going to elect Hillary and I guess I had more confidence in the outcome than most.

It's politics folks not the end of the world. Believe it or not most conservatives actually survived the Obama years. Trust me, most conservatives thought way less of his abilities and policies than liberals do of Trumps. I know.... your laughing now but it is true. Because unlike Trump who has succeeded at many things, Obama had not. You too will survive the Trump years. All 12 of them
Name the "many things" trump has succeeded at?. he's a bullsh!t artist and YOU, and many other suckers fell for it.
OK you called me sucker and suggested that I am simple yet you are not aware of Trumps successes? Wow! He has been very successful in business, he has been successfull in entertainment, earned a lot of money doing both. He helped a whole lot of people along the way. He beat 16 very qualified candidates in the Republican primary and one hugely unqualified candidate that had a lot of campaign money & political clout in the general election. I don't know how you measure success but to suggest he has not had any would be foolish.
Being a real estate robber baron does not qualify you to be president, running a scam university does not make you a success, not paying your bills, stiffing contractors , makes you a scumbag. this guy is a P.O.S. super sized, and a sh!tty leader. congratulations, YOU helped elect a nazi loving, orange clown.
And I am sure you are WAY more successful than he has ever been. Seems you are particularly good at name calling. So congratulations back at you. At least Trump knows how many states there are in this country. In the words of a not do great man that I almost never agree with, "Elections have consequences".

 

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I am as serious as a heart attack here. I expected the article would mildly ruffle a few feathers, nothing more. When Obama beat McCain one of the contributing factors was 8 years of GW and republican policies. Fair enough. This is no different except some of the references do go back further than just the Obama years. But one thing is clear regardless of what you think of that list... A Sleeping bear has been awakened! It seems to have put "the other side" in a bit of a "need to catch my breath and recover" mode.

What is really funny to me is how many people laughed at the prospect of Trump winning. All the way up until the end. Yet there were some who didn't doubt the possibility at all and yet even a few that predicted early on that he would go all the way. I can't say that I knew he would win but I never doubted the possibility. Couple that with my belief that America was NEVER going to elect Hillary and I guess I had more confidence in the outcome than most.

It's politics folks not the end of the world. Believe it or not most conservatives actually survived the Obama years. Trust me, most conservatives thought way less of his abilities and policies than liberals do of Trumps. I know.... your laughing now but it is true. Because unlike Trump who has succeeded at many things, Obama had not. You too will survive the Trump years. All 12 of them
Name the "many things" trump has succeeded at?. he's a bullsh!t artist and YOU, and many other suckers fell for it.
OK you called me sucker and suggested that I am simple yet you are not aware of Trumps successes? Wow! He has been very successful in business, he has been successfull in entertainment, earned a lot of money doing both. He helped a whole lot of people along the way. He beat 16 very qualified candidates in the Republican primary and one hugely unqualified candidate that had a lot of campaign money & political clout in the general election. I don't know how you measure success but to suggest he has not had any would be foolish.
Being a real estate robber baron does not qualify you to be president, running a scam university does not make you a success, not paying your bills, stiffing contractors , makes you a scumbag. this guy is a P.O.S. super sized, and a sh!tty leader. congratulations, YOU helped elect a nazi loving, orange clown.
And I am sure you are WAY more successful than he has ever been. Seems you are particularly good at name calling. So congratulations back at you.
If I started out in life with $200 million from daddy [like trump], I would have been more successful, I started out with nothing and built a decent life thanks to a union job. Read up about your hero: http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-trump-approval-rating-unfit-quinnipiac- tweet-twitter-2017-9


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  posted on 9/29/2017 at 12:00 PM
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Some even seemed a bit angry, way more so than I expected. Why you chose not to believe that is a mystery to me.


Go back and read your initial responses after you posted the whiny letter. It's riddled with derogatory statements about Liberals and "their b.s." You already revealed your low opinion of the left. You intended to ruffle feathers, as you say. You want me to believe you were shocked and surprised at the level of ruffling that you claim to be able to determine through the writing of people you never met? Please.

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Exactly!! And most of those 18 are considered to be part of the establishment and just as much a part of the problem as Obama was!!! Hence the election of the outsider Donald Trump. You may be catching on and not even realize it. Good for you!


If it's solely about being an outsider, then why didn't Ben Carson or Fiorina stand a chance? You wish it was that simple - it's so much more comfortable to push that line, isn't it.

 

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I am as serious as a heart attack here. I expected the article would mildly ruffle a few feathers, nothing more.


You may think you've triggered a bunch of libtard snowflakes, but, you're giving yourself too much credit.
Are you an angry white man? If so, according to the media you may be rooting for the wrong side.


I'm not angry at all, at least, not as angry as you and Paul Genova.

 

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IF you read the posts carefully and NOT follow your instinct to try to distort the intended meaning you probably would find you don't disagree with near as many people on near as many things as you think you do.


Ah, that's it. It's the liberals that need to come to terms with the peace, love and bunnies that the right offers.

Let's be realistic. Red Hates Blue. Blue Hates Red. Ain't changing.

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you attacked our freedom of speech
you attacked our right to bear arms
you attacked our Christian beliefs
you constantly referred to us as racists
you constantly called us xenophobic
you told us to get on board or get out of the way
you attacked our flag
you took God out of our schools
you confused women's rights with feminism
you began to emasculate men
you decided to make our children soft
you decided to vote for progressive ideals
you attacked our way of life
you decided to let our government get out of control
you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers
you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors
you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country
you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem
you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating


Hard to distort that. Pretty clear.

 

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Some even seemed a bit angry, way more so than I expected. Why you chose not to believe that is a mystery to me.


Go back and read your initial responses after you posted the whiny letter. It's riddled with derogatory statements about Liberals and "their b.s." You already revealed your low opinion of the left. You intended to ruffle feathers, as you say. You want me to believe you were shocked and surprised at the level of ruffling that you claim to be able to determine through the writing of people you never met? Please.

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Exactly!! And most of those 18 are considered to be part of the establishment and just as much a part of the problem as Obama was!!! Hence the election of the outsider Donald Trump. You may be catching on and not even realize it. Good for you!


If it's solely about being an outsider, then why didn't Ben Carson or Fiorina stand a chance? You wish it was that simple - it's so much more comfortable to push that line, isn't it.
No, its about being a lying scumbag, and lots of gullible people falling for it, be it: "racism" "ignorance" "stupidity" or all of the above.

 

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IF you read the posts carefully and NOT follow your instinct to try to distort the intended meaning you probably would find you don't disagree with near as many people on near as many things as you think you do.


Ah, that's it. It's the liberals that need to come to terms with the peace, love and bunnies that the right offers.

Let's be realistic. Red Hates Blue. Blue Hates Red. Ain't changing.

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you attacked our freedom of speech
you attacked our right to bear arms
you attacked our Christian beliefs
you constantly referred to us as racists
you constantly called us xenophobic
you told us to get on board or get out of the way
you attacked our flag
you took God out of our schools
you confused women's rights with feminism
you began to emasculate men
you decided to make our children soft
you decided to vote for progressive ideals
you attacked our way of life
you decided to let our government get out of control
you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers
you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors
you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country
you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem
you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating


Hard to distort that. Pretty clear.


So the answer was DT....too funny....and very sad....Seem like all the rhetoric about racism and xenophobes has been escalated...not stopped due to to your vote....much worst than it was before as all aspects of our life under your vote...seriously you actually though DT was anything but a carnival barker says how little you actually think about the seriousness of your vote

 

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If it's solely about being an outsider, then why didn't Ben Carson or Fiorina stand a chance?
They did a lot better than Jeb, the establishment favorite.

And I don't have a problem with liberals at all. They are everywhere. Lots of my friends. I have a problem with liberals who think your are racist (or whatever) because they don't share your opinions. Those I am not friends with. Perhaps YOU should go back and read all of the posts.

 

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Hard to distort that. Pretty clear.
That is exactly what I thought when I posted it. But it's cool. We can talk about this forever. It wouldn't the first time I was involved with a thread that went a zillion pages.

 

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No, its about being a lying scumbag, and lots of gullible people falling for it, be it: "racism" "ignorance" "stupidity" or all of the above.
There ya go Pops, keep calling him names, soon everyone will believe it.

 

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So the answer was DT....too funny....and very sad....Seem like all the rhetoric about racism and xenophobes has been escalated...not stopped due to to your vote....much worst than it was before as all aspects of our life under your vote...
Yes and it was getting SO much better under Obama right...? He NEVER stirred the pot... right?

 

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We are wasting valuable time. Please self-administer your blue pills, return to the hive mind and let us go forth and continue to execute our agenda.

I suggest Boynton, you emasculate KCJimmy's men, pops42, you get back to taking God out of KCJimmy's schools, jkeller you are assigned to the softening of KCJimmy's children. For my part I will work on fine-tuning my confusion of womens' rights with feminism.



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I'm getting a headache just trying to sort out who said what.

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxITADfhXnk

Please watch ....Seem Trump could learn a bit from the Air Force as well as you who wish to go forward thinking people of another color, gender, religion or country are your problem....As usual your problem is most likely in the mirror

 

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More like...

"You created "us" when you let black people into major league baseball.

You created "us" when you let a black man be a head basketball coach.

You created "us" when you let a black man be a quarterback.

You created "us" when I had to hear rap music on my TV commercials.

You created "us" when there was a gay character on my sitcom.

You created "us" when Barack Obama became president and we suddenly became interested in politics / patriotism because the one taboo that all our racist uncles had told "us" would never be broken, had been. "Us" was super-pissed!

So "us" voted for someone who would make "you" just as pissed.

That is where the thought process stopped.

"Us" did not care if the president "us " elected had no clue how to do the job at all.

"Us" did not care if he acted like a child or an idiot, "us" would find ways to explain how clever and intelligent he was being."









 

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More like...

"You created "us" when you let black people into major league baseball.

You created "us" when you let a black man be a head basketball coach.

You created "us" when you let a black man be a quarterback.

You created "us" when I had to hear rap music on my TV commercials.

You created "us" when there was a gay character on my sitcom.

You created "us" when Barack Obama became president and we suddenly became interested in politics / patriotism because the one taboo that all our racist uncles had told "us" would never be broken, had been. "Us" was super-pissed!

So "us" voted for someone who would make "you" just as pissed.

That is where the thought process stopped.

"Us" did not care if the president "us " elected had no clue how to do the job at all.

"Us" did not care if he acted like a child or an idiot, "us" would find ways to explain how clever and intelligent he was being."
You sound like an angry white guy.

 

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They did a lot better than Jeb, the establishment favorite.


KC, instead of replying to easy softballs, how about answering my question instead of this side-step above? Carson and Fiorina may have done better than Jeb, but it doesn't address the landslide disparity in popularity between Trump and the other 2 outsiders. I'll ask again - why do you think that is?

 

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I think it was because the majority of those that voted republican thought he would do a better job than those two. What do you believe?

 

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  posted on 10/2/2017 at 11:55 AM
He'd be better? Still dodging - why did they believe he'd be better? I'll gladly outline my theory - just curious to hear your's first.
 
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