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  posted on 8/28/2017 at 05:58 AM
http://www.saratogian.com/opinion/20170826/ruben-navarette-america-has-beco me-a-nation-of-victims



The motto of the United States is no longer “e pluribus unum.” Sadly, it’s become: “Hey! I was wronged. Get my lawyer on the phone!”

Or, recently, south of the Mason-Dixon line: “Let’s grab clubs and tiki torches and go make trouble.”

America has become a nation of victims. The same people who, a decade ago, might have scoffed at the idea that others were being victimized by societal norms, generational poverty and institutional racism have now themselves joined the pity party and donned the cloak of victimhood. Nursing a grudge is not just for minorities anymore.

Conservative white males have gotten in on the act, as they rail against globalization, corporate greed, immigration, political correctness, the anti-Confederate statue lobby, affirmative action, and the man in the moon.


Those who for years shrugged off the notion that there was lingering racial and ethnic discrimination against Latinos and African-Americans now insist that there is rampant “reverse discrimination” against white people.

As they often do, politicians make the situation worse by giving people easy outs. And these days, as always, many people are glad to have excuses for their failures, setbacks and shortcomings. The bad guys are the banks, the rich, the corporations, the immigrants, the global market.

Victim anthems have been penned by Bruce Springsteen who, in concert, has introduced his haunting ballad “Youngstown” -- about the battered town in Northeast Ohio -- as a story about “losing everything even when you work hard and play by the rules.”

A couple of generations ago, Americans survived tough times by hustling, believing in themselves and working harder. Today, this is the pep talk for the downtrodden: “Lost your job? The culprit is a racial quota or greedy boss or foreign worker. You’re a victim.”

That’s a major takeaway from recent horrible events in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Hundreds of young white men who, intoxicated by a cocktail of entitlement and white privilege, expected to be running the country by now, instead feel as if the country is running over them. They worry that a society that pushes diversity, espouses liberalism, and worships at the altar of political correctness doesn’t have any room for them. And the last thing they want to do is look in the mirror and take responsibility for their own lives.

So they picked up torches, and marched, and shouted: “You will not replace us. Jews will not replace us.”

This rank bigotry and anti-Semitism made other people feel victimized because they somehow thought they had a right to go through life without ever being offended by anything. The offended staged counterprotests, which made the original protesters feel victimized as if their right to free speech were being violated. And so on.

The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave is now the Land of the Aggrieved and the Home of the Picked On.

This transformation is much more important than the question that captivates the attention of the left and the media (as if there were a difference at this point). Do we have a white supremacist in the White House?

A lot of my Latino and African-American friends are convinced we do. But I think they’re wrong. What do they know? Some of them said the same thing about every Republican president since Ronald Reagan while turning a blind eye to outright racists in the Democratic Party. Also, Donald Trump has been in the public eye for more than 30 years -- donating money to civil rights groups, posing for pictures with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and supporting Democrats. I personally never heard anyone say he was a racist or white supremacist until he became a Republican. That smells fishy.

Besides, Trump’s presidency has an expiration date. In a few years, we’ll wake up from this national nightmare.

It’s the culture of victimhood that Americans should really be worried about. It wasn’t just Trump, white supremacists, the media, local police, and activists on the militant left who emerged from the Charlottesville fiasco with their reputations sullied. The American spirit also took a terrible beating.

When did the greatest country on Earth stop being a place where people -- with nothing but hunger for a second chance -- could come to work hard and build a new life? When did it become a place where everyone pushes their own set of grievances?

As an American, none of this makes sense. I thought we were made from heartier stock.

 

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  posted on 8/28/2017 at 08:44 AM
Trump loves to play the victim card http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/trump-arizona-victim/index.html
 

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The motto of the United States is no longer “e pluribus unum.” Sadly, it’s become: “Hey! I was wronged. Get my lawyer on the phone!”

Or, recently, south of the Mason-Dixon line: “Let’s grab clubs and tiki torches and go make trouble.”

America has become a nation of victims. The same people who, a decade ago, might have scoffed at the idea that others were being victimized by societal norms, generational poverty and institutional racism have now themselves joined the pity party and donned the cloak of victimhood. Nursing a grudge is not just for minorities anymore.

Conservative white males have gotten in on the act, as they rail against globalization, corporate greed, immigration, political correctness, the anti-Confederate statue lobby, affirmative action, and the man in the moon.


Those who for years shrugged off the notion that there was lingering racial and ethnic discrimination against Latinos and African-Americans now insist that there is rampant “reverse discrimination” against white people.

As they often do, politicians make the situation worse by giving people easy outs. And these days, as always, many people are glad to have excuses for their failures, setbacks and shortcomings. The bad guys are the banks, the rich, the corporations, the immigrants, the global market.

Victim anthems have been penned by Bruce Springsteen who, in concert, has introduced his haunting ballad “Youngstown” -- about the battered town in Northeast Ohio -- as a story about “losing everything even when you work hard and play by the rules.”

A couple of generations ago, Americans survived tough times by hustling, believing in themselves and working harder. Today, this is the pep talk for the downtrodden: “Lost your job? The culprit is a racial quota or greedy boss or foreign worker. You’re a victim.”

That’s a major takeaway from recent horrible events in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Hundreds of young white men who, intoxicated by a cocktail of entitlement and white privilege, expected to be running the country by now, instead feel as if the country is running over them. They worry that a society that pushes diversity, espouses liberalism, and worships at the altar of political correctness doesn’t have any room for them. And the last thing they want to do is look in the mirror and take responsibility for their own lives.

So they picked up torches, and marched, and shouted: “You will not replace us. Jews will not replace us.”

This rank bigotry and anti-Semitism made other people feel victimized because they somehow thought they had a right to go through life without ever being offended by anything. The offended staged counterprotests, which made the original protesters feel victimized as if their right to free speech were being violated. And so on.

The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave is now the Land of the Aggrieved and the Home of the Picked On.

This transformation is much more important than the question that captivates the attention of the left and the media (as if there were a difference at this point). Do we have a white supremacist in the White House?

A lot of my Latino and African-American friends are convinced we do. But I think they’re wrong. What do they know? Some of them said the same thing about every Republican president since Ronald Reagan while turning a blind eye to outright racists in the Democratic Party. Also, Donald Trump has been in the public eye for more than 30 years -- donating money to civil rights groups, posing for pictures with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and supporting Democrats. I personally never heard anyone say he was a racist or white supremacist until he became a Republican. That smells fishy.

Besides, Trump’s presidency has an expiration date. In a few years, we’ll wake up from this national nightmare.

It’s the culture of victimhood that Americans should really be worried about. It wasn’t just Trump, white supremacists, the media, local police, and activists on the militant left who emerged from the Charlottesville fiasco with their reputations sullied. The American spirit also took a terrible beating.

When did the greatest country on Earth stop being a place where people -- with nothing but hunger for a second chance -- could come to work hard and build a new life? When did it become a place where everyone pushes their own set of grievances?

As an American, none of this makes sense. I thought we were made from heartier stock.



Tidy little op-ed shrug off of complex issues that are having real consequences. Smug punk sounds like a liberal Archie Bunker, self-satisfied hipster Starbucks dimbulb trying to crank out a column five minutes before deadline.

I suppose if we just write off all conflict to victimhood then we don't have to concern ourselves with it any more.

Wounded Knee, Indian Reservation apartheid? Get over it crybaby.

Slavery and legacy of institutionalized racism? C'mon man, don't look back you're made of better stuff than that.

Wholesale sellout of American economy to GloboCorp? Waaaah. Just suck it up and whistle while you work at McDonalds.



[Edited on 8/28/2017 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 8/29/2017 at 06:55 AM
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http://www.saratogian.com/opinion/20170826/ruben-navarette-amer ica-has-beco me-a-nation-of-victims



The motto of the United States is no longer “e pluribus unum.” Sadly, it’s become: “Hey! I was wronged. Get my lawyer on the phone!”

Or, recently, south of the Mason-Dixon line: “Let’s grab clubs and tiki torches and go make trouble.”

America has become a nation of victims. The same people who, a decade ago, might have scoffed at the idea that others were being victimized by societal norms, generational poverty and institutional racism have now themselves joined the pity party and donned the cloak of victimhood. Nursing a grudge is not just for minorities anymore.

Conservative white males have gotten in on the act, as they rail against globalization, corporate greed, immigration, political correctness, the anti-Confederate statue lobby, affirmative action, and the man in the moon.


Those who for years shrugged off the notion that there was lingering racial and ethnic discrimination against Latinos and African-Americans now insist that there is rampant “reverse discrimination” against white people.

As they often do, politicians make the situation worse by giving people easy outs. And these days, as always, many people are glad to have excuses for their failures, setbacks and shortcomings. The bad guys are the banks, the rich, the corporations, the immigrants, the global market.

Victim anthems have been penned by Bruce Springsteen who, in concert, has introduced his haunting ballad “Youngstown” -- about the battered town in Northeast Ohio -- as a story about “losing everything even when you work hard and play by the rules.”

A couple of generations ago, Americans survived tough times by hustling, believing in themselves and working harder. Today, this is the pep talk for the downtrodden: “Lost your job? The culprit is a racial quota or greedy boss or foreign worker. You’re a victim.”

That’s a major takeaway from recent horrible events in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Hundreds of young white men who, intoxicated by a cocktail of entitlement and white privilege, expected to be running the country by now, instead feel as if the country is running over them. They worry that a society that pushes diversity, espouses liberalism, and worships at the altar of political correctness doesn’t have any room for them. And the last thing they want to do is look in the mirror and take responsibility for their own lives.

So they picked up torches, and marched, and shouted: “You will not replace us. Jews will not replace us.”

This rank bigotry and anti-Semitism made other people feel victimized because they somehow thought they had a right to go through life without ever being offended by anything. The offended staged counterprotests, which made the original protesters feel victimized as if their right to free speech were being violated. And so on.

The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave is now the Land of the Aggrieved and the Home of the Picked On.

This transformation is much more important than the question that captivates the attention of the left and the media (as if there were a difference at this point). Do we have a white supremacist in the White House?

A lot of my Latino and African-American friends are convinced we do. But I think they’re wrong. What do they know? Some of them said the same thing about every Republican president since Ronald Reagan while turning a blind eye to outright racists in the Democratic Party. Also, Donald Trump has been in the public eye for more than 30 years -- donating money to civil rights groups, posing for pictures with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and supporting Democrats. I personally never heard anyone say he was a racist or white supremacist until he became a Republican. That smells fishy.

Besides, Trump’s presidency has an expiration date. In a few years, we’ll wake up from this national nightmare.

It’s the culture of victimhood that Americans should really be worried about. It wasn’t just Trump, white supremacists, the media, local police, and activists on the militant left who emerged from the Charlottesville fiasco with their reputations sullied. The American spirit also took a terrible beating.

When did the greatest country on Earth stop being a place where people -- with nothing but hunger for a second chance -- could come to work hard and build a new life? When did it become a place where everyone pushes their own set of grievances?

As an American, none of this makes sense. I thought we were made from heartier stock.



Tidy little op-ed shrug off of complex issues that are having real consequences. Smug punk sounds like a liberal Archie Bunker, self-satisfied hipster Starbucks dimbulb trying to crank out a column five minutes before deadline.

I suppose if we just write off all conflict to victimhood then we don't have to concern ourselves with it any more.

Wounded Knee, Indian Reservation apartheid? Get over it crybaby.

Slavery and legacy of institutionalized racism? C'mon man, don't look back you're made of better stuff than that.

Wholesale sellout of American economy to GloboCorp? Waaaah. Just suck it up and whistle while you work at McDonalds.



[Edited on 8/28/2017 by BrerRabbit]


Its an opinion piece, don't get your blood pressure up to much.

 

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  posted on 8/29/2017 at 10:42 AM
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Its an opinion piece, don't get your blood pressure up to much


Noted that in first line of my reply. I really don't care. I have the lowest blood pressure of anyone I know . What got me wasn't evn the content of the article, but the tone. Can't stand wishwashy equivocating smug ignorance.

 

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  posted on 8/30/2017 at 12:55 PM
Not too different from the left's "“Hey! I was offended. You are a wrong and mean!”

Or better yet "I preach tolerance"!....Unless we disagree and then you are a ....

A) Homophobe
B) Racist
C) Bigot
D) Misogynist
E) The "politically correct" All of the above

"But see, all of this could have been avoided if you had just agreed with my viewpoint on tolerance being a one way street... because I am extremely intolerant of those who disagree with me"

 

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  posted on 8/30/2017 at 04:26 PM
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Not too different from the left's "“Hey! I was offended. You are a wrong and mean!”

Or better yet "I preach tolerance"!....Unless we disagree and then you are a ....

A) Homophobe
B) Racist
C) Bigot
D) Misogynist
E) The "politically correct" All of the above

"But see, all of this could have been avoided if you had just agreed with my viewpoint on tolerance being a one way street... because I am extremely intolerant of those who disagree with me"


So you're saying homophobes, racists, bigots and misogynist are victims and we should be more tolerant of them?

 

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  posted on 8/31/2017 at 09:26 PM
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Not too different from the left's "“Hey! I was offended. You are a wrong and mean!”

Or better yet "I preach tolerance"!....Unless we disagree and then you are a ....

A) Homophobe
B) Racist
C) Bigot
D) Misogynist
E) The "politically correct" All of the above

"But see, all of this could have been avoided if you had just agreed with my viewpoint on tolerance being a one way street... because I am extremely intolerant of those who disagree with me"


So you're saying homophobes, racists, bigots and misogynist are victims and we should be more tolerant of them?


I think the point is that he hates the left more than all of those listed.

 

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  posted on 8/31/2017 at 09:52 PM
Why are conservatives always trying prove how liberal they are?
 

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  posted on 8/31/2017 at 11:31 PM
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Not too different from the left's "“Hey! I was offended. You are a wrong and mean!”

Or better yet "I preach tolerance"!....Unless we disagree and then you are a ....

A) Homophobe
B) Racist
C) Bigot
D) Misogynist
E) The "politically correct" All of the above

"But see, all of this could have been avoided if you had just agreed with my viewpoint on tolerance being a one way street... because I am extremely intolerant of those who disagree with me"


So you're saying homophobes, racists, bigots and misogynist are victims and we should be more tolerant of them?


Not at all. What I am inferring is that if you dare state an opinion that does not fit the left's agenda, you will be placed in one of these categories.

 

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  posted on 9/1/2017 at 12:31 AM
So because I don't agree with your generalization, but don't feel an impulse to categorize you as one or all of the above, does that make me a rightwinger?

The only time I ever think people are those things is when they say or do things that make it pretty clear that is what they are.

Then for some weird reason they get all defensive about it. If someone is a homophobic racist bigot misogynist then why does it bug them when people point it out?

 

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The only time I ever think people are those things is when they say or do things that make it pretty clear that is what they are.


To you.....

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If someone is a homophobic racist bigot misogynist then why does it bug them when people point it out?


Because it is based on the left's definition of the above "offenses"....

Don't want to bake a cake for a Gay couple for religious reasons?...Homophobe!

Wear a Golf shirt commemorating Gettysburg and you are a racist!

Wear a "Make America great again" hat and you are a bigot!

 

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  posted on 9/1/2017 at 09:11 PM
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To you....


Saw that coming. You are right. These things are relative. What it boils down to is whether people have the self-reflection skill to recognize the programming in themselves.I have found that sometimes the most obvious racists have no clue they are like that.

 

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To you....


Saw that coming. You are right. These things are relative. What it boils down to is whether people have the self-reflection skill to recognize the programming in themselves.I have found that sometimes the most obvious racists have no clue they are like that.



If you have ever started a sentence with "I'm not racist but....", you are most certainly a racist.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2017 at 10:42 AM
Truth, seen. Case in point, from the OP Nation of Victims article:

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A lot of my Latino and African-American friends ...


The defensive inhale puffing up for the racist exhale.

 

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To you....


Saw that coming. You are right. These things are relative. What it boils down to is whether people have the self-reflection skill to recognize the programming in themselves.I have found that sometimes the most obvious racists have no clue they are like that.


Or they do not respect the same markers that those who are so quick to label identify with.

I don't like rap and I believe those who disrespect the Flag (Colin K) could find other ways to show their disapproval....

Depending on who is doing the judging.....

 

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  posted on 9/3/2017 at 01:33 PM
Congrats, man, you just proved racism doesn't exist! There are no absolutes, so poof! Gone with the wind!

What is there to judge, when there is no definite point where racism can be called out? Since after all one person's racism is another person's expression of compassion and tolerance.

Like Gina saying blacks are less intellgent, or Muleski ripping up liberals and accusing them of black genocide. They aren't racist, they have the best interests of humanity at heart.

Not real sure where the dislike of rap factors in. I can't see anyone viewing that as racist.

Kidding of course. Like I said, at some point you just have to deal with this in yourself, as external definition is more about fingerpointing and denial , doesn't really help.

 

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What is there to judge, when there is no definite point where racism can be called out? Since after all one person's racism is another person's expression of compassion and tolerance.


Pretty close.

"Compassion and tolerance"... A total and individual choice....

And btw, I believe "Tolerance" is a two way street.

 

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  posted on 9/5/2017 at 02:14 PM
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Not too different from the left


If you understand that both sides are similar in that regard, why do we only see your griping about "the left"?

 
 


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