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  posted on 8/15/2017 at 06:47 PM
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Two more executives quit Trump's council
Moments after President Trump's off-the-rails news conference, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and Thea Lee are the fifth and sixth top business leaders to quit Trump's manufacturing council. Scott Paul of Alliance for American Manufacturing, Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier, Under Armour CEO Kevin Plank and Intel CEO Brian Krzanich all quit the presidential manufacturing council after Trump took two days to denounce white supremacy.


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http://www.salon.com/ 2017/08/14/trump-attacks-black-ceo-who-resigned-from-white-house-council-ov er-response-to-charlottesville-protests/

MONDAY, AUG 14, 2017 09:56 AM -0400
Trump attacks black CEO who resigned from White House council over response to Charlottesville protests
Kenneth Frazier resigned from Trump's American Manufacturing Council after he felt Trump failed to denounce racism
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It took President Donald Trump less than an hour to criticize Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier for resigning Monday from the White House’s American Manufacturing Council. Meanwhile, it’s been two days since white nationalists and neo-Nazis overtook a college town in Virginia, and Trump has yet to publicly condemn them.

Frazier, an African-American, announced on Twitter Monday that it was Trump’s inadequate response to Charlottesville that forced him to resign from the president’s council.

“Our country’s strength stems from its diversity and the contributions made by men and women of different faiths, races, sexual orientations and political beliefs,” Frazier said in a statement. “America’s leaders must honor our fundamental values by clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry and group supremacy, which run counter to the American ideal that all people are created equal.”

“As CEO of Merck and as a matter of personal conscience, I feel a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism,” Frazier added.

Trump wasted little time Monday to hit back at Frazier for his moral stance.

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So he resigned in protest of people protesting?


Are you really this dense? Actually…there is plenty of evidence that you are - I withdraw the question.


Really? I think you're the one dense here. The guy quit over Trumps' response to the violence in Charlotteville.
The violence in C'ville started when a group of white people gathered to protest the removal of a statue of RE Lee. Counter protesters came onto the scene trying to stop the first group from exercising their 1st amendment rights to protest, the same right as anyone else.
A person (James Alex Fields, Jr) ran a car into the counter protesters (note: four blocks from the rally), killing one and injuring 19 others.
The female killed in the incident (Heather Heyer) is now being canonized as a hero for free speech.
Unrelated, two state troopers died in a helicopter crash.
The two sides continued to meet and fight until at the end 3 people were reported as dead and 34 injured.

Those who came to protest (a constitutional right) the removal of the statue are reviled.
Those who came to stop them from protesting ( a violation of their constitutional rights) are glorified.
The violence during the protests is being blamed on the protesters, the ones fighting the protesters are being praised.
Both sides are critical of the police response during the protests and have filed complaints.

Many of the posters on this site who are criticizing those protesting the removal of the statue, and have no problem with trying to throttle their freedom of speech, don't criticize the violence of the counter protesters

Those protesting the removal of the statue had as much right to their protest and freedom of speech as does a football player who chooses to sit or kneel during the national anthem.
If you are against one group protesting, you have to be against all groups protesting.

I'm not minimizing the violence or supportive of it.

The fact is that the guy quit in protest over Trump's response to the protestors.





So, to you, the Nazis were just some guys who like a statue and wanted to voice their opinions?


Mack, you must be really dense or can't read above a third grade level if you don't understand enough of what I posted to come up with a comment like that.

it makes me believe that you don't believe in the right of protest.
It was a gathering of HATE GROUPS: Neo nazi, Klan, and other white supremacist scumbags. I guess YOU think thats just fine and dandy, like trump.


So you think that only people you agree with have the right to protest??


Again, you characterize an invasion of an American city by armed Nazis and Klansmen chanting, burning torches, murdering and maiming as a mere "protest" and "disagreement". Clearly you are a sympathizer. I'd say you should be ashamed but it seems that you, like Trump, are incapable of it and in fact feel justified because the terror was committed by those with whom you sympathize. I guess Adolf and Forrest just had a point of view.


Your total lack of reading comprehension amazes me. Your parents need to get a refund from your local school district.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2017 at 08:34 PM
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Those who came to protest (a constitutional right) the removal of the statue are reviled.
Those who came to stop them from protesting ( a violation of their constitutional rights) are glorified.
The violence during the protests is being blamed on the protesters, the ones fighting the protesters are being praised.
Both sides are critical of the police response during the protests and have filed complaints.

Many of the posters on this site who are criticizing those protesting the removal of the statue, and have no problem with trying to throttle their freedom of speech, don't criticize the violence of the counter protesters




This is where you went off the rails. It is ok by you to protest a statue being removed (constitutional), but a protest against hate is somehow a violation of the constitution? They didn't come to stop them from protesting..... they came to also express their opinion - against hate and the the KKK. I think you need to think about it some more and take off your blinders......





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  posted on 8/15/2017 at 08:45 PM
Group A hates due to their belief system and Group B says it's wrong. Then Group B hates Group A due their belief system and their hate is okay? I don't get it.

Hate is hate and it is wrong<--IMHO

 

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  posted on 8/15/2017 at 08:55 PM

Hate Group B = X + MSM > Truth

 

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  posted on 8/15/2017 at 09:16 PM
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Hate Group B = X + MSM > Truth


So you support the Nazis and the alt-right? They are OK in your book? Fine people, right?

Keep in mind, a woman was killed and 19 others were injured by a member of the hate group. T

You need to get over blaming the media for everything that yiu don't like. It is weak and disingenuous.

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Group A hates due to their belief system and Group B says it's wrong. Then Group B hates Group A due their belief system and their hate is okay? I don't get it.

Hate is hate and it is wrong<--IMHO


There was a little thing called World War II. Perhaps you heard of it. There was a man called Adolf Hitler and there was a Nazi Party. Perhaps you heard of them. There was a thing called the Holocaust in which millions were rounded up and murdered because white supremacists thought they were inferior. Perhaps you heard of it. There was a domestic terrorist organization called the Ku Klux Klan which was comprised of American white supremacists. Perhaps you heard of them - they drive muscle cars into pedestrians, they're alive and well today and just killed a woman. They conducted a reign of terror against blacks and Jews which continues today. Perhaps you heard of this. They arose out of an America in which blacks were legally enslaved and treated like cattle. Perhaps you heard of slavery in the United States. They used to wear sheets and hoods to conceal their identities - they don't need to anymore because the abomination who stains the White House is their friend and actually employs them to advise him. Now they wear suits and ties and occasionally hold public office.

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 07:40 AM
I would ask if this helps you "get it" but I don't hold out much hope. If you don't understand the depth of abhorrence, revulsion and outrage Nazism, fascism, the Klan and white supremacy can and should inspire, then there are pieces missing.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 08:36 AM
I think this thread is a good example of why we can't get anywhere. We have to stop pretending that "protesting" can only mean a positive act of patriotism. It's also other things. I fully respect any peaceful protest or protester, but let's stop fooling ourselves that they are used only for that reason. They are also outlets and platforms for people to release their most passionate emotions - why else take the time to plan and attend? And now, some are just places where people go who want to fight, verbally and physically. Yes, these neo nazis should be eradicated, but an angry mob chasing them out in a hostile manner is not the answer - it's not what Obama would've wanted from the left. He would've wanted a better strategy for countering them - something that didn't involve fighting.
 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 09:00 AM
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Those who came to protest (a constitutional right) the removal of the statue are reviled.
Those who came to stop them from protesting ( a violation of their constitutional rights) are glorified.
The violence during the protests is being blamed on the protesters, the ones fighting the protesters are being praised.
Both sides are critical of the police response during the protests and have filed complaints.

Many of the posters on this site who are criticizing those protesting the removal of the statue, and have no problem with trying to throttle their freedom of speech, don't criticize the violence of the counter protesters




This is where you went off the rails. It is ok by you to protest a statue being removed (constitutional), but a protest against hate is somehow a violation of the constitution? They didn't come to stop them from protesting..... they came to also express their opinion - against hate and the the KKK. I think you need to think about it some more and take off your blinders......





[Edited on 8/16/2017 by Sang]


Just exactly where did I go off the rails in the original post?

I have noticed on all the posts responding to the original that no one has bothered to include in their quotes the line
"I'M NOT MINIMIZING THE VIOLENCE OR SUPPORTIVE OF IT."

Some of the posters need to get their heads on correctly and READ what is posted rather than "kneejerking" to it.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 09:38 AM
I think everyone there wanted to fight each other. I think ignoring the Nazis as if they don't exist would've been a more powerful response. Then Trump would've been backed into a corner to call them the losers they they are. Instead, the fighting gave Trump all the ammo he needed to bash the left. That's why Obama always preached to rise above that low level garbage.
 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 09:42 AM
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I think everyone there wanted to fight each other. I think ignoring the Nazis as if they don't exist would've been a more powerful response. Then Trump would've been backed into a corner to call them the losers they they are. Instead, the fighting gave Trump all the ammo he needed to bash the left. That's why Obama always preached to rise above that low level garbage.


Ignoring Nazis was already tried in Germany in the 1930s.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 09:57 AM
I'm just looking for the best way to defeat these animals. And to be clear, in no way am I agreeing with Trump that there is blame on both sides. The blame falls on the scum who don't belong in the US, and Trump's recklessness failed to make that point. I'm merely wishing the good guys had a better strategy, but they didn't because they let their emotions get the best of them. Trump should've communicated something to that affect instead of the embarrassment we saw yesterday from him.
 

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Those who came to protest (a constitutional right) the removal of the statue are reviled.
Those who came to stop them from protesting ( a violation of their constitutional rights) are glorified.
The violence during the protests is being blamed on the protesters, the ones fighting the protesters are being praised.
Both sides are critical of the police response during the protests and have filed complaints.

Many of the posters on this site who are criticizing those protesting the removal of the statue, and have no problem with trying to throttle their freedom of speech, don't criticize the violence of the counter protesters




This is where you went off the rails. It is ok by you to protest a statue being removed (constitutional), but a protest against hate is somehow a violation of the constitution? They didn't come to stop them from protesting..... they came to also express their opinion - against hate and the the KKK. I think you need to think about it some more and take off your blinders......





[Edited on 8/16/2017 by Sang]


Just exactly where did I go off the rails in the original post?

I have noticed on all the posts responding to the original that no one has bothered to include in their quotes the line
"I'M NOT MINIMIZING THE VIOLENCE OR SUPPORTIVE OF IT."

Some of the posters need to get their heads on correctly and READ what is posted rather than "kneejerking" to it.





So those weren't your words where you thought protesting the removal of the statue was their constitutional right (which it was) but protesting against them was also not a constitutional right? Instead, you called it "a violation of their constitutional right" - meaning you only think it is a right if you agree with it...... Really not that hard to understand.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 11:50 AM
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Group A hates due to their belief system and Group B says it's wrong. Then Group B hates Group A due their belief system and their hate is okay? I don't get it.

Hate is hate and it is wrong<--IMHO


I hate Nazis. You know, that whole genocide thing. I don't care if you get it or not.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 12:19 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/16/news/trump-manufacturing-council-ceos/index .html

Campbell Soup CEO latest to quit Trump council
by Jill Disis @jdisis
August 16, 2017: 1:06 PM ET

The CEO of Campbell Soup Co. became the latest CEO Wednesday to walk away from President Trump.
"Racism and murder are unequivocally reprehensible and are not morally equivalent to anything else that happened in Charlottesville," CEO Denise Morrison said. "I believe the President should have been -- and still needs to be -- unambiguous on that point."
The company had said just two days earlier said she would stay in the council.
Less than an hour earlier, Inge Thulin, the chief executive of 3M, quit Trump's manufacturing council.
"I joined the Manufacturing Jobs Initiative in January to advocate for policies that align with our values and encourage even stronger investment and job growth," Thulin said in a statement. "After careful consideration, I believe the initiative is no longer an effective vehicle for 3M to advance these goals."
They follow the CEOs of Merck, Under Armour and Intel, two leaders of the AFL-CIO and the president of a manufacturing industry group. Grassroots organizations are pressuring other CEOs to follow them out the door.
The AFL-CIO officials quit the council late Tuesday, after a staggering press conference in which the president said that "very fine people" were mixed in with neo-Nazis in Charlottesville.
"I cannot sit on a council for a President that tolerates bigotry and domestic terrorism," said Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO.
Sixteen other members of the manufacturing council either have told CNNMoney that they will stay or have not answered a request for comment. Trump set up the council in January to hear their advice on revitalizing American manufacturing, a focus of his campaign.
Among those who have said they will stay on, some have argued that it is valuable to have a seat at the table as the government shapes policy that could affect their companies and employees.
In that group are top talent from Dow Chemical, Nuco, Whirlpool, International Paper, Boeing and Newell Brands.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 12:44 PM
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You dare characterize this as "Protest"? Hundreds of armed Nazis march openly in an American city, carrying torches, chanting "Blood and Soil" and evoking centuries of slavery, oppression and murder over skin color, one of whom uses a muscle car to slaughter and maim - not bottles, not piss balloons or spray cans but several tons of metal at high speeds, and you believe both sides are to be condemned equally, as does that putrid megalomaniac befouling the Oval Office. Says a lot. Sort of like…you sympathize.

[Edited on 8/15/2017 by rmack]

[Edited on 8/15/2017 by rmack]


You're right, a bunch of white supremacists attacked a group of peace loving pacifists singing kumbaya. Must of missed that part in the 20 videos I looked at. Stupid me.
Your last two words are "spot on"

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 12:49 PM
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"It was a gathering of HATE GROUPS: Neo nazi, Klan, and other white supremacist scumbags. I guess YOU think thats just fine and dandy, like trump."

Pops, I agree with you until I noticed you only mentioned "one" side in your list of hate groups. Why is that?
People who are against neo nazi's and klan are "hate groups" to YOU?, got it.

 

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The guy who drove the car into the crowd trumped anything else that occurred that day, and that falls squarely on the shoulders of the nazis. No mystery there.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 01:02 PM
Anyone who think what happened with these Nazis first marching through the streets with torches yelling Nazi slogans like something out of 1930s Germany and then showing up the next day with assault rifles, clubs, helmets, body armor, and shields was acceptable in 2017 should all be shipped to some other country. They came looking for trouble. These inbred animals and their twisted Nazi ideology have no place in a civilized society in the 21st century. We need to squash these scum bags before they regress out whole society back to when this country was an ugly place. We should be far past this kind of thing at this point in time. A national embarrassment led by our DOTUS, Dictator of the United States.

 

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  posted on 8/16/2017 at 01:05 PM
Theo, you just love you some Nazi Klan.

 

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Thx 68, you always cut to the heart of the matter. Bright side, at least these worms are out where intelligence can get nice fat files on them before they crawl back under their rocks.

 

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"It was a gathering of HATE GROUPS: Neo nazi, Klan, and other white supremacist scumbags. I guess YOU think thats just fine and dandy, like trump."

Pops, I agree with you until I noticed you only mentioned "one" side in your list of hate groups. Why is that?
People who are against neo nazi's and klan are "hate groups" to YOU?, got it.


So the other side, throwing bags of piss and excrement is OK?



We Fought the Nazi's once with far worse weapons. they should be happy that was all they got.

 

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Sure bet Heather would have been happier getting hit by a bag of piss.

 

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Theo, you just love you some Nazi Klan.
Fleao is just another dumb troll.

 
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